Hammerdrill
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PI is not an automatic first down, it is just a 15 yd penalty.
A lot of differences in pass interference.....
**No 5 yard rule for pass inteferance
**All plays are considered runs until a pass is thrown,
***A defensive player must avoid contact with a receiver who is no longer a potential blocker. So a
receiver is a potential blocker until there is a pass. A defender can contact an offensive receiver
until the ball is thrown.
***PI is only a penalty in the area the ball is thrown.
Truth. Look up the ruleSo i
So say the ball hasn’t been thrown yet and the defender decides to absolutely clobber the receiver during the route before the ball is thrown, this is not a penalty?
Truth. Look up the rule
Tough gig as you still cannot hold and If you don't while the ball is in the air it's PI. Very tough to do as a DBThe rule needs to be taught to corners in high school. A lot of kids are afraid to be physical with the receiver out of fear of penalty.
By rule the team in possession at the end of the down (Team R) gets to choose to replay the down or take the ball at the spot where the whistle was blown.Team A attempts a FG.
Team B blocks FG.
Team B possesses the ball and starts returning the ball for a TD. The IW was after Team B was returning the ball.
What should have been called?
The officials decided to do a redo. Team A decides to go for it (end of the first half) instead of trying another FG and scores a TD. So at the end of the day it was a 14 point turn around (assuming Team B makes their EP ) because no one was catching the guy returing the FG down the sideline.
Officials are taught to apply advantage/disadvantage on fouls like PI. Although an "uncatchable" ball is not part of the rule in HS (and should never be used in explaining a no-call to a coach), contact "obviously away from the direction of the pass" is the rulebook verbiage.No doubt however I have seen officials hold the flag instead of throwing it. It's not officiated consistently the same way.
Not really sure what you mean by this or how it would relate to PI.A lot of differences in pass interference.....
**No 5 yard rule for pass inteferance
**All plays are considered runs until a pass is thrown,
***A defensive player must avoid contact with a receiver who is no longer a potential blocker. So a
receiver is a potential blocker until there is a pass. A defender can contact an offensive receiver
until the ball is thrown.
***PI is only a penalty in the area the ball is thrown.
So i
So say the ball hasn’t been thrown yet and the defender decides to absolutely clobber the receiver during the route before the ball is thrown, this is not a penalty?
What that goes to is contact downfield by a defender. It isn't pass interference until the pass is thrown and each play is considered a run play until the ball is thrown. I got that verbiage from a referee site and I have heard that used as well.Not really sure what you mean by this or how it would relate to PI.
Exactly, easier said than done and if you whiff on a WR then he can more easily get right by you.At every level I have coach at, we taught "re-routing" the receivers. We had a LB at one college I coached at that would lay TE/WR out as he crossed the field inside. Opposing coaches always complained, but never was a penalty. He used a shoulder and never to the head. Completely legal at all levels except NFL. It always looks bad to fans, but legal. We had our corners do it in cover 2 as well. "funnel" to the inside aggressively. Easier said than done though against athletic WR, LOL. A TE not looking for the LB was much easier.
Team B has the options. They can choose to replay the down, or take the play where the IW occurred.Team A attempts a FG.
Team B blocks FG.
Team B possesses the ball and starts returning the ball for a TD. The IW was after Team B was returning the ball.
What should have been called?
The officials decided to do a redo. Team A decides to go for it (end of the first half) instead of trying another FG and scores a TD. So at the end of the day it was a 14 point turn around (assuming Team B makes their EP ) because no one was catching the guy returing the FG down the sideline.
Didn't happen that way. Team A decided to go for it instead of attempting another FG and scored a TD. 14 point turnaround in week 12/13 of the playoffs.Team B has the options. They can choose to replay the down, or take the play where the IW occurred.
I was thinking the same thing.They should print this list in the cover of the programs.
These are the best ones on the list.
- Headhunting is not football.
- Most "big hits" and athletic plays (i.e. runners hurdling defenders) that are sensationalized on accounts like Jukes are illegal.
Faceguarding was removed from the PI rules a couple years ago. There must be physical contact for PI.Two quick questions, is there a penalty for face guarding in high school football? I don’t believe there is but have heard otherwise. Also, if a team is running a screen (jail, solid) can the defense make contact with the receiver before the ball arrives?
Well old school 60's high school football defensive techniques included the practice of "chucking" the receiver at the line of scrimmage as the ball was snapped.So i
So say the ball hasn’t been thrown yet and the defender decides to absolutely clobber the receiver during the route before the ball is thrown, this is not a penalty?
We had that last year where it was very possible we score on an int in overtime against our rival. I didn know tat rule at the time and asked in the ask the ref forum but I agreeIn OHSAA overtime the ball is dead immediately when the defense gains possession
Doesn’t seem fair to prevent the defense from scoring!
So say the ball hasn’t been thrown yet and the defender decides to absolutely clobber the receiver during the route before the ball is thrown, this is not a penalty?
Truth. Look up the rule
Now, my frustrations with officials not knowing the High School Pass Interference penalties are well documented on Yappi. When I was coaching, Pass Interference Penalties were the bane of my existence.
To add upon what already has been mentioned it should also be noted that there is also no pass interference in the backfield. I used to teach my DBs to be very aggressive with passes that don't cross the neutral zone... little flairs to the RB, Zip Screen, Bubble Screen, etc. The forward pass must cross the neutral zone for there to be interference. We would get called for this probably 5 times per year, I used to have that page dog eared in my rule book on the sideline to show the officials. Only got it overturned once, most of the time, they would say something along the lines of "yes, we know the ball didn't progress past the neutral zone and the interference didn't occur past the neutral zone either, BUT you can't do what your player did." It was very frustrating to say the least to teach the game the right way and to then have your kids dejected because too many officials in my experience don't know all the nuances of the High School Pass Interference.
I agree wholeheartedly, but I see legal defensive contact regularly and the official incorrectly calls PI.I too share your frustrations with officials not knowing the PI rule. That said, it is important to know that contact with that receiver you refer to must be legal. The defender cannot, hold, block in the back (yes, defensive players actually by definition block opponents), clip, or illegally contact an otherwise defenseless opponent.
While the foul would not be for Pass Interference, you certainly could have a foul for the other illegal personal contact described above....
And ya'll think this job is easy
Are you still coaching? Send the clips in question to the league assigner or Beau Rugg/Bruce Maurer if you think the rules are being misapplied. Seriously.I agree wholeheartedly, but I see legal defensive contact regularly and the official incorrectly calls PI.
I also don't like it when the officials don't call a flag on PI because the ball was "uncatchable."
I don't see that as much anymore, but at least handful of times per year.