Future of the SWBL

BucksFan937

Active member
those are the only two Cincy-area schools I would consider, but doubt it happens.
I had heard from a decent source that Talawanda, Edgewood and Ross were a package deal. So I don't believe it's an option to just take on 2 of them. I was also told that this movement was already in motion for these 3 schools to join the SWBL. Doesn't mean it will happen, but the discussions are already taking place. As for Clinton Massie/Wilmington, it makes sense to me, but I'm not sure if it's realistically in the talks yet.
 

thehawg27

Well-known member
Madison has posted their head coaching job. What happened?
Young guy that was just in over his head. The unprecedented success Madison had the ('17-'18) was going to be really hard to duplicate or exceed for any coach, let alone a 20 something guy just getting started. I'm sure the job will get some interest this time around.
 

ghsknightsfan

Well-known member
Young guy that was just in over his head. The unprecedented success Madison had the ('17-'18) was going to be really hard to duplicate or exceed for any coach, let alone a 20 something guy just getting started. I'm sure the job will get some interest this time around.
they didn't have a bad season last year especially considering all the talent they had lost.
 

ghsknightsfan

Well-known member
I agree, and if you were to compare the typical Madison season from the past 15-20 years. They were right on target.
you're right. and they would usually beat waynesville, they just happened to be up this year. I don't think he was a bad coach by any means, actually pretty impressed when I saw them at a 7on7. he did have some pretty unreal expectations, yes, but I don't think he was completely in over his head, especially having Poff still on his staff.
 

thehawg27

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you're right. and they would usually beat waynesville, they just happened to be up this year. I don't think he was a bad coach by any means, actually pretty impressed when I saw them at a 7on7. he did have some pretty unreal expectations, yes, but I don't think he was completely in over his head, especially having Poff still on his staff.
The X/O part is rarely the tough part.

Dealing with parents, admin, youth program, etc. Is a whole different story and that is where I am hearing he was "in over his head".
 

BlessEmAll

Moderator
Madison records since 2005
2005: 5-5
2006: 1-9
2007: 4-6
2008: 5-5
2009: 3-7
2010: 4-6
2011: 4-6
2012: 4-6
2013: 5-5
2014: 5-5
2015: 7-3
2016: 7-3
2017: 8-2
2018: 10-0
2019: 5-5
4 winning seasons out of 15. It might be normal cycles hitting Madison and not coaching.
 
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BlessEmAll

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Milton records since 2005
2005: 8-2 SW division
2006: 9-1 SW division
2007: 9-1 SW division
2008: 3-7 SW division
2009: 6-4 SW division
2010: 4-6 Buckeye starting in 2010.
2011: 8-2
2012: 8-2
2013: 2-8
2014: 3-7
2015: 6-4
2016: 7-3
2017: 4-6
2018: 6-4
2019: 8-2
5 losing seasons in 15.
 
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Duluoz

Member
Madison records since 2005
2005: 5-5
2006: 1-9
2007: 4-6
2008: 5-5
2009: 3-7
2010: 4-6
2011: 4-6
2012: 4-6
2013: 5-5
2014: 7-3
2015: 7-3
2016: 7-3
2017: 8-2
2018: 10-0
2019: 5-5
5 winning seasons out of 15. It might be normal cycles hitting Madison and not coaching.
Madison was actually 5-5 in 2014, so 4 winning seasons in 15 years. In the 30 years before 2015, Madison only had 5 winning seasons in the last 30 years. Steve Poff is the winningest coach in Madison history coaching for 5 years.
 

BlessEmAll

Moderator
He was a great coach. Milton has benefitted from really great coaching. Pearce and Lane have done a great job since 2000. Prior to that we didn’t have good coaching after Magoteaux left in 1984-85. The 90s were a disaster with Christello and Engle. Sergent wasn’t given enough time (2-years).It only took Pearce 3 seasons and he was in the playoffs.
 
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Duluoz

Member
You have to have the players, but great coaches can make good players great. They understand what it takes to win, and that is a myriad of things- not just x's and o's. Pearce is obviously a great coach. Poff knows every aspect of football-and he got that way by studying and watching others.
 

BlessEmAll

Moderator
I’d love to see Madison get a long-term coach like Poff. The community supports well there.
Carlisle and Waynesville have had coaching issues. Waynesville has a great young coach now.
 

ghsknightsfan

Well-known member
I’d love to see Madison get a long-term coach like Poff. The community supports well there.
Carlisle and Waynesville have had coaching issues. Waynesville has a great young coach now.
actually heard that if waynesville's coach didn't have a solid year this year, he was out. I heard this from a fan at the Greenon-Waynesville scrimmage back in August. but he ended up having a terrific year- albeit one head scratching loss to Greeneview.
 
Is the SWBL going to reach out to other schools about adding to the conference to help with realignment or do schools have to apply to them. If so I hope they reach out to Massie or Massie applies. I have watched this league Massie is in right now and it hasn’t been good. We left this same conference once and now we are back. It’s just as bad if not worse. SWBL would raise the level of play from the word go.
 
Is the SWBL going to reach out to other schools about adding to the conference to help with realignment or do schools have to apply to them. If so I hope they reach out to Massie or Massie applies. I have watched this league Massie is in right now and it hasn’t been good. We left this same conference once and now we are back. It’s just as bad if not worse. SWBL would raise the level of play from the word go.
Would Massie come if Wilmington wasn't interested?
 

503-Smalley

New member
Great news for Madison in my opinion. I would love to see Hubbard in Blue again some day. Hopefully New Miami can replace him with someone that can fill his shoes. Good Luck Jess
 

BlessEmAll

Moderator
Enrollment will be an issue for Carlisle and Waynesville. Brookville, Oakwood and Eaton won’t be affected by the larger schools. CM, Washington, Edgewood and Talawanda would be great additions. Madison is growing.
 
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