Bennies'01
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And for future reference, n/h = no .
Yeah I knew that one.
And for future reference, n/h = no .
Big surprise joe failed to support his statement that MLB is going into the abyss.
Of course it could. I don't mean to argue that MLB is in better shape than the NFL......simply that a salary cap isn't necessarily the cure-all. MLB owners clearly have the money.
No, only a select few do.
Ultimately, my point was that Bud Selig sucks as a commisioner and his refusal to adapt has done a great job at alienating the casual baseball fan. That is what is sending MLB into the "abyss", since you are so fascinated with that statement. I don't think anyone would argue that baseball has undoubtedly lost popularity under Selig. The fact that teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Cubs, ect. continue to make money does not surprise me. They always will. Anyone who thinks Bud has done a good job as a commish is an idiot IMO.
I wish I had your time to debate this topic and other ridiculous nonesense to no end everyday, but fortunately I have a life.
Nonsense. The Reds just gave Joey Votto 250 million and they're about to give Brandon Phillips 65 million. These guys are making a ton of money.
A good job is debatable......but he certainly hasn't ruined the sport as you seem to believe. Besides not forcing a salary cap on the players union (which is not possible and could not be done by anyone), you have yet to name one thing he's done to the detriment to the sport.
I don't even like the man.
When you have a league where one team's cap is 201 million(Yankees) and another team is 36 million(Royals) something is wrong.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/salaries
It's obvious the only reason you are debating this was because the Reds were somehow able to pull a rabbit out of their with the Votto signing. We still have not seen exactly how that is going to effect their cap in future years.
1. Refusal to change the playoff system for years. Even after finally changing it, I still think it is dumb. This made an already long season drag on forever for most teams who had nothing to play for.
2. Turning a blind eye to steroids and permanently tainting the record books forever. There is no other sport that cherishes its statistical heroes like baseball and the Selig/Steroid Era has ruined that.
Ultimately, my point was that Bud Selig sucks as a commisioner and his refusal to adapt has done a great job at alienating the casual baseball fan. That is what is sending MLB into the "abyss", since you are so fascinated with that statement. I don't think anyone would argue that baseball has undoubtedly lost popularity under Selig. The fact that teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Cubs, ect. continue to make money does not surprise me. They always will. Anyone who thinks Bud has done a good job as a commish is an idiot IMO.
I wish I had your time to debate this topic and other ridiculous nonesense to no end everyday, but fortunately I have a life.
It took about 10 mins, no biggie. Baseball appears to be on very solid footing financially, certainly better than the nba and hardly sliding into the abyss. Sorry joe. :shrug:
This discussion has become too serious and posts are becoming TLTR
Do you really think the Royals only spend $36 million because they can't spend more?
The Royals could spend another $28.5 million before going into the red. That still puts them at less than a third of the Yankees' payroll. If I recall, only two teams were in the red last year, and I think most netted around $10-15 million, so it's probably not even realistic to expect teams like the Royals to eat through every last penny of their profit.
There should be post ratings, too.
Joe doesn't like the playoff system and the Royals only spend $36 million on their major-league roster, so Bud Selig has obviously ruined baseball.
You conveniently left out steroids, which is by far the most glaring aspect of the Selig era.
That was a terrible mistake shared by the entire baseball community, but the lion's share should go to Selig. I will say baseball gets more heat than any other league in this matter, though. You just don't hear about the roid-head from the Texans anymore because nobody really cares if NFL players juice.
On the other hand, baseball now has the best testing and punishment policy in the U.S. among professional sports. It doesn't quite make up for McGwire and Bonds farking Roger Maris and Hank Aaron out of records, but it's a start.
I'm still looking for the abyss.
It took about 10 mins, no biggie. Baseball appears to be on very solid footing financially, certainly better than the nba and hardly sliding into the abyss. Sorry joe. :shrug:
No, actually, I covered that a few posts up.
I saw that. That is why I said they do not get credit for implementing the policy after the fact.
Why not? It's working now.
What damage is that?
Baseball has survived everything its faced and emerged prosperous.
But if you don't like it, leave it be. Go pay attention to all the roids heads in the NFL getting arrested all offseason or the thugs in Stern's NBA trying the get their coaches fired.