I agree. But to Tipp's credit, they need to be in the GWOC if they want playoff success in DIII. With Trotwood being DIII as well, it makes a very tough road for them. I bet Tipp is hoping for Trotwood to go to DII here soon. LOL!Is the talent at Tipp drying up or are they being haunted by the conference move? I tend to lean towards the latter - they got too big for their britches. A winning tradition goes a long ways in high school sports. You start being mediocre and kids start losing interest. I have seen plenty of "mediocre" local teams have great seasons and make the playoffs, simply because they know how to win. I have also seen several local programs who were down turn the corner when an energetic coach is brought in and ignites a winning tradition. Success breeds success.