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Massillon#82

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And yet you come to a McKinley basketball thread. 🤔 Why? In fact why to you come to the basketball section at all on Yappi? There's not one thread for Massillon at all? Why is that?
Right because AS USUAL you and your gf’s just can’t help yourselves.
 

pcbuck

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Right because AS USUAL you and your gf’s just can’t help yourselves.
Clearly looks like someone needs to look up the definition of "constantly".
You've posted as many times as I have in this thread.
Not sure why you would post here since McKinley has dominated your Tigers in basketball winning 139 games with only 48 losses.
They've also won the last 7 in a row.

And yet you come to a McKinley basketball thread. 🤔 Why? In fact why to you come to the basketball section at all on Yappi? There's not one thread for Massillon at all? Why is that?
I'm thinking about starting a thread in this forum called "Division 1 teams who haven't beaten a Division 1 team with a winning record".
Massillon posters could post all about their team there.
 

BlueDevil2022

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I'm glad I could clarify my obvious hyperbole even more for you.

Not awful. But nothing special. McKinley, the City of Canton, and Stark Athletics loses A LOT of it's uniqueness and pride when McKinley is nothing but middling to fair. To ME, a long drought from the final four isn't awful. But not even being in the conversation is.

I disagree on your contention that no one else draws better. McKinley crowds are AWFUL for a Fed Team - for Tuslaw - for any random team in Ohio. So you're right, McKinley isn't special like Massillon anymore. And while the 7 or 8 of you who sit around patting each other on the back at booster meetings pretending there isn't a problem because the coaches and district folks have convinced you this mediocrity is unavoidable, and its just "the new norm" - as opposed to taking a hard look at the SOLVABLE problems that have caused this erosion, then yes, you're going to get a not-elite, run of the mill Fed team that's somewhat better than Timken going forward.
um its high school kid stuff, not professional sport clubs

the City of Canton School District has more important things to worry about than its sports teams.

how long of a drought in "final four" appearances in basketball, is Massillon in?

the answer is 77 years: the last SF Massillon appearance: 1945 under Elwood Kammer losing to Bellevue 47-44 Massillon has never won a "final four" game in basketball.


How long is the drought in tournament championships in any sport for Massillon?

The entire history of all tournaments in all sports.

so STFU.
 

RogueStarkGuy

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um its high school kid stuff, not professional sport clubs
So why are you posting about high school kid stuff? Head back to the politics forum where you clearly are changing the world with your wisdom.
the City of Canton School District has more important things to worry about than its sports teams.
And if this were a forum about teaching and learning, I guess I'd comment about that. As it is, this is a board dedicated to "high school kid stuff." I really think you've lost the plot. Take a look at the other forum topics and re-evaluate.
how long of a drought in "final four" appearances in basketball, is Massillon in?

the answer is 77 years: the last SF Massillon appearance: 1945 under Elwood Kammer losing to Bellevue 47-44 Massillon has never won a "final four" game in basketball.


How long is the drought in tournament championships in any sport for Massillon?

The entire history of all tournaments in all sports.
You struggle staying on topic. What's Massillon have to do with anything in the post of mine you quoted? Is it the "McKinley's not special like Massillon" comment. Sorry. Massillon isn't that special either (except for their booster club. Those guys are killing it). Happy?
I hear modern pharmaceuticals are incredible. Have you heard about benzos?
 

CantonKid

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Canton McKinley plays on the road against Wadsworth tomorrow(Tuesday) There 9-5 against a decent/good schedule. Then they play on the road (Friday) against Green. Yikes
 

CantonKid

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It's now a 3-way tie for first place between GlenOak, Jackson and Green. All 3 teams are 7-3 in league play. McKinley is one game back at 6-4.

REMAINING GAMES

GlenOak: (Friday) Away vs Lake, (Feb 10) Home vs Green
Jackson: (Friday) Away vs Perry, (Feb 10) Away vs McKinley
Green: (Friday) Home vs McKinley, (Feb 10)Away vs GlenOak
McKinley: (Friday) Away vs Green, (Feb 10) Home vs Jackson

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zmanohio

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In regard to whether Coach Andy V stays or goes...he needs to clean his act up.
His record is currently 89-41 not great but not bad. His demeanor to his players and coaching staff has been questionable to say the least. Good to great young players leave or go to another school.
Clean that up and McKinley has a pretty goid coach.
 

McK93

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In regard to whether Coach Andy V stays or goes...he needs to clean his act up.
His record is currently 89-41 not great but not bad. His demeanor to his players and coaching staff has been questionable to say the least. Good to great young players leave or go to another school.
Clean that up and McKinley has a pretty goid coach.
He yelled at your kid, didn't he? Here's a fact it doesn't matter who coaches McKinley, the "fans" will want him fired..
 

Caleb

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In regard to whether Coach Andy V stays or goes...he needs to clean his act up.
His record is currently 89-41 not great but not bad. His demeanor to his players and coaching staff has been questionable to say the least. Good to great young players leave or go to another school.
Clean that up and McKinley has a pretty goid coach.
Bingo. We had that conversation on this site two years ago and yet here we still are.
 

djcoach

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DJcoach where are you? Can you shed some light on whats going on with the basketball team? I know you always said you were around the basketball team a lot.
I unfortunately have moved out of state to Greener (or Browner) pastures of Arizona. I coached at McKinley before I moved. I used to get alot of texts from the coaches and players. Seems i am out of sight out of mind which I kind of expected.

Had alot of high hopes for this group. Extremely talented and felt they could make a sneaky run at district title IMO.

I can say this being with Coach V for numerous years at Harding and then McKinley and then listening to parents, so-called fans who would sit in the Fieldhouse in Summer and watch the kids practice. There are a ton of accusations thrown around and I for one never once saw them to be true. Was he hard on kids, Yes, Did he yell alot to get his point across, Yes. But does he care genuinely for those kids, 100%

he is honest with parents and kids alike, that is his character. He is loyal and trustworthy and is a straight shooter.

Did I sit in that office as parent after parent come in and tell coaches like V and Chet what their kids deserved and whose team in should be and who the offense should be run through etc. Did he have to sit through those meetings. Yep cause thats how we were told business is done in Canton.

Did i have a parent yell at me cause his kid got yanked in a game we lost and in front of the kid. Did that kid tell his father story after story but when confronted about the truth had to admit he lied to his father cause coach was hard on him and he didnt like it. Happened 4 times to my recollection in two months 4 different kids.

So when i sit on here and people aren't happy I will say this. multiple kids left the system cause they weren't given the keys the kingdom, you get a coach that will placate every talented kid over the program as a whole you reap what you sow. The expectations will never go down and thats great but I hate that people act like the cupboard is over flowing with talent. It just isn't and when people get those expectations dialed in then the program will go on the upswing.

He was an outsider in Warren and constantly criticized but won in spite of alot, he has been criticized since day one here also and has won his fair share also. I think he will be fine but then again I am sure more people want him gone than want him to stay
 

Mck

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I unfortunately have moved out of state to Greener (or Browner) pastures of Arizona. I coached at McKinley before I moved. I used to get alot of texts from the coaches and players. Seems i am out of sight out of mind which I kind of expected.

Had alot of high hopes for this group. Extremely talented and felt they could make a sneaky run at district title IMO.

I can say this being with Coach V for numerous years at Harding and then McKinley and then listening to parents, so-called fans who would sit in the Fieldhouse in Summer and watch the kids practice. There are a ton of accusations thrown around and I for one never once saw them to be true. Was he hard on kids, Yes, Did he yell alot to get his point across, Yes. But does he care genuinely for those kids, 100%

he is honest with parents and kids alike, that is his character. He is loyal and trustworthy and is a straight shooter.

Did I sit in that office as parent after parent come in and tell coaches like V and Chet what their kids deserved and whose team in should be and who the offense should be run through etc. Did he have to sit through those meetings. Yep cause thats how we were told business is done in Canton.

Did i have a parent yell at me cause his kid got yanked in a game we lost and in front of the kid. Did that kid tell his father story after story but when confronted about the truth had to admit he lied to his father cause coach was hard on him and he didnt like it. Happened 4 times to my recollection in two months 4 different kids.

So when i sit on here and people aren't happy I will say this. multiple kids left the system cause they weren't given the keys the kingdom, you get a coach that will placate every talented kid over the program as a whole you reap what you sow. The expectations will never go down and thats great but I hate that people act like the cupboard is over flowing with talent. It just isn't and when people get those expectations dialed in then the program will go on the upswing.

He was an outsider in Warren and constantly criticized but won in spite of alot, he has been criticized since day one here also and has won his fair share also. I think he will be fine but then again I am sure more people want him gone than want him to stay
Do you think coach V will resign or do you think he will be fired?
 

djcoach

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Do you think coach V will resign or do you think he will be fired?
He won't resign he truly loves coaching at McKinley. I just don't think the fans understand how much of pains in the... they really are.

He will be fired before he resigns. Do I think they will fire him? No I don't not yet. The administration knows what he has to deal with. Thats why the ramblings on the message board don't really matter at all in the grand scheme. If what people complained about were really true the administration would have axed him two years ago. They know what the parents and fans were complaining about and it was alot of self interest.

The funny thing is for years i have been saying come to me with proof of what you hear or if a kid is being unfairly punished from people on here telling me what they believe. Anyone who has talked to me in person or pm knows i can back up what i am saying with proof because i was there and they were not. People just hope for more and don't want to hear the truth about skill levels, accountability for their work ethic etc
 

djcoach

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I am going to ask a question of Mckinley faithful and would like a honest pm response or they can do it here I will explain after i get some responses.

Kobe Johnson's senior year if you were the coach who would you have run the offense through? I will tell you exactly why in a pm if you want to know why I ask that. I had to delete alot of my thoughts there
 

Mck

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He won't resign he truly loves coaching at McKinley. I just don't think the fans understand how much of pains in the... they really are.

He will be fired before he resigns. Do I think they will fire him? No I don't not yet. The administration knows what he has to deal with. Thats why the ramblings on the message board don't really matter at all in the grand scheme. If what people complained about were really true the administration would have axed him two years ago. They know what the parents and fans were complaining about and it was alot of self interest.

The funny thing is for years i have been saying come to me with proof of what you hear or if a kid is being unfairly punished from people on here telling me what they believe. Anyone who has talked to me in person or pm knows i can back up what i am saying with proof because i was there and they were not. People just hope for more and don't want to hear the truth about skill levels, accountability for their work ethic etc
Earlier you said there was a lot of talent there, so what happened. Why was this such a losing season. I think this may have been the worst or one of the worst seasons on record. Historical low.
 

Mck

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Earlier you said there was a lot of talent there, so what happened. Why was this such a losing season. I think this may have been the worst or one of the worst seasons on record. Historical low.
Some people feel that Sean Weatherspoon will be the next coach. What do u think?
 
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