I’m specifically speaking about region 12, but you knew that...your arrogant tone is annoying.
Butler was a 4 seed and went 6-4, show me their quality wins? They probably should have lost to Xenia and Piqua too. Piqua was down big at half and just couldn’t complete the comeback. Xenia shot themselves in the foot. That’s neither here nor there really though, all teams have those games they “could have lost” or visa versa. This region is loaded with teams that only beat 2 or 3 teams with winning records and some are 6-4 ��. I would say there are 3 legit teams in this region. Trotwood and Alter without a doubt, CJ would have been but they had to sit the stud QB after 5 for the transfer, and Wapak. The rest are paper champs.
Satisfied?
Troy, Tipp, Butler, Piqua in that order then everyone else.
Troy is the team to beat until proven otherwise, Tipp has proven that it can beat Butler even if they aren’t as talented. And Tipp will be much improved from last year. Butler loses a lot but will still be competitive. Piqua lost a lot as well but they always seem to be competitive. Troy loses probably more than anyone, but I expect them to still be good.
Coulda...woulda...shoulda. By that logic had they not lost to Troy, Northmont and Harrison they would have been 10-0. Clown take bro. I love when people say a team “should have lost”, well they didn’t. They overachieved, generated excitement in the community and are building a program. I don’t blame you though I wouldn’t like it either. Bout to be a bad decade for the haters.
I believe I read that he is walking onto Eastern Michigan.
If you think Tipp finishes that high in this league, I want what you are smoking.
Why is that not a believable finish?
Tipp was obviously down last year, even having some sophomores starting. Yet, they still only had 2 games last year out of reach (Northmont, Troy). Sidney was a close loss, and Tipp absolutely botched the end of the Piqua game and lost by 1. They even beat Butler, who overachieved last season and made the playoffs.
Tipp could finish anywhere from 2nd to 6th next year. Obviously the coaching hire will have a big factor in that, but I definitely wouldn't count them out as a contender yet.
I think people are sleeping on Sidney. They're going to have a ton of athletes/skilled players back. They're going to have to figure out the QB position and how to minimize the turnovers, but if they can do that they're gonna score points. We'll see if they can continue to improve the defense that dropped 11 points/game given up from 2017 to 2018.
People are going to continue to sleep on Sidney until that staff wakes up! They do too many silly things on offense trying to be “creative”. They did make some nice strides on defense like you said. In 2017, they were a complete tire fire! Did they hire new defensive coaches in 18’ or meet with other staffs to straighten them out? They always have athletes at Sidney, knowing what to do with those athletes is what matters. I think they have a good chance at being 4th or 5th in the conference next year. I could see Doenges trying to slide over to that Versailles job. Have you heard if he plans on staying in Sidney much longer?
You must not have read my whole post I said that’s neither here nor there. Nobody is playing the “if they caught this ball” or “if my son played qb”, however, I was using their top wins against them! Did you notice that?
Those were two of their top wins and they almost blew it. �� hmm But obviously you’re too blindfolded to realize how those wins look to people actually evaluating Butlers season. They’ve created real buzz which is nice for school that just had Hyatt. Puckett is an actual coach that can compete with the staffs of Troy/Piqua, but let’s not get too excited.
I can’t beleive you just said it’s going to be a bad decade for the haters. You’re a clown for that comment man. Haha I can’t even argue with that corny stuff.
Point is given the athletes in the community, top notch facilities, and now actual coaches there is no reason why Butler shouldn't be in the conversation every single year. Again the excitement was seeing the buy in from the kids in Puckett's first season. He has his work cut out for him because senior and junior numbers are low. Not putting that all on Hyatt but the culture or lack thereof significantly hurt the program. Puckett now has to role with arguably the youngest team in the MVL in 2019 so it will be tough. BUT....I see no reason why this team cannot and will not be a tough out for many years to come beginning in 2020. My haters comment is to those that still think Butler is the rollover, easy win that they had been for nearly a decade. MVL teams are going to have to bring it....on the flipside Butler will have to as well. Like I said in an earlier post the MVL will have more parity than the GWOC did.
I am excited to see this league while I view the overall quality of the league in football and basketball as subpar. Great baseball league!
Troy
Xenia
Piqua
Butler
Tipp
Sidney
Fairborn
Greenville
West Carrollton
Stebbins
I hope people are not overlooking Xenia. Winning last year as well as beating Trotwood. Those boys started to buy into what Coach Smitherman was selling. I think with the triple in this league they will be very dangerous. None of these teams except Troy have been close to the caliber of Trotwood. 3-8 are toss ups. The only for sure is that Stebbins and the Pirates will be at the bottom.
Why is that not a believable finish?
Tipp was obviously down last year, even having some sophomores starting. Yet, they still only had 2 games last year out of reach (Northmont, Troy). Sidney was a close loss, and Tipp absolutely botched the end of the Piqua game and lost by 1. They even beat Butler, who overachieved last season and made the playoffs.
Tipp could finish anywhere from 2nd to 6th next year. Obviously the coaching hire will have a big factor in that, but I definitely wouldn't count them out as a contender yet.
I think with the departure of the burgbachers the conference gets interesting. Obliviously Troy is still the favorite but tipp could shake things up next year.
We could be back to the GMVC days when we have a 10-0 team and not make the playoffs. Especially if the bottom feeders stay the way they are already.
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We could be back to the GMVC days when we have a 10-0 team and not make the playoffs. Especially if the bottom feeders stay the way they are already.
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I think the saving grace for Butler will be the fact that they are DIII. The days of 6-4 and making the playoffs are long gone, but honestly those teams really don't have a legit shot of making much postseason noise anyways.
7-3 will likely get it done in most years. The difference now would be seeding. In the GWOC North a 7-3 DIII is hosting a playoff game, but that may not be the case going forward.
The moral of the story is if Butler truly has a "playoff caliber" team, they will be in. Bubble teams will likely stay home and rightfully so. The DII teams on the other hand will have to be damn near perfect.
Butler is 4 boys away from being DII so they are likely to fluctuate Divisions on a yearly basis. I think your assessment is correct. If Butler does get bumped up to DII 8-2 may not get you in unless you beat a really good team week 1 non-conference game.
Butler is 4 boys away from being DII so they are likely to fluctuate Divisions on a yearly basis. I think your assessment is correct. If Butler does get bumped up to DII 8-2 may not get you in unless you beat a really good team week 1 non-conference game.
That’s right scheduling is crucial. Some years Vandalia was already behind the 8 ball having to play Northmont and Perry. Those are two teams that a school the size of Vandalia isn’t going to beat and you’re down two games that are crucial. Vandalia and Piqua have to be smart about who that open week is against each year. Cannot be a team that you will lose to. A win is always worth more than a loss. I’d like to see Vandalia pick up Oakwood or another SWBL team for week 1 each year.
Bradford might be available