2015 Moeller Frosh Football

CometsRule said:
I wouldn't say a 26-21 win was dominate..my buddy who has a son on the team said that they almost lost. As much as I liked watching RJ in middle school, he is not ready for any varsity action. Didn't he fumble 3 times Saturday? Also, the same buddy says that the defense is slow and soft. You must not have known that Louisville St X was missing their starting QB and RB like the rest of the Moe parents. He also said it's the first game that a safety has made a play. From the players I've watched in the past I would say the 3 "daddy" coaches might want to start playing the actual athletes that will be playing the next few years or Moe might continue to look like they did against Bosco Friday night. Oh yeah, maybe you oughta tell the daddy's on the sideline that it's embarrassing to the other players that one of their son's forgets his cleats and still plays with his circus colored basketball shoes...my buddy said the St X parents had a good laugh with that. What does it tell the other kids and parents of the Big Moe program? All I can say is you better hope you keep winning these freshman games or the wheels might come rolling off!
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A lot of critiques over one post. Me personally, I do not see anything extremely wrong with this post except maybe asking about the fumbles. He states his opinion on facts. The original poster did mention this kid by name, so it does open the door to opinions. Sometimes the truth hurts.

As an Moe player or parent I would be embarrassed to the fact of one of the dads coaching letting his son play after he forgot his cleats. Isn't learning responsibilities a part of becoming a Man of Moeller? Also, as a coach you earn respect by not having double standards. I'm sure this brings on more questioning about playing time, positions played, etc...It's an argument the coach can not win now.

I do think it's hilarious that the same poster (fhsknockout1) would come back with #StateChampions2019. This guy has more issues then CometsRule. I just hope he hasn't started screen printing the shirts yet.

We always seem to forget that we are on a forum and it is a place of freedom of speech. Some people can handle it and some can not. Let's please remember that we are talking about 14 and 15 year old boys. No one is signing a NFL contract tomorrow :grouphug:
 
I can't even find anywhere stating who's on the freshman coaching staff, let alone have any idea what y'all are talking about?

This team is undefeated and start GCL play this week...we'll see how good they are starting right now.

Also, whats really important is how these guys continue to grow throughout HS.
 
Ray Ray the DJ said:
A lot of critiques over one post. Me personally, I do not see anything extremely wrong with this post except maybe asking about the fumbles. He states his opinion on facts. The original poster did mention this kid by name, so it does open the door to opinions. Sometimes the truth hurts.

As an Moe player or parent I would be embarrassed to the fact of one of the dads coaching letting his son play after he forgot his cleats. Isn't learning responsibilities a part of becoming a Man of Moeller? Also, as a coach you earn respect by not having double standards. I'm sure this brings on more questioning about playing time, positions played, etc...It's an argument the coach can not win now.

I do think it's hilarious that the same poster (fhsknockout1) would come back with #StateChampions2019. This guy has more issues then CometsRule. I just hope he hasn't started screen printing the shirts yet.



We always seem to forget that we are on a forum and it is a place of freedom of speech. Some people can handle it and some can not. Let's please remember that we are talking about 14 and 15 year old boys. No one is signing a NFL contract tomorrow :grouphug:
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It was a troll with an agenda and a nasty first post- no TRUTH to be seen there. An yea, we are talking about 14-15 year old boys so talking about them in a negative way that has ZERO to do with the actual game is below the belt. One of the things that really bothers me (and I have addressed on several other threads) is when posters think that because a KID is the coaches son it is open season on them- not about their actual play, but personal, low-class attacks. People can post whatever they want, but to call out kids in a nasty way makes that person a loser- it isn't about being able to "handle" anything. You want to talk about fumbles on yappi? fine. You want to talk about playing time on yappi? sounds like a solid plan- coaches often form their game plans based on anonymous chatter on here.
 
I just want to say that I started this "Moeller 2015 Frosh Football" posting because I thought it would be a fun way to share the experiences of this team and these kids in a positive manner. If you look back at any of my posts they are positive in nature and I attempt to spread the love by highlighting different players and their achievements.

It has been a positive thread until CometsRule decided to bash the whole team but let's not allow one very unhappy and negative person to ruin what's been a great thing so far. I ask that you ignore his negativity and not respond to his bashing of 14 & 15yr old kids, lets continue to support OUR TEAM and the BOYS in all that they achieve this year. #GoBigMoe #BeatX
 
fhsknockout1 said:
I just want to say that I started this "Moeller 2015 Frosh Football" posting because I thought it would be a fun way to share the experiences of this team and these kids in a positive manner. If you look back at any of my posts they are positive in nature and I attempt to spread the love by highlighting different players and their achievements.

It has been a positive thread until CometsRule decided to bash the whole team but let's not allow one very unhappy and negative person to ruin what's been a great thing so far. I ask that you ignore his negativity and not respond to his bashing of 14 & 15yr old kids, lets continue to support OUR TEAM and the BOYS in all that they achieve this year. #GoBigMoe #BeatX
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At the risk of sounding as if I am defending CometsRule I will say that "trolls" can liven up a board and lead to some stimulating exchanges. At some point however trolls can go too far with their negative, nasty comments. I am not sure that CometsRule is criticizing individual players as much as he is the coaches and program and as such Im not sure he has gone too far.

Moellers success in the big three sports draws lots of attention and critics. You don't see trolls on the Mason board or those of less successful programs. CometsRule comments are driven in large part I would guess, by jealously of the Moeller program. I am sure he will be quick to deny that, but if not then why spend so much time on the Moeller board.

Keep up your posts on the progress of the Moeller freshmen and the positive tone of the discussion and laugh off the unproven claims of CometsRule
 
fhsknockout1 said:
I just want to say that I started this "Moeller 2015 Frosh Football" posting because I thought it would be a fun way to share the experiences of this team and these kids in a positive manner. If you look back at any of my posts they are positive in nature and I attempt to spread the love by highlighting different players and their achievements.

It has been a positive thread until CometsRule decided to bash the whole team but let's not allow one very unhappy and negative person to ruin what's been a great thing so far. I ask that you ignore his negativity and not respond to his bashing of 14 & 15yr old kids, lets continue to support OUR TEAM and the BOYS in all that they achieve this year. #GoBigMoe #BeatX
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Thank for your updates on the Frosh team. All good stuff. However, as a Moe fan, the worst thing that can happen is fans predicting state titles, much less from a class that is 2 years away from taking the field on the varsity level. All it does is raise, usually, unrealistic expectations. The great thing about the 2013-14 state championship teams is that they weren't expected to take home the trophy and got hot at the right time. Moeller is better as the underdog (like this friday). Let this group fly under the radar...
 
Rabbit said:
Thank for your updates on the Frosh team. All good stuff. However, as a Moe fan, the worst thing that can happen is fans predicting state titles, much less from a class that is 2 years away from taking the field on the varsity level. All it does is raise, usually, unrealistic expectations. The great thing about the 2013-14 state championship teams is that they weren't expected to take home the trophy and got hot at the right time. Moeller is better as the underdog (like this friday). Let this group fly under the radar...
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Couldn't agree more. The reality is, every single year Moeller's Freshman football team is dominant (except for last season). Winning a state championship is extremely difficult, and has nothing to do with how successful your team was as Freshmen. It has everything to do with players putting the time in to improve themselves day after day in the weight room/conditioning and then out on the field.

Also, I heard our Freshmen lost to St. X's Freshmen 9-7 last night?? Maybe we should wait until they play the difficult portion of their schedule before anointing them future State Champions. Hopefully this was a reality check for the Freshmen team and they no longer buy into their own hype seemingly created by some of their parents.
 
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By the way, this is the same St. Xavier Freshmen team that only beat Colerain Frosh by 1 point, they only beat Kettering Alter frosh by 4 points, and they only beat Indianapolis Cathedral frosh by 1 point. So it's not like they're a dominant group that's been blowing teams out. Clearly there are other Freshmen teams in the area with a lot of talent, just like our group. Let's chill with the hype and see how these kids respond to the tough loss.
 
cincyfootball7 said:
By the way, this is the same St. Xavier Freshmen team that only beat Colerain Frosh by 1 point, they only beat Kettering Alter frosh by 4 points, and they only beat Indianapolis Cathedral frosh by 1 point. So it's not like they're a dominant group that's been blowing teams out. Clearly there are other Freshmen teams in the area with a lot of talent, just like our group. Let's chill with the hype and see how these kids respond to the tough loss.
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I think most GCL fans would agree you have to throw out the records when GCL teams meet. It is also important to note that freshman results are not particularly good indicators of what will happen at the varsity level. I believe the current seniors at St. X beat Moeller as freshmen and have not won since that time (until Friday of course).

Unbridled optimism is rampant among freshmen parents who have not been through a high school season. Everyone thinks their kids and teams are destined for greatness. There is nothing wrong with that attitude as long as it doesnt result in undue pressure or criticism of 14-17 year old young men.

I am sure the Moeller freshmen will bounce back from this tough loss.
 
What a frustrating finish to the Moeller vs St X game which St X won 9-7 on a safety with less than 30sec left in the game. Moeller's defense played a great game and I wish I knew some of the boys on the D-line because they had an outstanding game. St. X could not run the ball at all! Offensively, Moeller struggled, besides one long run for a TD by the RB we could not sustain a drive. We had a great opportunity to score right before the half but the pass was dropped in the end zone.
Just my opinion but if we played them 10 times I think we would win 8 of them. Oh well they have bragging rights and they earned it! Hopefully our buys will come back and get a win next Saturday vs LaSalle!! #GoBigMoe
 
fhsknockout1 said:
What a frustrating finish to the Moeller vs St X game which St X won 9-7 on a safety with less than 30sec left in the game. Moeller's defense played a great game and I wish I knew some of the boys on the D-line because they had an outstanding game. St. X could not run the ball at all! Offensively, Moeller struggled, besides one long run for a TD by the RB we could not sustain a drive. We had a great opportunity to score right before the half but the pass was dropped in the end zone.
Just my opinion but if we played them 10 times I think we would win 8 of them. Oh well they have bragging rights and they earned it! Hopefully our buys will come back and get a win next Saturday vs LaSalle!! #GoBigMoe
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Do frosh games have OverTime? I heard Moe out gained X by a wide margin and handed them their points?
 
fhsknockout1 said:
What a frustrating finish to the Moeller vs St X game which St X won 9-7 on a safety with less than 30sec left in the game. Moeller's defense played a great game and I wish I knew some of the boys on the D-line because they had an outstanding game. St. X could not run the ball at all! Offensively, Moeller struggled, besides one long run for a TD by the RB we could not sustain a drive. We had a great opportunity to score right before the half but the pass was dropped in the end zone.
Just my opinion but if we played them 10 times I think we would win 8 of them. Oh well they have bragging rights and they earned it! Hopefully our buys will come back and get a win next Saturday vs LaSalle!! #GoBigMoe
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Its interesting that you state Moeller D played a great game, but when Moeller was on offense they simply couldn't sustain a drive. Prior to this game based upon looking at St X freshmen record they were averaging 15.5 points a game while Moeller offense was averaging about 36 point a game and never scored less than 26. Given those figures it appears that the St X defense was definitely the more dominant given that they held the Moeller offense to about 30 points below their average, while Moeller held St X to about 8 below their average.

I did not see the game and realize that anything can happen in one game, but from how dominant the X defense was, and listening to the account of some people who were at the game it seems to me that in 10 games the teams might go 5-5

So what exactly would change in the next 9 games to have Moeller win 8 of those games?
 
fhsknockout1 said:
What a frustrating finish to the Moeller vs St X game which St X won 9-7 on a safety with less than 30sec left in the game. Moeller's defense played a great game and I wish I knew some of the boys on the D-line because they had an outstanding game. St. X could not run the ball at all! Offensively, Moeller struggled, besides one long run for a TD by the RB we could not sustain a drive. We had a great opportunity to score right before the half but the pass was dropped in the end zone.
Just my opinion but if we played them 10 times I think we would win 8 of them. Oh well they have bragging rights and they earned it! Hopefully our buys will come back and get a win next Saturday vs LaSalle!! #GoBigMoe
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God, Moeller fans are dumb. :laugh:
 
Awful quite in this thread ever since the undefeated season came to a crashing halt.

Did the Moeller frosh beat LaSalle? How did they look? Any chance any of the freshmen will be moved up to varsity next year?
 
GCLFan99 said:
Awful quite in this thread ever since the undefeated season came to a crashing halt.

Did the Moeller frosh beat LaSalle? How did they look? Any chance any of the freshmen will be moved up to varsity next year?
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yes they won 17-0 on Saturday, Elder (A) on Wednesday at Moeller, B game at Elder on Thursday.

I am guessing the silence has less to do with a last second loss via safety to a good rival in an very hard fought game than because of the nastiness being spewed on here against some 14 year old kids by blowhard outsiders, but that's just my opinion. Good luck Crusaders!
 
GCLFan99 said:
Awful quite in this thread ever since the undefeated season came to a crashing halt.

Did the Moeller frosh beat LaSalle? How did they look? Any chance any of the freshmen will be moved up to varsity next year?
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I happened to catch a recent game, and think this group has a chance to be good. I liked their skilled players, especially the two RB's. I also like the JV skilled players, RB's and receivers, which bodes well for the future when both those classes plays on the varsity. Moe also returns most of their varsity skilled players next season...

One loss at the frosh level is certainly not the end of the world. You can see they have some very good players on both sides of the ball. #44 LB looks like he can play varsity right now, and for sure will start next year. Also #75 frosh OT Carpenter started and played the entire game vs La Salle, and Moe ran behind him all night long.

GBM
 
Kballer said:
yes they won 17-0 on Saturday, Elder (A) on Wednesday at Moeller, B game at Elder on Thursday.

I am guessing the silence has less to do with a last second loss via safety to a good rival in an very hard fought game than because of the nastiness being spewed on here against some 14 year old kids by blowhard outsiders, but that's just my opinion. Good luck Crusaders!
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Who spewed nastiness towards 14 yr old boys?
 
Kballer said:
Troll named CometsRule- posts have since been deleted. Really below the belt stuff.
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While I think CometsRule was a typical troll trying to stir the pot he did not say anything below the belt. His comments were really directed at the coaching staff and not the individual players, at least not calling out individual players.

I think the lack of comments after the loss was due to being called out on the ridiculous statement that the Moe freshmen would beat X 8 out of 10 times. This statement was based solely on blind fan loyalty rather than any objective assessment of the game. When the poster was challenged he simply chose to abandon the thread and let someone else defend his absence.
 
There's no denying the entire frosh class (including mcbride and carpenter) at Moeller is very talented. Very interested in how the Elder /Moe frosh game plays out. Elder doesn't have as much star power, but they are talented and deep in every position.
 
GCLFan99 said:
While I think CometsRule was a typical troll trying to stir the pot he did not say anything below the belt. His comments were really directed at the coaching staff and not the individual players, at least not calling out individual players.

I think the lack of comments after the loss was due to being called out on the ridiculous statement that the Moe freshmen would beat X 8 out of 10 times. This statement was based solely on blind fan loyalty rather than any objective assessment of the game. When the poster was challenged he simply chose to abandon the thread and let someone else defend his absence.
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Calling out a coaches kid as an embarrassment? calling kids soft? On this we will disagree- throw punches at adults/teams/schools if you must, but I feel that calling kids out (not for their playing) on a public forum is below the belt. I never defended others being obnoxious- whether that's calling kids names or bragging or bashing. But I will always stand up for kids on here- people need to grow up.
 
eastside_purple said:
There's no denying the entire frosh class (including mcbride and carpenter) at Moeller is very talented. Very interested in how the Elder /Moe frosh game plays out. Elder doesn't have as much star power, but they are talented and deep in every position.
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Should be a good game- kids are pumped for it, despite a short turn around to prep for it. The X game was a bitter pill to swallow and they came back strong vs. LaSalle. Great memories for the kids!
 
Another tough loss last night vs Elder 14-13. Again just like the St X game I thought that we out played Elder. The defense played very well to hold Elder's so called great offense to 14 pts. The D-line played another great game especially Mullaney, he is going to be someone we will hear about a lot in the future. LB again were solid, Szabodas was a stud again but we have got to get better at the CB and safety positions!

Offensively, it was RJ left and RJ right. I know RJ is a special talent and not to take anything away from that young man but we have got to throw the ball more to open up the run!!

My biggest frustration is with the lack of coaches on this team, the boys are not getting better! I am seeing the same mistakes by the same kids every week! I know it's freshman football but it's Moeller!! St X, LaSalle, & Elder seemed to have plenty of coaches for those kids.

Still 100% behind the boys and this team because after seeing all the freshman teams in the GCL I would say that we have the most talent and will win a bunch of championships before all is said and done!!

#GoBigMoe!
 
fhsknockout1 said:
Another tough loss last night vs Elder 14-13. Again just like the St X game I thought that we out played Elder. The defense played very well to hold Elder's so called great offense to 14 pts. The D-line played another great game especially Mullaney, he is going to be someone we will hear about a lot in the future. LB again were solid, Szabodas was a stud again but we have got to get better at the CB and safety positions!

Offensively, it was RJ left and RJ right. I know RJ is a special talent and not to take anything away from that young man but we have got to throw the ball more to open up the run!!

My biggest frustration is with the lack of coaches on this team, the boys are not getting better! I am seeing the same mistakes by the same kids every week! I know it's freshman football but it's Moeller!! St X, LaSalle, & Elder seemed to have plenty of coaches for those kids.

Still 100% behind the boys and this team because after seeing all the freshman teams in the GCL I would say that we have the most talent and will win a bunch of championships before all is said and done!!

#GoBigMoe!
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I saw yesterday's game and again I am not sure, other than pure and simple bias, how you can say the Moeller is better? In your defense I admit its easier to be objective when you do not have a kid playing. I am sure I had biases when my kids were playing but now its easier to be objective.

I think Moeller definitely has talent, especially the front seven on D and the RB.

I think the Elder QB is the best freshmen QB in the GCL with the St X QB close behind. The Moeller RB appears to be the best RB in the class.

The secondary on the freshmen level is usually a challenge because a lot of these kids did not play in grade school against teams that were skilled in the passing game. As such they were not tested and did not have as much chance to develop their skills. Be patient as I am sure they will get better.

Based on the scores it appears this class will have close games for the next four years.
 
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