The Vaccine is Effective

I enjoy wrestling said:
What's the healthcare system like in Haiti? What's the standard of living?
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None of that matters as it pertains to this virus. Compared to the US, Haitians are generally not old enough to be affected. That statistic alone explains why the mortality rate is so much lower in Haiti. Vaccination rates are meaningless when the population is this young.
 
Altor said:
None of that matters as it pertains to this virus. Compared to the US, Haitians are generally not old enough to be affected. That statistic alone explains why the mortality rate is so much lower in Haiti. Vaccination rates are meaningless when the population is this young.
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Yes it matters and that statistic alone does not explain the disparity at all. The Haitian numbers are still extremely low by comparison. Using your numbers Haiti would still have over 500,000 people over 65, That's like if the entire population of Wyoming was over 65, they have 1900 deaths. So going by your numbers to get 500,000 of old people in a state which would take around 3,000,000 at 16% ...most those states have around 10,000 covid deaths, much worse than 870 for Haiti. Probably more to do with weight and the fact that our healthcare system is better at keeping really unhealthy people alive. Even at that it still shows the vaccine is absolutely useless at least for heathy people.

What's crazier than that is pushing the often deadly vax (which is now like 4 mutations ago total crap) on young heathy people in our military or they get kicked out. Might as well say they must take the 2018 flu shot while their at it? Criminal stupidity!
 
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Altor said:
It's not that interesting.

Median age of Haitians: 23
Percent of Haitians age 65+: 4.33%

Median age of U.S: 38
Percent of US age 65+: 16.8%
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Not to you or me who have been following this closely and understand the nature of covid. But this must be shocking to State & Federal public health agencies who shutdown the economy and did untold damage to younger people in a misguided attempt to deal with covid.
 
Altor said:
None of that matters as it pertains to this virus. Compared to the US, Haitians are generally not old enough to be affected. That statistic alone explains why the mortality rate is so much lower in Haiti. Vaccination rates are meaningless when the population is this young.
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Which begs the question as to why the Military is about to let tens of thousands of men & women go because they won't get vaccinated. I mean who is advising the American military when the demographics of the armed services would not be expected to require vaccination?
 
lotr10 said:
Which begs the question as to why the Military is about to let tens of thousands of men & women go because they won't get vaccinated. I mean who is advising the American military when the demographics of the armed services would not be expected to require vaccination?
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Fauci?
 
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X

In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites

We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance.
 
Just read on line in a Berenson article (comments section) that California is going to require masking indoors again beginning August 1st. Are these people serious?
 
Irwin20 said:
Just read on line in a Berenson article (comments section) that California is going to require masking indoors again beginning August 1st. Are these people serious?
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They are exercising their control over people. With midterm elections coming up they will try to panic the public as a way to get back to the voting practices that make it a lot easier to cheat.
 
Hammerdrill said:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X

In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites

We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance.
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Key conclusions:

There has been an unwavering message about the safety and efficacy of mRNA vaccinations against SARS-CoV-2 from the public health apparatus in the US and around the globe. The efficacy is increasingly in doubt, as shown in a recent letter to the Lancet Regional Health by Günter Kampf (2021b). Kampf provided data showing that the vaccinated are now as likely as the unvaccinated to spread disease. He concluded: “It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures.” Moreover, the inadequacy of phase I, II, and III trials to evaluate mid-term and long-term side effects from mRNA genetic vaccines may have been misleading on their suppressive impact on the innate immunity of the vaccinees.

In the end, billions of lives are potentially at risk, given the large number of individuals injected with the SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines and the broad range of adverse outcomes we have described. We call on the public health institutions to demonstrate, with evidence, why the issues discussed in this paper are not relevant to public health, or to acknowledge that they are and to act accordingly. Furthermore, we encourage all individuals to make their own health care decisions with this information as a contributing factor in those decisions.
 
lotr10 said:
They are exercising their control over people. With midterm elections coming up they will try to panic the public as a way to get back to the voting practices that make it a lot easier to cheat.
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Sounds legit but does the socialist state of Cali have to be concerned about any Republican candidates winning?
 
The greatest damage from covid has nothing directly to do with the virus:

www.economist.com

Covid learning loss has been a global disaster

Millions of children are still out of school. The costs are stacking up
www.economist.com www.economist.com

It's behind a pay wall but here's the key point from an Instapundit excerpt:

When covid-19 first began to spread around the world, pausing normal lessons was a forgivable precaution. No one knew how transmissible the virus was in classrooms; how sick youngsters would become; or how likely they would be to infect their grandparents. But disruptions to education lasted long after encouraging answers to these questions emerged.
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New data suggest that the damage has been worse than almost anyone expected [emphasis mine — Ed]. Locking kids out of school has prevented many of them from learning how to read properly. Before the pandemic 57% of ten-year-olds in low and middle-income countries could not read a simple story, says the World Bank. That figure may have risen to 70%, it now estimates. The share of ten-year-olds who cannot read in Latin America, probably the worst-affected region, could rocket from around 50% to 80% (see chart 1).
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Children who never master the basics will grow up to be less productive and to earn less. McKinsey, a consultancy, estimates that by 2040 education lost to school closures could cause global gdp to be 0.9% lower than it would otherwise have been—an annual loss of $1.6trn. The World Bank thinks the disruption could cost children $21trn in earnings over their lifetimes—a sum equivalent to 17% of global gdp today. That is much more than the $10trn it had estimated in 2020, and also an increase on the $17trn it was predicting last year.
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America's military leaders are fools. It's bad enough that some of them have embraced the woke agenda at the risk of military effectiveness but now with actions like this they risk the goodwill and high esteem that the American public views this institution with.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Army cuts off unvaccinated soldiers from service, threatening pay and benefits

The Army has announced that the over 60,000 National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers that remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 can't participate in their military duties, effectively cutting them off from some of their benefits.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

There is NO credible medical rational for mandating that military personal get the covid vaccine. And making this demand is an egregious violation of every service man and women's individual freedom. I would not recommend a military career to any young person until this institution has cleaned out it's top brass.
 
lotr10 said:
America's military leaders are fools. It's bad enough that some of them have embraced the woke agenda at the risk of military effectiveness but now with actions like this they risk the goodwill and high esteem that the American public views this institution with.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Army cuts off unvaccinated soldiers from service, threatening pay and benefits

The Army has announced that the over 60,000 National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers that remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 can't participate in their military duties, effectively cutting them off from some of their benefits.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

There is NO credible medical rational for mandating that military personal get the covid vaccine. And making this demand is an egregious violation of every service man and women's individual freedom. I would not recommend a military career to any young person until this institution has cleaned out it's top brass.
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This will backfire wrt the national guard. The gaurdsmen will just force them to kick them out, further depleting their numbers.
 
brian1227 said:
In a report it saved 20 million lives.
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The people who have allowed their brains to be damaged believe every lie the public health Marxists have rolled out.

Those who will get their 4th, 5th, and 6th jab in the next 9 months - well, good luck with that. In the meantime, the normal are moving on.
 
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lotr10 said:
America's military leaders are fools. It's bad enough that some of them have embraced the woke agenda at the risk of military effectiveness but now with actions like this they risk the goodwill and high esteem that the American public views this institution with.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Army cuts off unvaccinated soldiers from service, threatening pay and benefits

The Army has announced that the over 60,000 National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers that remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 can't participate in their military duties, effectively cutting them off from some of their benefits.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

There is NO credible medical rational for mandating that military personal get the covid vaccine. And making this demand is an egregious violation of every service man and women's individual freedom. I would not recommend a military career to any young person until this institution has cleaned out it's top brass.
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And the military is complaining that they dont have the numbers of acceptable new recruits that they need to sustain the readiness that is required.
The west is in fact at the start of a population decline. The military getting new acceptable recruits is going to get far worse not better.
 
Yorktown said:
Im all for drug companies having little to no regulation.
But them actually running the government is insanity.
It is one thing to produce a drug/vaccine and let people make up their own mind to take said drug/vaccine, it is quite obvious that forcing one to take their products is tyranny.
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It‘s the future of government control, via false flags. Big Pharma is sleeping in the same bed so closely to world governments that they’re one and the same.
 
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