Sports Betting

I’m not hugely anti gambling. However, like drugs, alcohol, porn…it’s a vice. It’s dangerous to your moral and economic well-being and should be approached with caution.

If you have responsibility to a spouse and children, you should watch out.

It‘s of no interest to me. I grew up in a house where money wasn’t an issue, nor was money worshipped. I think I was well-served by that. No big “zing” for me when money is “on the line”.
This was kind of my point. I know plenty of bookies. I know plenty of gambling addicts. Giving these people an easier way to get their fix is not a great thing IMO but I guess they will find it nonetheless. I simply wonder how many people never had access to a bookie who are now taking advantage of the one at their fingertips.
 
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This was kind of my point. I know plenty of bookies. I know plenty of gambling addicts. Giving these people an easier way to get their fix is not a great thing IMO but I guess they will find it nonetheless. I simply wonder how many people never had access to a bookie who are now taking advantage of the one at their fingertips.
That’s the same issue with marijuana. Making something fully legal certainly opens the door to more users. How many? How much harm? Hard to say. The preliminary info on marijuana seems to suggest that the impact on the culture (in a place like Colorado) isn’t all that much.

I don’t know about gambling. The advertising suggests that they see a lot of potential new users out there.

Downtown CLE yesterday (St Patrick’s Day)…smelled an awful lot of Mary Jane…
 
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That’s the same issue with marijuana. Making something fully legal certainly opens the door to more users. How many? How much harm? Hard to say. The preliminary info on marijuana seems to suggest that the impact on the culture (in a place like Colorado) isn’t all that much.

I don’t know about gambling. The advertising suggests that they see a lot of potential new users out there.

Downtown CLE yesterday (St Patrick’s Day)…smelled an awful lot of Mary Jane…
Like any industry, they're going to try to establish themselves as the default. Right now, with it just now being legalized in most states, unlike casinos, this is statewide and proximity doesn't matter. So, becoming the 'go to' for the customers is key. That's why they're doing the '200% match', etc. FanDuel and DraftKings have a huge advantage getting spread so far and wide with fantasy sports that the major operators have to give a lot of freebies to keep people from going to the two major names everyone knows. And then they do the same to draw them back or to keep them from straying.

Im of the belief that vices shouldn't be illegal just because they're vices. They're still gonna take place regardless of your moral stance on them. Keeping both sides honest and fair are very important. The biggest reason vices become dens of illegality is because everything around them has to be illegal to exist. And they will exist.

Funny that the side most for 'muh rights' are the ones so in favor of the government playing the caring father role and knowing what's best for you.
 
Funny that the side most for 'muh rights' are the ones so in favor of the government playing the caring father role and knowing what's best for you.
You apparently view this as some kind of very obvious reference. At the moment, I’m not sure which “side” you’re referring to.
 
Im of the belief that vices shouldn't be illegal just because they're vices. They're still gonna take place regardless of your moral stance on them.
Seems kind of simplistic. Fentanyl? Heroin?

And, you think there’s a coalition of voters out there in favor of all vices being legal?
 
You apparently view this as some kind of very obvious reference. At the moment, I’m not sure which “side” you’re referring to.

Not to stray into another forum's territory. But the 'muh rights' crowd are the ones that hate the government telling them they can't do something. Remember the anger over light bulbs? Yeah. But they love big government telling others they can't do things they don't like.

Seems kind of simplistic. Fentanyl? Heroin?

And, you think there’s a coalition of voters out there in favor of all vices being legal?

Nope. But they definitely favor certain restrictions when it suits them.
 
Not to stray into another forum's territory. But the 'muh rights' crowd are the ones that hate the government telling them they can't do something. Remember the anger over light bulbs? Yeah. But they love big government telling others they can't do things they don't like.
Thanks for clarifying because I thought you might be going the other way.
 
As long as the app/sportsbook you use is licensed in the state they should transfer without the need to create a new account. Now some of them are only available in a few states and often gave the bigger bonuses to sign up.
 
I'd be curious to know how you do in one year? You tracking or just having fun with it? I've never met a successful gambler.
I'm curious, too. Started this account March 1 with this philosphy, and went from $200 to $2736 last night. Nets are going to ruin a bunch of parlays today.
 
depends on if you stay disciplined. I took the free money and made some free bets on the Super Bowl. Haven’t opened the app since.
My point was that the first time gambler/drug user also believe they will be disciplined. "This will be fun..." until it's not. People don't know until they get there. My belief is why find out that you're addictive if you haven't gambled before? Regardless of preachyness, I really am just making a statement. I realize some will be fine.
 
You must not know the right people. My buddies all tell me about their big wins. They must never take any bad beats. ;)
I lost $717 on that three pointer at the buzzer by TCU. So yeah, hahaha.

Had two parlays that hinged on Gonzaga -4.5. Total payout was $917. The cutoff to bet is 4 minute mark, and the Lakers game in the Parlay just ended, so I hedged $200 at +145 for TCU +5.5.

If Zags won by 6, I profit $717. If Zags win by 5, I win $1444. If Zags win by less or lose, I profit $290 ($490 payout on a $200 bet). That three took it from 6 to 3.

However, that was my fault. I didn't do the math. If I had bet $360 at TCU +5.5 at +145, I would've ended with $522 for a Zags loss or win by 4 or less. $557 if Zags won by 6 or more. And $1559 if they won by 5. So, I would've had basically guaranteed a pretty nice end for the day. Didn't do the math fast enough to get the even guaranteed win.
 
I laugh at the gambling sites that offer free money to "get you started". Imagine the corner drug dealer giving you a few joints to see if you like it, get you hooked then start charging, then moving up to bigger, more expensive drugs.

I know, I'm the old man, fist to the sky...when did sports become so boring that you have to bet to stay interested?? And when did your hard earned money become so expendable that you just like giving it away?
 
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Winner again. Ended in the black for the day. 11th time out of last 19 days. 7 out of the last 11 days. Up a total of $2545 in 19 days.

Close calls?
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Just needed Kings to win over the Jazz, was tied last minute. Would've won another $475. Oh well.
 
I laugh at the gambling sites that offer free money to "get you started". Imagine the corner drug dealer giving you a few joints to see if you like it, get you hooked then start charging, then moving up to bigger, more expensive drugs.

I know, I'm the old man, fist to the sky...when did sports become so boring that you have to bet to stay interested?? And when did your hard earned money become so expendable that you just like giving it away?
I knew a guy that worked at the Jeep plant in Toledo and he told me in the early '70s workers from the Philip Morris plant in NC would come up with a tractor trailer full of Winston & Kool cartons and hand them out at the end of a shift, they would say a gift from their fellow factory brothers in NC. The military service was another place that free or heavily discounted smokes were made available as a "benefit". Finally smokes "girls" use to hand out free sample packs outside of Terminal Tower in downtown CLE, while in grade school they would hand them to us and tell us they were for our parents with a nice little wink. No surprise that "free" samples are the marketing ploy for something that is highly addictive.
 
I knew a guy that worked at the Jeep plant in Toledo and he told me in the early '70s workers from the Philip Morris plant in NC would come up with a tractor trailer full of Winston & Kool cartons and hand them out at the end of a shift, they would say a gift from their fellow factory brothers in NC. The military service was another place that free or heavily discounted smokes were made available as a "benefit". Finally smokes "girls" use to hand out free sample packs outside of Terminal Tower in downtown CLE, while in grade school they would hand them to us and tell us they were for our parents with a nice little wink. No surprise that "free" samples are the marketing ploy for something that is highly addictive.
That does not surprise me at all and as crazy as it sounds, probably led to alot of people getting lung disease and other smoking ales, along with being an expensive habit.
We're going to have a younger generation who grows up with betting being legal and part of everyday life. I guess I just like my money too much to bet on things I don't have any control over. I'm amazed so many people bet on sports.
 
I started out pretty hot off the gate, laying down some coin on a booming 2-legger (Pens +1.5 at Fenway, and an extended pre-Rose Bowl kickoff PSU line of -13.5) that hit. I found some niche markets to lay on that were profitable, and reliable. NHL over’s and ATGS; CBK home underdog spreads; tennis total games and service breaks.

I ran into four problems: one, getting over-my-head confident and deep into multiple-leg ML parlays (I still remember when the Oilers blew it to the damn Jackets in Alberta 😡); two, digging deep on the Pens (#%*$+%); three, my “cash in” and “cash out” ledger in the bank on betting alone for the months of January and February was XX, XXX and XX, XXX (the difference was +$150) and four, that bank account also has Mrs Dock on it.

The first three problems are comparative trivialities in the grand scheme of things. They’re territorial with games o’ chance. The fourth one is dually a multiple-pronged problem, obvious reasons, but an opportunity to see the light (as painful and trying of a process as it is.) Introspection, mindfulness and a strong enough respect for the fact that going back on a promise you make to someone you love can cause a permanent isolation… those all proved to be strong enough motivations to turn my thinking around and realize it could get worse.
 
Ok, so explain this to the novice. Anytime there is a big comeback by a team, is there suspicious activity? Was there a bunch of money that went to Bama to cover late, before the comeback? I don't gamble so I have no idea how this works. And what is -245 even mean?
 
Ok, so explain this to the novice. Anytime there is a big comeback by a team, is there suspicious activity? Was there a bunch of money that went to Bama to cover late, before the comeback? I don't gamble so I have no idea how this works. And what is -245 even mean?
On comebacks... Usually that is not how you fix a game, it could stick out like a sore thumb. If a smart person is looking to shave it usually is done in a more nuanced method that doesn't lead to a L for the team of the player involved in the shaving. The total is a smart place that this can be done; if there is a big point spread allowing a few meaningless scores to cover the spread.

-245 involves a straight money line bet. Here is it basically explained: A moneyline is simply a bet type that only includes Odds, as in “Odds to win”. Example: a moneyline of +150, is just +150 odds ($100 to win $150) for the listed team to win. A moneyline of -150 is just -150 odds ($150 to win $100) for the listed team to win. So in this example you need to bet $245 to win $100.
 
On comebacks... Usually that is not how you fix a game, it could stick out like a sore thumb. If a smart person is looking to shave it usually is done in a more nuanced method that doesn't lead to a L for the team of the player involved in the shaving. The total is a smart place that this can be done; if there is a big point spread allowing a few meaningless scores to cover the spread.

-245 involves a straight money line bet. Here is it basically explained: A moneyline is simply a bet type that only includes Odds, as in “Odds to win”. Example: a moneyline of +150, is just +150 odds ($100 to win $150) for the listed team to win. A moneyline of -150 is just -150 odds ($150 to win $100) for the listed team to win. So in this example you need to bet $245 to win $100.
So why would anyone bet for LSU in that game? Pay $245 to win $100?? Makes no sense.
 
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