I don't mind the Guardians name. I still call them the Indians anyway. The Guardians name is kinda meh, but they could've done worse. I'm not really in favor of the Spiders name because it sounds Minor League-ish. I think if they went with "Blues" it might've been alright. Its the first name they ever went by. You've got the Browns and the Blues, idk. Maybe you tie it into the Rock-n-Roll HOF? Just sounds like a baseball team name. I know St. Louis Blues are already a hockey team though.Should Cleveland become the Indians again?
They didn't have a problem with any of the names, as usual it was white liberals being offended for everyone else.Guerdians is a horrible mascot. Cleveland Spiders would have been 1000x cooler, I will die on that hill.
Washington Redskins is the name that really ought to come back. Most American Indians had no issue with the Redskins name and many of them were fans of the team.
There is nothing wrong with the name "Indians" in and of itself. The Braves and Chiefs carry on with no issues. The problem was the goofy Chief Wahoo mascot. That is what some people (white politicians) had a problem with. I bet if they would have changed logos, everything would have been OK.Guerdians is a horrible mascot. Cleveland Spiders would have been 1000x cooler, I will die on that hill.
Washington Redskins is the name that really ought to come back. Most American Indians had no issue with the Redskins name and many of them were fans of the team.
It could be argued that the Tomahawk Chop is more racist than both.There is nothing wrong with the name "Indians" in and of itself. The Braves and Chiefs carry on with no issues. The problem was the goofy Chief Wahoo mascot. That is what some people (white politicians) had a problem with. I bet if they would have changed logos, everything would have been OK.
Honestly, "Redskins" was much worse. Cannot imagine a team named the Blackskins being allowed. However, redskins are a delicious potato too. Again, just change the logo...![]()
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Had they went back to the 1939-45 logo and took the red out of his face they could’ve kept the Indians name. It was the Chief Wahoo logo that was targeted as insulting and insensitive, not the team’s name.
Agreed about calling them the Indians. Probably 95% of the time I call them the Indians the first time in a conversation.I still call them the Indians, mostly due to difficultly relearning and the fact their current name rings no bells with me. With their large Amish population to the south, I would suggest the Cleveland Ordnung. There are plenty of names that would culturally fit much better than the Guardians.
The Dolans caved for two reasons, both bad. One, the one brother was running for the US Senate and he was a total milquetoast middle of the road wussy. Two, they wanted that All Star Game cash and caved to MLB.Wrong.
They started with the logo, claiming they'd leave the name alone they just didn’t like the logo. The logo got "retired" and then it became oh the name is racist, you've got to change it too.
And the Dolans caved like the weak fools they are. There's nothing wrong with the name or logo. White liberals who want to be offended for everyone else can go F themselves.
I would have just gone with Cleveland Baseball Club .No mascot .No nickname . ( or do we still have Slider the pink thing??) Thats the point .Outside of the Philly Phanatic , all mascots are lame these daysThe Dolans caved for two reasons, both bad. One, the one brother was running for the US Senate and he was a total milquetoast middle of the road wussy. Two, they wanted that All Star Game cash and caved to MLB.
Look at the Celtics logo..I meen Boston has long been considered one of the most racist cities in America, yet all of their fans embrace the over the top leprechan logo dude . Its not that far different that CHeif Wahoo was /is. Bottom line is probably 99% of all native american Indians had no problem wih Chielf Wqhoo as he was . Dolan is a bigThere is nothing wrong with the name "Indians" in and of itself. The Braves and Chiefs carry on with no issues. The problem was the goofy Chief Wahoo mascot. That is what some people (white politicians) had a problem with. I bet if they would have changed logos, everything would have been OK.
Honestly, "Redskins" was much worse. Cannot imagine a team named the Blackskins being allowed. However, redskins are a delicious potato too. Again, just change the logo...![]()