POLL: If Watson becomes a Brown

How would you feel about Watson becoming a Brown?

  • Yes, he will lead us to the Super Bowl!

    Votes: 7 21.9%

  • Excited, but nervous about the future

    Votes: 4 12.5%

  • Going to miss Baker, but mostly his Progressive commercials

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • Going to regret giving rid of Baker

    Votes: 12 37.5%

  • Meh, won't change much

    Votes: 7 21.9%
  • Total voters
    32
clarkgriswold said:
This is a team that employs Hunt and employed Malik McDowell, Josh Gordon, Johnny Manziel, Armonte Bryant and Antonio Callaway. I'm not going to expect a higher moral ground.
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True enough, although I think that game is kind of like the "3 years post-draft 'we coulda had _____ instead of_______!' game". Maybe you can do that with any team and get a bad looking result, too ?

Marvin's Bengal teams ? Ravens ?

I just hope he has grown up enough to just do the job and enjoy his contract like a gentleman.
 
Yappi said:
Not that I think Baker Mayfield will win a Super Bowl but I suspect he will win one before DeShaun Watson does in Cleveland.

This feels like Christmas shopping a few days before Christmas and trying to buy the hot toy for 10 times it's real value.

Yes, DeShaun Watson is a decent QB but is he really the answer for the Browns? I can't remember too many veterans coming to Cleveland that have lived up to the hype. Probably gets suspended for a few games and the Browns might be out of the playoffs before he takes a snap. Don't buy the Cabbage Patch Doll!!
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That stellar completion percentage dink-n-dunking may have got his last coach dismissed for his conservatism, but I still like the player. Not the price.
 
OldSoulon said:
OK, so if Watson is THAT GOOD, and valuable enough to bring this type of a haul in trade, why are the Texans going to trade him?

And I think he is a very good player.

Also, it's being said by insiders that the Browns are not the front runners for Watson.

So if you don't get Watson and at the same time you've all but told Mayfield, "You're not our guy", where does that leave you?

If Watson doesn't come here, the team is screwed.
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Good call, in hindsight, considering the "we're in, we're out, we're back in"
 
cabezadecaballo said:
True enough, although I think that game is kind of like the "3 years post-draft 'we coulda had _____ instead of_______!' game". Maybe you can do that with any team and get a bad looking result, too ?

Marvin's Bengal teams ? Ravens ?

I just hope he has grown up enough to just do the job and enjoy his contract like a gentleman.
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I heard a funny quote today that the AFC North has a little known bylaw requiring at least one sexual predator QB in the division.
 
Of these Briwns first round qb picks:
* Baker Mayfield (2018); Johnny Manziel (2014); Brandon Weeden (2012); Brady Quinn (2007); Tim Couch (1999); Bernie Kosar (1985 supplemental); Mike Phipps (1970

I always thought the Brandon Weeden pick was the biggest reach. Weeden was the 22nd pick in the 2012 draft and was already 28 years old, just one year younger than 6 year vet Ben Roethlisberger. Never could see what the Browns saw in Weeden. Couch, Bernie & Phipps showed they were 1st rounders. Couch had no help, Bernie was close to getting to a SB and Phipps just ran into the 70’s Steelers, some solid Bengal teams and the Oilers were tough in the early 80’s - just don’t recall any of the Browns teams being able to keep up during those times.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Of these Briwns first round qb picks:
* Baker Mayfield (2018); Johnny Manziel (2014); Brandon Weeden (2012); Brady Quinn (2007); Tim Couch (1999); Bernie Kosar (1985 supplemental); Mike Phipps (1970

I always thought the Brandon Weeden pick was the biggest reach. Weeden was the 22nd pick in the 2012 draft and was already 28 years old, just one year younger than 6 year vet Ben Roethlisberger. Never could see what the Browns saw in Weeden. Couch, Bernie & Phipps showed they were 1st rounders. Couch had no help, Bernie was close to getting to a SB and Phipps just ran into the 70’s Steelers, some solid Bengal teams and the Oilers were tough in the early 80’s - just don’t recall any of the Browns teams being able to keep up during those times.
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Agree with Weeden being a reach. I would also put Manziel up there also. His game in college would never hold up in the NFL. He could of had the best offense around him and he would still be garbage.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Of these Briwns first round qb picks:
* Baker Mayfield (2018); Johnny Manziel (2014); Brandon Weeden (2012); Brady Quinn (2007); Tim Couch (1999); Bernie Kosar (1985 supplemental); Mike Phipps (1970

I always thought the Brandon Weeden pick was the biggest reach. Weeden was the 22nd pick in the 2012 draft and was already 28 years old, just one year younger than 6 year vet Ben Roethlisberger. Never could see what the Browns saw in Weeden. Couch, Bernie & Phipps showed they were 1st rounders. Couch had no help, Bernie was close to getting to a SB and Phipps just ran into the 70’s Steelers, some solid Bengal teams and the Oilers were tough in the early 80’s - just don’t recall any of the Browns teams being able to keep up during those times.
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Not until they finally shyt-canned Phipps and turned it over to Brian Sipe. They had the 1972 Dolphins on the ropes in the playoffs, but Phipps threw 5 or 6 picks in the game to allow the old Dolphins to still be popping the champagne corks to this day. And they traded Paul Warfield in his prime to the Dolphins to get the draft rights for Phipps. So Warfield wears three rings…the 1964 Browns and two more from the Dolphins.
 
cjb5656 said:
Not until they finally shyt-canned Phipps and turned it over to Brian Sipe. They had the 1972 Dolphins on the ropes in the playoffs, but Phipps threw 5 or 6 picks in the game to allow the old Dolphins to still be popping the champagne corks to this day. And they traded Paul Warfield in his prime to the Dolphins to get the draft rights for Phipps. So Warfield wears three rings…the 1964 Browns and two more from the Dolphins.
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Phipps had a knack for choking at the worst possible times, as I recall.
 
I’ll defer to you guys regarding Phipps, I was too young. Just based on NFL history I knew Phipps seldom/never had the more talented team, the 1970’s was just loaded with dynasties.

I just took a look at Brian Sipe’s career, no one would get a chance to develop in today’s game like he did in the 70’s. I didn’t realize he was with the Browns for 5 years before he became the unquestioned #1 qb. Today’s game, he’s selling insurance or coaching high school football by year 4 because he is out of the league by then.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
I’ll defer to you guys regarding Phipps, I was too young. Just based on NFL history I knew Phipps seldom/never had the more talented team, the 1970’s was just loaded with dynasties.

I just took a look at Brian Sipe’s career, no one would get a chance to develop in today’s game like he did in the 70’s. I didn’t realize he was with the Browns for 5 years before he became the unquestioned #1 qb. Today’s game, he’s selling insurance or coaching high school football by year 4 because he is out of the league by then.
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Brian Sipe was a 12th round draft pick … for most of his first 5 years was considered as nothing more than a backup QB, if that … Phipps was the perceived starter and savior … Sipe only got a chance because Phipps was an epic failure … in fact, he was on the practice squad (or whatever it was called back then) for his first few seasons … most Browns fans didn’t even know who he was … classic rags to riches story.
 
Just read the article in the BJ on Watson's civil case.

I guess you have to say they were trying to smear him because he wasn't indicted but he will be a PR nightmare, his entire career and it remains to be seen whether that affects the performance of him and his team and whether the fans accept him!

Of course a Super Bowl win "might" cure everything?!
 
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DB135 said:
Just read the article in the BJ on Watson's civil case.

I guess you have to say they were trying to smear him because he wasn't indicted but he will be a PR nightmare, his entire career and it remains to be seen whether that affects the performance of him and his team and whether the fans accept him!

Of course a Super Bowl win "might" cure everything?!
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Super Bowl win? If he wins the season opener he’s golden with most Browns fans.
 
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