Pirates Cove VII (2012)

Crusaders said:
I think most people knew they were Andrew McCutchen, A.J. Burnett, and Neil Walker + a bunch of guys playing over their heads + a couple guys not playing up to their ability. I was expecting a bit of a drop, but not from +16 to +2 in about a month and half.
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I think McDonald is really good too. What is Walker's status?
 
McDonald's first half was amazing. Not sure what happened after the ASB, but he's only had 2 or 3 really good starts since.

Walker should be back soon. A week or two at most.
 
I saw McDonald piss all over the Reds in Pittsburgh in May. He's probably just in a slump because he's got great stuff.

Walker should help them, I don't think they have much chance to make the playoffs at this point, but I hope they can end the under-.500 streak.
 
I'd say it's more of a mental issue than a slump. He'll have a great outing going, then bomb out in an inning or follow up a great outing with a couple horrible ones.

Walker is really just a steady guy. Hits about .285-.295, a homer every now and then, and can usually be counted on to not strike out in a critical situation. Unfortunately, he and McCutchen just can't make up for everyone else.

They've got the Cubs next up. Unfortunately, the Cubs have really been trouble for the Bucs this year. If they sweep that series, it will definitely look better as far as finishing .500 or better.

I'm already assuming they're out of the playoffs, even though somehow they're only 2.5 back.
 
Crusaders said:
I'd say it's more of a mental issue than a slump. He'll have a great outing going, then bomb out in an inning or follow up a great outing with a couple horrible ones.

Walker is really just a steady guy. Hits about .285-.295, a homer every now and then, and can usually be counted on to not strike out in a critical situation. Unfortunately, he and McCutchen just can't make up for everyone else.

They've got the Cubs next up. Unfortunately, the Cubs have really been trouble for the Bucs this year. If they sweep that series, it will definitely look better as far as finishing .500 or better.

I'm already assuming they're out of the playoffs, even though somehow they're only 2.5 back.
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What is it now, like 6-26 since the 19-inning game??? This team is just pathetic. Starting to think that Hurdle is part of the problem with some of his decisions these past couple weeks.

Pretty sad and embarrassing that this team, based on where they were a month ago, couldn't finish with at least a winning record.

I knew that they would find a way to NOT make the playoffs, but to not get to 82 wins is really atrocious.

It's unbelievable.
 
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It's okay to admit you were wrong. They are horrendously mediocre.
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OK, at this point.....I was wrong. Since Aug. 29, they have beaten no teams that are not the Astros or Cups.....and they haven't beaten them like they should.

McCutchen tanked and so did they, polar opposite of what happened to the Reds when their best player went on the DL.
 
WTF? Was Walker's injury that significant? They need someone to take the pressure off Cutch, and Jones and Alvarez are just too streaky to be consistent threats. Cannot believe this team isn't even going to finish .500. I still believe they're better than this. And more unbelievably, I still like Hurdle as manager, he seems to get a fire under some of these guys, but someone needs to help him with in game decisions. They're just maddening at times.

I'm starting to wonder if this team should EVER be buyers at the deadline. Part of me can't help but wonder if there was some kind of team chemistry they messed with by bringing in Sanchez, Snider and Wandy. Maybe they should have just kept McGehee, Lincoln and Gorkys.
 
According to Jayson Stark, the Pirates could become the first team to ever be 16-games above .500 after 108 games (2/3 of the season) and finish below .500. Ever.

More than 500 teams have been at least 16 over at that point.

I'll try to remember to find a link later.
 
only thing good that came out of this Met series is that Snider may have made the catch of the year in MLB.

6-0 to secure a winning season.

nice finish, Buccos.

solid.
 
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