#PACtion™ 2024

The North Coast Crown Conference can fix their dilemma with a call to CCC.

Black River may want to consider leaving the Lorain County League. 123 boys, D6, and with maybe Elyria Catholic coming in that's not gonna get easier. Who knows? Black River could be in the Firelands if New London goes 8-man. Lucas will vie for the Firelands, too.

Would Cloverleaf want in the LC League? Who knows?

Black River is one hour per Googs to Canton South as their farthest distance to a PACtion school. They have a prior league relationship with Triway and would be a school closer geography-wise to the Wayne County contingent of PACtion.
There you go thinking outside the box again, Rich. A westward expansion of PACtion?!?! Not sure if we have any flat-earthers on this thread, but there's definitely some around here that think anything west of Wooster is beyond the known sports universe. 🤣
 
The newspaper up in Lorain County said EC just made application. I believe many in the LC8 are excited. I don't know if EC is then withdrawing from the newly formed conference?
https://www.morningjournal.com/2024/01/11/elyria-catholic-applies-to-join-lorain-county-league/
Touché. Missed this one.

Reminds me of when Boise State joined The Big East.
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There you go thinking outside the box again, Rich. A westward expansion of PACtion?!?! Not sure if we have any flat-earthers on this thread, but there's definitely some around here that think anything west of Wooster is beyond the known sports universe. 🤣
If you REALLY think about it....very few at The Slaw or Fairless or Manchester would likely be opposed to joining the WCAL. They'd probably love it.

And to that end, Black River is just outside the Northwestern school district; 8 miles from the heart of West Salem.

The problem is the art of thinking is a lost one.
 
There you go thinking outside the box again, Rich. A westward expansion of PACtion?!?! Not sure if we have any flat-earthers on this thread, but there's definitely some around here that think anything west of Wooster is beyond the known sports universe. 🤣
Just as people think west of Wooster is beyond the known sports universe, Richland County people think east of Wooster is the wild untamed forest with hoards of Native Americans chasing after school buses on horseback on the brutal, terrible, undriveable US 250. Instead of making that drive from Richland County to Dover/New Philly in the OCC, they'd rather talk about Lexington vs. Shelby basketball. It's as comfortable to them as meatloaf on a cold day.
 
I am not the marketer that some people are....but Rich and Playoffs??? are missing something right now.....have no clue why it is the Beanie Baby crazy but the Bowdil Stanley Tumbler would just set the western part of the county on fire....on fire I say!


SHOPPING

What is so special about Stanley cups? The psychology behind the year's thirstiest obsession​

Betty Lin-Fisher Bailey Schulz
USA TODAY








Bella Boye is the proud owner of a limited-edition Stanley x Starbucks quencher, the shiny pink tumbler that is going viral online.

But securing the cup wasn’t easy.

The 18-year-old influencer got the third spot in line at her local Target in Tampa, Florida at 4:40 a.m. After camping out in the cold for more than three hours on a beach chair, Boye was among the first to rush inside.

Bella Boye of Tampa, Fla. sat in line for three hours outside a Target to get the latest Stanley cup for her collection.


She and her mom were each able to grab a Stanley. Others in line with her weren’t so lucky – Boye said the cups were gone within seconds.

“It's kind of a FOMO (fear of missing out) thing where people are like, ‘Oh, everyone else has one. So I have to get one,’” Boye said.

The craze over the pink and red Stanley insulated cups at Target and Starbucks is the latest example of an age-old marketing practice, where companies create buzz to fuel a fad.

But social media is giving such campaigns a new twist, experts say, turbocharging the chase for the hot new item as consumers compete for clicks, cachet, or just a sense of belonging to a broader community of collectors.

Target and Stanley did not respond to requests for comment. But Starbucks said it saw an “enthusiastic response” to the winter pink Stanley cup, which launched exclusively in U.S. Starbucks stores inside Target locations on Jan. 3. (Not to be confused with the Stanley “Galentine’s Day” collection sold exclusively at Target – another limited-edition cup that flew off store shelves on New Year's Eve.)

And there are plenty of other products that people are willing to spend hours in line for like Taylor Swift merchandise, designer clothes, and Disney popcorn buckets.

In 2022, some Disney fans stood in line for six hours to buy a Figment-themed popcorn cup, which went viral and sold out quickly. Others can relate to the feeling that once they step into a Disney park, they have to get some Mickey Mouse ears or other Disney-themed souvenir.

Why do consumers go crazy for an item?​

Companies labeling something as “limited edition” or “exclusive” or controlling the number of items that will be available to purchase goes right to a consumer’s psyche, said Josh Clarkson, a consumer psychologist who specializes in the areas of persuasion, social influence, and self-control.

“You label something as limited and somehow it can increase its stock or value” in people’s minds, not necessarily in financial value, Clarkson, a marketing professor at the University of Cincinnati Carl H. Linder College of Business, told USA TODAY.

“It's this idea that we like what we can't have, and we don't like to have our options limited,” he said.

Boye said she can justify owning 11 Stanley cups with “girl math.” The cups are great quality, she notes, so if you drink from the cups daily and consider each day of use worth a dollar, it’s well worth it.

“I’m a dancer, so a water bottle is always with me. I use them all the time,” she said. “I don’t feel silly having a million.”

Bella Boye of Tampa, Fla. sat in line for three hours outside a Target to get the latest Stanley cup for her collection.


Clarkson also said consumers tend to confuse something that is “rare” with something that is “valuable,” when often, it’s not. It just may be valuable to that person in the moment – perhaps for social cachet or to feed on a good childhood memory, Clarkson said.

Additionally, when a company makes something “limited edition,” “they do a very good job of creating a sense of urgency,” he said. That increases the potential for regret if you don't grab it.

"In looking back on our lives, we regret inaction more than action,” Clarkson said. “So the idea that if I buy this and I don't enjoy it, that really doesn't nearly bother us as much as the idea that, ‘Oh, I could have bought this and I didn't.’”

But once that rush of emotions is over, you may question those purchases.

“This sense of urgency can lead to this fury of excitement and buzz,'' Clarkson said. "It almost starts like that snowball that just starts rolling and ... at some point you kind of step back and say ‘How did we get here?’”

'It just became a small obsession'​

Aly Zamorano, 36, of Southern California, first discovered Stanley cups while scrolling through TikTok last year. She said she soon made it her mission to find a peach Stanley like the one that caught her eye, and began calling around to different Dick’s Sporting Goods and Target stores until, at last, she found the tumbler.

“After that, it just became like a small obsession,” she said.

Cup buzz:Stanley cups have people flooding stores and buying out shops. What made them so popular?

Zamorano now owns 40 Stanley cups, give or take ‒ she’s lost count at this point. The collection has cost her an estimated $1,800.

Part of Aly Zamorano's Stanley cup collection sits on display. The California resident owns about 40 Stanley cups.


“When I was younger, I did collect Beanie Babies with my mom. And that was something that we kind of did together,” she said. “I look at it like that now. It's just something fun for me to do and, honestly, it makes me drink more water. So that’s always a plus.”

While the cups are handy – Zamorano talked up how long the cups keep her drinks cold – she doesn’t use all of them. Five or six are used regularly, while the others sit on her shelf “looking pretty.”

Aly Zamorano has spent roughly $1,800 on her Stanley cup collection.


“I think it's just the chase, you know? Like, okay, well that one is really pretty. So let me see if I can go find that,” she said. “But I'm also busy working, too. So really, it’s just what I like and whatever I can find. I really don't have a lot of time to go out and seek them as much as I'd like to.”

Social media, rise of influencers adds to the fueling of “limited edition” items​

While there have always been fads or must-haves – are you old enough to remember Cabbage Patch Kids? – the immediacy of social media and addition of influencers helps fuel the current frenzies, said Jaehee Jung, a professor of fashion and apparel studies who studies consumer behavior at the University of Delaware.

Social media and in particular TikTok, have amplified wanting to have the latest popular item, she said.

“There’s so many trends on TikTok sites and this is one of those,'' Jung told USA TODAY, referring to the Stanley cup obsession. "Consumers don’t just want the item, but they want to go online and show off that they got one and show the scene as it’s happening ... Everyone is interested in creating some kind of story."

The items often aren’t expensive, but it’s the “fun of it” that people get into, Jung said.

Companies love getting the buzz, free advertising​

Companies are encouraging this behavior and want to have that limited-edition item that will create the viral buzz among consumers, she said. Consumers are bored with traditional marketing, so companies want to try different approaches to stimulate interest among the younger generation especially, Jung said.

Companies aren’t even concerned with making a profit on the item if it will create chatter and brand awareness in social media and the press, she said. Companies already have their typical items dubbed “hero products,” which consumers buy over and over again that boost their bottom lines. So they're looking for other items that will build brand awareness.

Brand loyalty for consumers has eroded recently, so anything a company can do to build loyalty, especially among young people who may continue that devotion and provide free advertising via social media shares, is good for a company, said Chip West, a retail and consumer behavior expert at Vericast. His company is a data-driven marketing solutions company that helps brands connect with consumers.

"Keeping the buzz out there with really no investment in advertising is free advertising," West said.

Females are the biggest and most influential consumer marketing demographic for companies, in particular, women in their 20s and 30s, said Jung. But lifestyle may be a bigger influence factor than age, she said.

"Brands cannot under-estimate female consumers," Jung said. They are not only a large percentage of social media influencers, but they also influence their boyfriends, husbands and family members in their buying habits, she said.

And don't forget that young girls also influence their moms, said West.

Companies first started seeing the buzz or FOMO among consumers build during the COVID-19 pandemic, when supply-chain issues made it harder for consumers to find particular products, said West.

When you add peer pressure to have the "coolest thing" on top of scarcity, that magnifies the need to not miss out, especially among younger consumers, Nespehe said.

"So if something starts off and a certain group latches on to it, it just grows like wildfire," West said.

Couple starts a side hustle selling Stanley cups​

Some consumers will buy the item for themselves to enjoy or some may buy to start a collection, which could lead to it having value some day. Or they may buy it to resell it, said West.

Some Stanley cups bought for $45 are being listed and sold for $200 on reseller sites.

Husband and wife Rick and Flora Casta of Charlotte, North Carolina have started a side hustle selling Stanley cups and accessories online. They estimate that it’s made them about $5,000 over the past eight months.

Flora Casta of North Carolina with her Stanley cup collection.


“It’s like a stock, right? If you bought Apple 10 years ago and said, ‘Oh, it's got to be at the peak now, right? iPhones have been out for 15 years,’ and then that's not the case,” Rick Casta said. “We thought (Stanley) would peak, and then it's only really gotten more crazy the last maybe 90, 120 days, between the Target and the Starbucks drops.”

People coming together for one common thing is fascinating​

Clarkson, the psychology professor, said while there are people who are wondering about the "irrationality" of pursuing the latest limited-edition or exclusive thing, the chase can foster connections that build community.

"There is an element of this that is sort of kind of fun,'' Clarkson said. "It's really cool to see so many people from all these different walks of life and all these different places that we would not have connected with, that do sort of connect and bond over something that is seemingly trivial."
 
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The Mini Van Moms of Kenyon Creek, as they take over The Slaw, will be selling Mustang logo Stanley cups.

They'll be pushing out the old, ragged Mustang softball moms of Gen X and their never-ending pepperoni roll, discount card, and popcorn bucket fundraisers.
 
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The Mini Van Moms of Kenyon Creek, as they take over The Slaw, will be selling Mustang logo Stanley cups.

They'll be pushing out the old, ragged Mustang softball moms of Gen X and their never-ending pepperoni roll, discount card, and popcorn bucket fundraisers.
Kotite,
Hmmmm, This soundifies very, very intemeresting to Smoove.......Mini Van Moms of Kenyon Creek, selling logo Stanley Mugsters.....Yep, Smoove is defimately intemerested. How would one Smoove go aboucht gettin' in touch wit' these fine, fine ladies?!

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Kotite,
Hmmmm, This soundifies very, very intemeresting to Smoove.......Mini Van Moms of Kenyon Creek, selling logo Stanley Mugsters.....Yep, Smoove is defimately intemerested. How would one Smoove go aboucht gettin' in touch wit' these fine, fine ladies?!

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Go to yoga classes in Massillon and the surrounding area. Or hang out at Fresh Thyme or Earth Fare at Belden.
 
The North Coast Crown Conference can fix their dilemma with a call to CCC.

Black River may want to consider leaving the Lorain County League. 123 boys, D6, and with maybe Elyria Catholic coming in that's not gonna get easier. Who knows? Black River could be in the Firelands if New London goes 8-man. Lucas will vie for the Firelands, too.

Would Cloverleaf want in the LC League? Who knows?

Black River is one hour per Googs to Canton South as their farthest distance to a PACtion school. They have a prior league relationship with Triway and would be a school closer geography-wise to the Wayne County contingent of PACtion.
Back in the early 2000s there was some talk that Black River and Buckeye were interested in joining the PAC. Obviously, nothing came of it. I know Manchester was pushing it and had both schools on the schedule for a while.
 
Back in the early 2000s there was some talk that Black River and Buckeye were interested in joining the PAC. Obviously, nothing came of it. I know Manchester was pushing it and had both schools on the schedule for a while.
A big part of the problem in PACtion is the Slaw admin doesn't understand the idea of independent thinking. They cave to whatever comes out of Brewster. They think they should be joined at the hip with Fairless. If that's the case, just merge with them and get it over with.

Taxpayers should not accept this but most are unaware or only care about their pet sports of (usually) softball or wrestling or benefit from the good old boy network.

The former Tuslaw AD Dave Burkett was totally from the good old boy network since his dad was a mediocre principal at Tuslaw for over 30 years.
 
Back in the early 2000s there was some talk that Black River and Buckeye were interested in joining the PAC. Obviously, nothing came of it. I know Manchester was pushing it and had both schools on the schedule for a while.
Buckeye would be far too large of a school for the PAC. The problem that they previously had was playing in a conference with D4 and lower schools and dominating them and getting bounced in week 11 because they finally would play a school similar to itself in enrollment.

Manchester had some good games with Black River around 2012-14 if I remember right.
 
Here is the Northwest responses to an article about people wanting Copley to change its mascot name

'Talk of changing our name did not last long'​

The same is true for Northwest Local Schools, which also has a Native American nickname.

In an email Thursday, Northwest Superintendent Shawn Braman said the district is committed to the mascot name, viewing the Indians moniker with pride and respect. Districtwide, it uses an "N" instead of Native American imagery, he said.

The superintendent said there has been no recent discussion on any change. The district includes Clinton Village in Summit County and Canal Fulton Franklin Township and Lawrence Township in Stark County.

"I know once the Guardians changed their name, there was some talk whether the district should consider a change," he said in the email. "The community views our mascot name as one of great respect and enormous pride. The talk of changing our name did not last long."
 
Buckeye would be far too large of a school for the PAC. The problem that they previously had was playing in a conference with D4 and lower schools and dominating them and getting bounced in week 11 because they finally would play a school similar to itself in enrollment.

Manchester had some good games with Black River around 2012-14 if I remember right.
This was back 20 years ago. Buckeye has grown since then. Manchester had some good games with Buckeye, too. East Canton and Coventry were about to leave. Timken and Triway were about to be added. From what I understood at the time the opposition to Buckeye and Black River came from Tusky Valley and Fairless.
 
This was back 20 years ago. Buckeye has grown since then. Manchester had some good games with Buckeye, too. East Canton and Coventry were about to leave. Timken and Triway were about to be added. From what I understood at the time the opposition to Buckeye and Black River came from Tusky Valley and Fairless.
Great history lesson there, @TopCat . Since Tusky's out of the PAC and Fairless doesn't want an overly competitive league maybe they'll have a different perspective now on Black River. A D6 school with only4 trips to playoffs in the 10 years prior to playoffs expanding.

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I am not the marketer that some people are....but Rich and Playoffs??? are missing something right now.....have no clue why it is the Beanie Baby crazy but the Bowdil Stanley Tumbler would just set the western part of the county on fire....on fire I say!


SHOPPING

What is so special about Stanley cups? The psychology behind the year's thirstiest obsession​

Betty Lin-Fisher Bailey Schulz
USA TODAY








Bella Boye is the proud owner of a limited-edition Stanley x Starbucks quencher, the shiny pink tumbler that is going viral online.

But securing the cup wasn’t easy.

The 18-year-old influencer got the third spot in line at her local Target in Tampa, Florida at 4:40 a.m. After camping out in the cold for more than three hours on a beach chair, Boye was among the first to rush inside.

Bella Boye of Tampa, Fla. sat in line for three hours outside a Target to get the latest Stanley cup for her collection.


She and her mom were each able to grab a Stanley. Others in line with her weren’t so lucky – Boye said the cups were gone within seconds.

“It's kind of a FOMO (fear of missing out) thing where people are like, ‘Oh, everyone else has one. So I have to get one,’” Boye said.

The craze over the pink and red Stanley insulated cups at Target and Starbucks is the latest example of an age-old marketing practice, where companies create buzz to fuel a fad.

But social media is giving such campaigns a new twist, experts say, turbocharging the chase for the hot new item as consumers compete for clicks, cachet, or just a sense of belonging to a broader community of collectors.

Target and Stanley did not respond to requests for comment. But Starbucks said it saw an “enthusiastic response” to the winter pink Stanley cup, which launched exclusively in U.S. Starbucks stores inside Target locations on Jan. 3. (Not to be confused with the Stanley “Galentine’s Day” collection sold exclusively at Target – another limited-edition cup that flew off store shelves on New Year's Eve.)

And there are plenty of other products that people are willing to spend hours in line for like Taylor Swift merchandise, designer clothes, and Disney popcorn buckets.

In 2022, some Disney fans stood in line for six hours to buy a Figment-themed popcorn cup, which went viral and sold out quickly. Others can relate to the feeling that once they step into a Disney park, they have to get some Mickey Mouse ears or other Disney-themed souvenir.

Why do consumers go crazy for an item?​

Companies labeling something as “limited edition” or “exclusive” or controlling the number of items that will be available to purchase goes right to a consumer’s psyche, said Josh Clarkson, a consumer psychologist who specializes in the areas of persuasion, social influence, and self-control.

“You label something as limited and somehow it can increase its stock or value” in people’s minds, not necessarily in financial value, Clarkson, a marketing professor at the University of Cincinnati Carl H. Linder College of Business, told USA TODAY.

“It's this idea that we like what we can't have, and we don't like to have our options limited,” he said.

Boye said she can justify owning 11 Stanley cups with “girl math.” The cups are great quality, she notes, so if you drink from the cups daily and consider each day of use worth a dollar, it’s well worth it.

“I’m a dancer, so a water bottle is always with me. I use them all the time,” she said. “I don’t feel silly having a million.”

Bella Boye of Tampa, Fla. sat in line for three hours outside a Target to get the latest Stanley cup for her collection.


Clarkson also said consumers tend to confuse something that is “rare” with something that is “valuable,” when often, it’s not. It just may be valuable to that person in the moment – perhaps for social cachet or to feed on a good childhood memory, Clarkson said.

Additionally, when a company makes something “limited edition,” “they do a very good job of creating a sense of urgency,” he said. That increases the potential for regret if you don't grab it.

"In looking back on our lives, we regret inaction more than action,” Clarkson said. “So the idea that if I buy this and I don't enjoy it, that really doesn't nearly bother us as much as the idea that, ‘Oh, I could have bought this and I didn't.’”

But once that rush of emotions is over, you may question those purchases.

“This sense of urgency can lead to this fury of excitement and buzz,'' Clarkson said. "It almost starts like that snowball that just starts rolling and ... at some point you kind of step back and say ‘How did we get here?’”

'It just became a small obsession'​

Aly Zamorano, 36, of Southern California, first discovered Stanley cups while scrolling through TikTok last year. She said she soon made it her mission to find a peach Stanley like the one that caught her eye, and began calling around to different Dick’s Sporting Goods and Target stores until, at last, she found the tumbler.

“After that, it just became like a small obsession,” she said.

Cup buzz:Stanley cups have people flooding stores and buying out shops. What made them so popular?

Zamorano now owns 40 Stanley cups, give or take ‒ she’s lost count at this point. The collection has cost her an estimated $1,800.

Part of Aly Zamorano's Stanley cup collection sits on display. The California resident owns about 40 Stanley cups.'s Stanley cup collection sits on display. The California resident owns about 40 Stanley cups.


“When I was younger, I did collect Beanie Babies with my mom. And that was something that we kind of did together,” she said. “I look at it like that now. It's just something fun for me to do and, honestly, it makes me drink more water. So that’s always a plus.”

While the cups are handy – Zamorano talked up how long the cups keep her drinks cold – she doesn’t use all of them. Five or six are used regularly, while the others sit on her shelf “looking pretty.”

Aly Zamorano has spent roughly $1,800 on her Stanley cup collection.


“I think it's just the chase, you know? Like, okay, well that one is really pretty. So let me see if I can go find that,” she said. “But I'm also busy working, too. So really, it’s just what I like and whatever I can find. I really don't have a lot of time to go out and seek them as much as I'd like to.”

Social media, rise of influencers adds to the fueling of “limited edition” items​

While there have always been fads or must-haves – are you old enough to remember Cabbage Patch Kids? – the immediacy of social media and addition of influencers helps fuel the current frenzies, said Jaehee Jung, a professor of fashion and apparel studies who studies consumer behavior at the University of Delaware.

Social media and in particular TikTok, have amplified wanting to have the latest popular item, she said.

“There’s so many trends on TikTok sites and this is one of those,'' Jung told USA TODAY, referring to the Stanley cup obsession. "Consumers don’t just want the item, but they want to go online and show off that they got one and show the scene as it’s happening ... Everyone is interested in creating some kind of story."

The items often aren’t expensive, but it’s the “fun of it” that people get into, Jung said.

Companies love getting the buzz, free advertising​

Companies are encouraging this behavior and want to have that limited-edition item that will create the viral buzz among consumers, she said. Consumers are bored with traditional marketing, so companies want to try different approaches to stimulate interest among the younger generation especially, Jung said.

Companies aren’t even concerned with making a profit on the item if it will create chatter and brand awareness in social media and the press, she said. Companies already have their typical items dubbed “hero products,” which consumers buy over and over again that boost their bottom lines. So they're looking for other items that will build brand awareness.

Brand loyalty for consumers has eroded recently, so anything a company can do to build loyalty, especially among young people who may continue that devotion and provide free advertising via social media shares, is good for a company, said Chip West, a retail and consumer behavior expert at Vericast. His company is a data-driven marketing solutions company that helps brands connect with consumers.

"Keeping the buzz out there with really no investment in advertising is free advertising," West said.

Females are the biggest and most influential consumer marketing demographic for companies, in particular, women in their 20s and 30s, said Jung. But lifestyle may be a bigger influence factor than age, she said.

"Brands cannot under-estimate female consumers," Jung said. They are not only a large percentage of social media influencers, but they also influence their boyfriends, husbands and family members in their buying habits, she said.

And don't forget that young girls also influence their moms, said West.

Companies first started seeing the buzz or FOMO among consumers build during the COVID-19 pandemic, when supply-chain issues made it harder for consumers to find particular products, said West.

When you add peer pressure to have the "coolest thing" on top of scarcity, that magnifies the need to not miss out, especially among younger consumers, Nespehe said.

"So if something starts off and a certain group latches on to it, it just grows like wildfire," West said.

Couple starts a side hustle selling Stanley cups​

Some consumers will buy the item for themselves to enjoy or some may buy to start a collection, which could lead to it having value some day. Or they may buy it to resell it, said West.

Some Stanley cups bought for $45 are being listed and sold for $200 on reseller sites.

Husband and wife Rick and Flora Casta of Charlotte, North Carolina have started a side hustle selling Stanley cups and accessories online. They estimate that it’s made them about $5,000 over the past eight months.

Flora Casta of North Carolina with her Stanley cup collection.


“It’s like a stock, right? If you bought Apple 10 years ago and said, ‘Oh, it's got to be at the peak now, right? iPhones have been out for 15 years,’ and then that's not the case,” Rick Casta said. “We thought (Stanley) would peak, and then it's only really gotten more crazy the last maybe 90, 120 days, between the Target and the Starbucks drops.”

People coming together for one common thing is fascinating​

Clarkson, the psychology professor, said while there are people who are wondering about the "irrationality" of pursuing the latest limited-edition or exclusive thing, the chase can foster connections that build community.

"There is an element of this that is sort of kind of fun,'' Clarkson said. "It's really cool to see so many people from all these different walks of life and all these different places that we would not have connected with, that do sort of connect and bond over something that is seemingly trivial."
When is the Reader Digest version coming out? This is like reading War and Peace.:oops:
 
Great history lesson there, @TopCat . Since Tusky's out of the PAC and Fairless doesn't want an overly competitive league maybe they'll have a different perspective now on Black River. A D6 school with only4 trips to playoffs in the 10 years prior to playoffs expanding.

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@Rich Kotite would be a fan of Black River since they have been running the Wing Tee since they started playing football, heck I heard they finally retired the leather helmet down there in Sullivan about 15 years ago 😁
 
Manchester had some good games with Black River around 2012-14 if I remember right.
Manchester leads the series 11-3.

Home team listed second.

1999 Black River 14 Manchester 19
2000 Manchester 40 Black River 7

2005 Black River 7 Manchester 35
2006 Manchester 21 Black River 10
2007 Black River 7 Manchester 33
2008 Manchester 50 Black River 12
2009 Black River 7 Manchester 48
2010 Manchester 21 Black River 3
2011 Black River 29 Manchester 28
2011 Manchester 24 Black River 49 (Regional Quarterfinal)
2012 Manchester 41 Black River 14
2013 Black River 13 Manchester 56
2014 Manchester 51 Black River 28

2021 Black River 21 Manchester 14
 
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