I agree it will be a very good game, but i also look at Centerville just beat the Saints at the end of the season, so they knew Seton well too!They have won three consecutive playoff game 4-1. I'd guess they out-shot Centerville 3 to 1. However MND knows Seton very well. Should be a great matchup.
I believe the winners of these two games wins state in their divisionsSeton putting up 4 on State #6 Centerville who has a tremendous D, having just lost to them a few weeks back, knowing C'ville has only given up 4 goals 2 times previously in the last 9 years, and Waynesville beating the team 9-2 that just took down State #5 and State #12 in the two previous games are two of the bigger statement wins I've seen in SW Ohio in a long time. Also of note 4 of the 6 remaining schools in SW Ohio are private. Madeira the biggest surprise for me, after the beating they took from Waynesville to start the season I had low expectations. Too cold last night for me to make any games. I really wanted to see Milford /MND, but will make either MND/Seton or Waynesville/Summit Saturday. Both should be immense and intense games.
I'd be curious (if anyone has access to stats) how many shots Seton had on goal? I'd guess 20.Seton putting up 4 on State #6 Centerville who has a tremendous D, having just lost to them a few weeks back, knowing C'ville has only given up 4 goals 2 times previously in the last 9 years, and Waynesville beating the team 9-2 that just took down State #5 and State #12 in the two previous games are two of the bigger statement wins I've seen in SW Ohio in a long time. Also of note 4 of the 6 remaining schools in SW Ohio are private. Madeira the biggest surprise for me, after the beating they took from Waynesville to start the season I had low expectations. Too cold last night for me to make any games. I really wanted to see Milford /MND, but will make either MND/Seton or Waynesville/Summit Saturday. Both should be immense and intense games.
Seton had 17 shots and 8 were on goal.I'd be curious (if anyone has access to stats) how many shots Seton had on goal? I'd guess 20.
It was certainly one of their better performances on the year. And it was VERY cold!!!!
Let’s hope he wind isn’t a factor this year!!GCL v GCL back to back years!
Didnt matter. Could only muster a goal on PK. 3-0 is an asswhoppin. Watched the feed and the players werent on the field anyway.SCD is up 3-0 on Waynesville with 5 minutes to play. After SCD's 2nd and 3rd goal, their entire bench ran up the sideline with many of them running onto the field near the sideline. The SCD Coach should've been carded along with EVERY SCD player that came onto the field should also have been carded for unsportsmanlike conduct! There's no place for that type of behavior in a HS soccer game. Very disappointed to see that happen without any recourse!
“Any player, coach or bench personnel shall be cautioned (yellow card) for: any delayed, excessive or prolonged act(s) by which a player(s)
attempts to focus attention upon himself/herself and/or prohibits a timely restart of the game.” The last part definitely happened! Waynesville players had to wait for SCD to finish their celebration before their kickoff. When one considers that many goals happen within five minutes of another goal, one could easily assume/surmise that the scoring team is intentionally celebrating to delay the the kick-off as a means to reduce the likelihood that their opponents could quickly counter the goal that was just scored.
St. John...An "asswhoppin?" Really?? Did you actually watch the game?? Because if you did then you were definitely watching a totally different game then most of the people in the stadium. As a neutral observer with no ties or allegiance to either school, Wville had more possession and total shots that SCD. SCD did a great job of countering and was much better at finishing. Wville settled for long range shots and crosses which was there downfall. But to say it was an "asswhoppin proves that your soccer analysis skills are faulty at best. Overall, I expected more high quality possession style soccer and was disappointed with the level of play from both schools. FYI--The feed does show that a couple of the bench players did in fact enter the field. Look for OHSAA to address this issue in the near future.Didnt matter. Could only muster a goal on PK. 3-0 is an asswhoppin. Watched the feed and the players werent on the field any
Since you like to copy and paste into different forums, thought id call you out on this one as well Pundit.SCD is up 3-0 on Waynesville with 5 minutes to play. After SCD's 2nd and 3rd goal, their entire bench ran up the sideline with many of them running onto the field near the sideline. The SCD Coach should've been carded along with EVERY SCD player that came onto the field should also have been carded for unsportsmanlike conduct! There's no place for that type of behavior in a HS soccer game. Very disappointed to see that happen without any recourse!
“Any player, coach or bench personnel shall be cautioned (yellow card) for: any delayed, excessive or prolonged act(s) by which a player(s)
attempts to focus attention upon himself/herself and/or prohibits a timely restart of the game.” The last part definitely happened! Waynesville players had to wait for SCD to finish their celebration before their kickoff. When one considers that many goals happen within five minutes of another goal, one could easily assume/surmise that the scoring team is intentionally celebrating to delay the the kick-off as a means to reduce the likelihood that their opponents could quickly counter the goal that was just scored.
You sound like a neutral observer. I will not look for the ohsaa to address as nobody cares except for you. You really look bitter posting the same comment in three different threads. A neutral observer that really wants the entire SCD team to be carded.St. John...An "asswhoppin?" Really?? Did you actually watch the game?? Because if you did then you were definitely watching a totally different game then most of the people in the stadium. As a neutral observer with no ties or allegiance to either school, Wville had more possession and total shots that SCD. SCD did a great job of countering and was much better at finishing. Wville settled for long range shots and crosses which was there downfall. But to say it was an "asswhoppin proves that your soccer analysis skills are faulty at best. Overall, I expected more high quality possession style soccer and was disappointed with the level of play from both schools. FYI--The feed does show that a couple of the bench players did in fact enter the field. Look for OHSAA to address this issue in the near future.
Flyster...aka new member. Your first mistake is making assumptions when you know nothing about me as I've played competitive sports my whole life. Your second, third, and fourth mistakes are believing I support either school when I do not as I am from Toledo, I watched the game via the NFHS network, and I never mentioned anything about killing the clock being unsportsmanlike as that's a strategy commonly used by teams all over the world. Finally, OHSAA established the excessive celebration rules in 2019 and SCD's celebration after every goal by running down the sidelines to meet up with the field players who ran towards them violates the very essence of the excessive celebration rules. OHSAA Excessive Celebration Rules “Any player, coach or bench personnel shall be cautioned (yellow card) for: any delayed, excessive or prolonged act(s) by which a player(s)Since you like to copy and paste into different forums, thought id call you out on this one as well Pundit.
Really Pundit? Sounds like you’ve never played a competitive sport before….. These girls are allowed to celebrate well-earned goals. The celebrations were appropriate and respectful….also, clearly you were on Waynesville side and could not visibly see the Summit sideline in which both celebrations took place. But the girls on the Summit bench most certainly did not step onto the field, hence why no one was carded….. you are a very bitter, sore loser. Also, if you watched the game, you could intently tell Summit was not trying to delay/run down the clock until the final 2 minutes when Summit intentionally took the ball to the corner flag.
Picking on young girls for celebrating and being excited about scoring goals, shame on you.
St John, I'm from Toledo and watched the game via the NFHS network. The rules should be followed by every Ohio HS team without exception. Teams that fail to follow the rules should be penalized so as to ensure fairness. Failure to equally enforce all of the rules leads to the degradation of HS sports. If the referee and OHSAA aren't going to enforce their own rules then, why have any rules at all?You sound like a neutral observer. I will not look for the ohsaa to address as nobody cares except for you. You really look bitter posting the same comment in three different threads. A neutral observer that really wants the entire SCD team to be carded.
In my opinion, no neutral observer finds a HS soccer forum and posts the same comment in at least 3 different threads. Cut/Pasted the first few responses, and then started replying to other comments. Nor does a neutral observer find the OHSSA rule, post it, and call for players and coaches to be punished. Oh boy. That’s passion! I don’t think its “no ties”. It’s okay. We all love our teams and get frustrated when they lose. But let’s not disrespect the kids.As a neutral observer with no ties or allegiance to either school,
Not sure it was their super bowl, the school has won state 3 times in the last twelve years but A big win for these girls against a great team. I watched two other games yesterday and all celebrated the same after goals, its a regional final.Well I’m not a casual observer. And I’ll say this. The better team won. Summit is talented. Young and talented. That is a great thing for them. They will have years of being successful. They played to our weaknesses and exploited them. That’s smart and just good coaching. This was the biggest game those summit girls have ever won. They will dominate Tuesday and their eventual game vs River will be different. I’ll also say that they 100% broke the celebration rule, I’ve watched the video 5 times to see how our break down on the 2nd and 3rd goals happened. Personally I understand, this was their Super Bowl. But it doesn’t change that rules are rules and when you break them you should accept the penalty. The one celebration was quite possibly the longest girls high school soccer celebration I’ve seen. If I were them I’d have probably done it too. But as I said you have to accept the penalty.
I’m proud of the team over the 4 years and Sam and Kendal. Sam has had a very good high school career and Kendal has too so far. Watching them play together for the last 2 years has been a lifetime highlight. They have both given it everything they could and never took the easy/lazy road on or off the field. Seeing them out there with their friends winning and even losing has been an awesome experience.
Good luck to all the local girls continuing on from Summit, Seton, CCD and Madeira. As I’ve said before I’ll miss it but I am absolutely without a doubt ready for club.
Not the schools Super Bowl but these girls. They have few seniors, and these girls lost to Indian Hill 2 years ago, lost to us by an equal score in Reginals last year. I respect them. Summit is as storied a program as there is in Ohio.Not sure it was their super bowl, the school has won state 3 times in the last twelve years but A big win for these girls against a great team. I watched two other games yesterday and all celebrated the same after goals, its a regional final.
I'd like to add: When we were selecting a HS to addend, Summit was our #1 choice. COACH MIKE FEE is a wonderful human being and a great coach who cares about his players. He is genuine, tough, and tactically gifted. Unfortunately, we had to settle for quite the opposite at MND, but at least she got to play with some of the best athletes Cincinnati has to offer.Not the schools Super Bowl but these girls. Summit is as storied a program as there is in Ohio.
73homer....your opinion is incorrect like many others on here that make assumptions. As a former OHSAA and USSF official, I believe that referees should equally enforce the rules without prejudice or bias. Unfortunately, that's not always the case with many officials who have forgotten that their primary purpose is to apply/enforce the laws of the game in a fair and impartial manner. Having officiated for 10 years, I have a unique perspective because I look at the game from the perspective of a player, a referee, and as a coach. When I observe actions that are unsportsmanlike, or play that is dangerous, or officials clearly calling a game in one team's favor then I feel obliged to bring attention to these issues in an attempt to prevent said issues from repeating and to improve HS soccer in general. I watched the SCD vs Wville game on NFHS since it was the only game available to watch on their network. I expected to see two highly talented teams playing a beautiful game being officiated by a quality CR and ARs. Needless to say that I was disappointed on both levels. FYI--EmptyCup's analysis of the game is "spot on."In my opinion, no neutral observer finds a HS soccer forum and posts the same comment in at least 3 different threads. Cut/Pasted the first few responses, and then started replying to other comments. Nor does a neutral observer find the OHSSA rule, post it, and call for players and coaches to be punished. Oh boy. That’s passion! I don’t think its “no ties”. It’s okay. We all love our teams and get frustrated when they lose. But let’s not disrespect the kids.
I don't think the refs should suck the enjoyment out of a celebration in an emotional regional final game by giving the entire team and coaches yellow cards for being happy. you said " When one considers that many goals happen within five minutes of another goal, one could easily assume/surmise that the scoring team is intentionally celebrating to delay the the kick-off as a means to reduce the likelihood that their opponents could quickly counter the goal that was just scored."73homer....your opinion is incorrect like many others on here that make assumptions. As a former OHSAA and USSF official, I believe that referees should equally enforce the rules without prejudice or bias. Unfortunately, that's not always the case with many officials who have forgotten that their primary purpose is to apply/enforce the laws of the game in a fair and impartial manner. Having officiated for 10 years, I have a unique perspective because I look at the game from the perspective of a player, a referee, and as a coach. When I observe actions that are unsportsmanlike, or play that is dangerous, or officials clearly calling a game in one team's favor then I feel obliged to bring attention to these issues in an attempt to prevent said issues from repeating and to improve HS soccer in general. I watched the SCD vs Wville game on NFHS since it was the only game available to watch on their network. I expected to see two highly talented teams playing a beautiful game being officiated by a quality CR and ARs. Needless to say that I was disappointed on both levels. FYI--EmptyCup's analysis of the game is "spot on."
St John...Are you saying that just because several teams are breaking OHSAA rules that we should just turn a blind eye on it and accept it? Using that premise we could also justify other MLB and CF teams stealing signals since the Astros and UofM did it.
This explains A LOT.As a former OHSAA and USSF official.
why would i complain to the OHSAA for something that wasn't called. That's your job bc you are so butt hurt about the celebrations. and apparently they can pick and choose which laws they want to enforce bc nothing was called. So even though you are absolutely criticizing that poor ref who was doing the best job he could do, I applaud him for being in the moment and not making it all about him by being Johnny Yellow card.St. John...If you don't like OHSAA's rules on excessive celebrations then, complain to OHSAA for making rules that you believe "suck the enjoyment out of celebrations." Remember, Referees are like police officers and judges, their job is to enforce/apply the laws as written and not to pick and choose which laws they want to enforce/apply. As for the clock stopped comment, you clearly missed the point. FYI--Most restart kickoffs happen within 30-35 seconds of a goal being scored. Wville players had to wait over a minute for the SCD players to finish their celebration. This may seem like nothing to you but many teams, that are scored upon, quickly run/pass the ball up to half in order to re-start the game ASAP in an attempt to get the goal back. Especially when considering many goals are scored within 5 minutes of another one. I know that my players would complain about having to stand there for an additional 30+ seconds waiting for another team to finish their goal celebration with the sideline players. Please keep in mind that I'm not against all of the field players coming together and celebrating the goal on the field, the problem is with the bench players running down the sideline when the 2nd and 3rd goals are scored and watching the field players run over to the sideline to celebrate with the bench players especially when OHSAA banned excessive celebrations in 2019. Please keep in mind I'm criticizing the referees for not enforcing OHSAA rules (if the rules aren't enforced then why have them) and the SCD Coach for not controlling the bench players since eliminating unsportsmanlike sideline behavior was a major emphasis by OHSAA this year.
73homer....Clearly you didn't read my post as I did state that I'm no longer refeeing. I have been coaching varsity soccer for the past 20+ years and hold the highest national coaching licenses. And since you like to make assumptions, I'm going to make the assumption that I've actually forgotten more about the game of soccer then you will ever know. buh-bye!
a ref and a coach?? should have guessed this combo from your name!I have been coaching varsity soccer for the past 20+ years
Maybe you should try to remember that it is still a game.I've actually forgotten more about the game of soccer then you will ever know.