NCAA mulling in-season action after Oregon's controversial late-game situational move helped Ducks beat Ohio State

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Oregon coaches exploited a loophole in the rulebook and it could result in in-season action from the NCAA.

With 10 seconds left in the Ducks’ win over Ohio State on Saturday, the Buckeyes were driving to get into range for what would have been a game-winning field goal when Oregon called a timeout. After the stoppage, the Ducks sent 12 defenders onto the field for a third-down play that resulted in an incomplete pass and left Ohio State with just six seconds on the clock.
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NCAA mulling in-season action after Oregon's controversial late-game situational move helped Ducks beat Ohio State

The NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively “engaged” in examining Oregon's controversial play for possible action.
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Yappi said:
sports.yahoo.com

NCAA mulling in-season action after Oregon's controversial late-game situational move helped Ducks beat Ohio State

The NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively “engaged” in examining Oregon's controversial play for possible action.
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Allowing the O to take the play or the penalty is what it should be. But the penalty should also result in setting the clock back to the time at the snap, and not starting it until the next snap.
The fact the time isn’t reset is kind of like the horrible failed experiment of starting the clock on the kick instead of the catch.
 
Good call to change the rule, doesn’t really make sense to penalize the offense when the defense commits a penalty.

At the same time, assuming it was intentional and given Lanning has had a few boneheaded in game coaching moments I’m not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt*, incredible job to exploit a loophole.

*im sure he’s losing sleep over that
 
Yappi said:
Seems the officials should be able to call an unsportsmanlike penalty in a situation like this for making a mockery of the game.

Intentionally creating a penalty to benefit a team is not a good look.
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No, it does not seem they should have called an unsportsmanlike penalty.
 
Orin Swift said:
No, it does not seem they should have called an unsportsmanlike penalty.
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I'm not saying they should have called it.

What I am saying is that the NCAA could give the officials a green light to call an unsportsmanlike penalty in a similar situation in the future. That would allow them to use the current rules to correct an obvious loophole without changing any rules midseason.
 
Yappi said:
I'm not saying they should have called it.

What I am saying is that the NCAA could give the officials a green light to call an unsportsmanlike penalty in a similar situation in the future. That would allow them to use the current rules to correct an obvious loophole without changing any rules midseason.
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I disagree that an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty should be called because the NCAA poorly worded the rule.
 
I have LONG SAID that there should be 2 different penalties..........5 yards if itwas just the player running off the field or 15 if he participated in the play
 
Well if the rule change was in place, there was no guarantee OSU wins but they would have had a chance. Then again in terms of time management on that last drive, Ohio State should not have been in that situation. Smith screwed up and Day screwed up.
 
Omega said:
Well if the rule change was in place, there was no guarantee OSU wins but they would have had a chance. Then again in terms of time management on that last drive, Ohio State should not have been in that situation. Smith screwed up and Day screwed up.
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Plenty of blame to go around for sure.
 
To me the rule is incorrect. When there is a penalty, the clock should be stopped and not started until the next snap. Now if you want to move games along, make it a "last two minutes" rule where the clock stops on penalties. I think Ohio State, like most of the viewers watching were surprised the clock was running. However, this is a case again where you hang onto those 3 timeouts per half as long as you can. You go into the last minutes with 1 or 0 timeouts, it's your fault.
 
Rule change is now official


After the two-minute timeout in either half, if the defense commits a substitution foul and 12 or more players are on the field and participate in a down, officials will penalize the defense for the foul and, at the option of the offended team, reset the game clock back to the time displayed at the snap.
 
The NCAA almost had to something now. If they didn't, you would have a lot of teams try this or similiar schemes. I keep thinking that this is an unsportsmanlike act. Deliberately playing more players then the rules allow is really stretching. If Oregon uses 12, what would have kept another team from playing 13 or 14. I know a number of rules I could benefit from but I would be reluctant to try.
 
Dragon72 said:
The NCAA almost had to something now. If they didn't, you would have a lot of teams try this or similiar schemes. I keep thinking that this is an unsportsmanlike act. Deliberately playing more players then the rules allow is really stretching. If Oregon uses 12, what would have kept another team from playing 13 or 14. I know a number of rules I could benefit from but I would be reluctant to try.
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I am guessing it has to have happened before. I wonder why it hasn't happened a lot, before. We have people being paid millions to win football games. This is/was a really smart move. Why aren't these coaches smarter, given all that money they are being paid.
 
14Red said:
To me the rule is incorrect. When there is a penalty, the clock should be stopped and not started until the next snap. Now if you want to move games along, make it a "last two minutes" rule where the clock stops on penalties. I think Ohio State, like most of the viewers watching were surprised the clock was running. However, this is a case again where you hang onto those 3 timeouts per half as long as you can. You go into the last minutes with 1 or 0 timeouts, it's your fault.
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I think you are confusing the OPI with the illegal substitution. On the OPI the clock will start with the ready for play signal from the referee, since the play ended with the ball inbounds. This makes sense.
 
Right or wrong, I relate this to an attorney finding a loophole to get the bad guy off. It goes back to the NASCAR saying "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying".
 
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