Marcus Blaze

All I can say is that I would love to see Marcus at OSU. Jagger, Logan, and the current staff have shown they can develop talent. Now add Coleman, and let's try to hire Rei Higuchi to coach and train at the Ohio RTC. Marcus is homegrown, humble, and would be a great face for my favorite wrestling program.

But I'll root for Marcus wherever he goes. I think he'll grow into at least 149 by the time he finishes college.

I have nothing but respect for Marcus and all who have helped him along the way. Great work by all !!
 
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I watch a decent amount of VT wrestling because I've followed Andonian for a while, extremely exciting wrestler. Andonian is way more fun to watch than Mekhi Lewis or Caleb Henson. If Andonian was a little more careful about being "willing to wrestle any position" he maybe has a natty or two. As it turns out he has none and Mekhi Lewis and Caleb Henson each have one. Hate to knock on Bryce but this argument is a perfect example of why he lost to Levi Haines in the quarters, he tried to stepover when he had no reason to, could've easily gotten a stalemate and stalled his way to the semis. (he also beat Levi the first time that was a pin)
And j.oliver had the td vs steiber.lol
 
He said that when he wrestled marcus he was sticking his legs out waiting for him to attack so he could wrestle him. He said it was frustrating that he couldn't get him to do much. Again, not my words, but a big ten coach.
I think after the 3 NCAA all Americans he had as an athlete and more as a coach, who in the heck would I be to question him. He did go on to say he might be shocked and the kid went on to win 4 NCAA titles.
Basically this coach is saying ...Marcus success isn't a high powered offense, it;s a positioning battle and a counter wrestling strategy. It's hard to disagree with that if you're honest with his success and why. I find it hard to believe some of these "older" guys he's edging out wins against couldn't force the issue more with under hooks, or forcing his head to the mat with an underhook and limit his counter offense with go behind attempts....Anyhow he might be the best 17 year old and 10 months ? to hold position and avoid getting scored upon . Yet 18 year Old Davino was able to do it? ONO as able to do it at Under 20? I find it very interesting....and before you Karens start the "ohhhhhh you cant disrespect Blaze like that!! Waaaaaaaaaa!" Blaze whatever his way of winning a lot against some of these top college guys is incredible at what he does. It will be interesting if that style will be as successful once he grows into a weight where his leverage wont be as advantageous against guys using that style. I understand what the coach is implying, sure it might work for Marcus at 149 against college guys that might be able to match him in positioning using strength and leverage we'll see. Even the shrug doesn't really bother me, I actually haven't seen it in a while .🤷‍♂️
 
Basically this coach is saying ...Marcus success isn't a high powered offense, it;s a positioning battle and a counter wrestling strategy. It's hard to disagree with that if you're honest with his success and why. I find it hard to believe some of these "older" guys he's edging out wins against couldn't force the issue more with under hooks, or forcing his head to the mat with an underhook and limit his counter offense with go behind attempts....Anyhow he might be the best 17 year old and 10 months ? to hold position and avoid getting scored upon . Yet 18 year Old Davino was able to do it? ONO as able to do it at Under 20? I find it very interesting....and before you Karens start the "ohhhhhh you cant disrespect Blaze like that!! Waaaaaaaaaa!" Blaze whatever his way of winning a lot against some of these top college guys is incredible at what he does. It will be interesting if that style will be as successful once he grows into a weight where his leverage wont be as advantageous against guys using that style. I understand what the coach is implying, sure it might work for Marcus at 149 against college guys that might be able to match him in positioning using strength and leverage we'll see. Even the shrug doesn't really bother me, I actually haven't seen it in a while .🤷‍♂️
"Marcus success isn't a high powered offense, it;s a positioning battle and a counter wrestling strategy"

......
.you've just described Kyle Dake.
 
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Basically this coach is saying ...Marcus success isn't a high powered offense, it;s a positioning battle and a counter wrestling strategy. It's hard to disagree with that if you're honest with his success and why. I find it hard to believe some of these "older" guys he's edging out wins against couldn't force the issue more with under hooks, or forcing his head to the mat with an underhook and limit his counter offense with go behind attempts....Anyhow he might be the best 17 year old and 10 months ? to hold position and avoid getting scored upon . Yet 18 year Old Davino was able to do it? ONO as able to do it at Under 20? I find it very interesting....and before you Karens start the "ohhhhhh you cant disrespect Blaze like that!! Waaaaaaaaaa!" Blaze whatever his way of winning a lot against some of these top college guys is incredible at what he does. It will be interesting if that style will be as successful once he grows into a weight where his leverage wont be as advantageous against guys using that style. I understand what the coach is implying, sure it might work for Marcus at 149 against college guys that might be able to match him in positioning using strength and leverage we'll see. Even the shrug doesn't really bother me, I actually haven't seen it in a while .🤷‍♂️
If Blaze can keep steady with his hips back at 149 like he did at 120 he will be incredible. It's usually a good sign if somebody is very successful at the lighter weights and moves up. (Steiber and Taylor for example)
 
All I can say is that I would loe to see Marcus at OSU. Jagger, Logan, and the current staff have shown they can develop talent. Now add Coleman, and let's try to hire Rei Higuchi to coach and train at the Ohio RTC. Marcus is homegrown, humble, and would be a great face for my favorite wrestling program.

But I'll root for Marcus wherever he goes. I think he'll grow into at least 149 by the time he finishes college.

I have nothing but respect for Marcus and all who have helped him along the way. Great work by all !!
Doesn't Higuchi have eligibility? Let's throw him at 125 see what happens. I bet he would be good at folk.
 
Basically this coach is saying ...Marcus success isn't a high powered offense, it;s a positioning battle and a counter wrestling strategy. It's hard to disagree with that if you're honest with his success and why. I find it hard to believe some of these "older" guys he's edging out wins against couldn't force the issue more with under hooks, or forcing his head to the mat with an underhook and limit his counter offense with go behind attempts....Anyhow he might be the best 17 year old and 10 months ? to hold position and avoid getting scored upon . Yet 18 year Old Davino was able to do it? ONO as able to do it at Under 20? I find it very interesting....and before you Karens start the "ohhhhhh you cant disrespect Blaze like that!! Waaaaaaaaaa!" Blaze whatever his way of winning a lot against some of these top college guys is incredible at what he does. It will be interesting if that style will be as successful once he grows into a weight where his leverage wont be as advantageous against guys using that style. I understand what the coach is implying, sure it might work for Marcus at 149 against college guys that might be able to match him in positioning using strength and leverage we'll see. Even the shrug doesn't really bother me, I actually haven't seen it in a while .🤷‍♂️
Davino beat Blaze on a coin flip essentially. The only points scored were escapes by both wrestlers. Blaze beat Davino 5-2 and 6-3 in Freestyle a few months later.
 
Davino beat Blaze on a coin flip essentially. The only points scored were escapes by both wrestlers. Blaze beat Davino 5-2 and 6-3 in Freestyle a few months later.
Correct yet Davino was the winner....as was Ono at under 20, who in fact did take Blaze down I believe. My point was these guys beat Marcus but Nashon Garret and Fix couldn't? FS is a different animal....but the common ground is if you can't get a TD you're not likely going to be able to score FS turns, Blaze is so good at blocking and position from neutral....the most surprising thing to me is besides him winning, Garret and Fix seem powerful ...why they wouldn't control the ties and get a TD is a head scratcher, I dont see him getting under hooked often. He's quick but there's quicker IMO. But now that I think about is Blaze hardly ever allows getting in tie up, he will slap hands away etc. thats the key to his defense, he might be one of those guys in college that has a ton of 1-3 point wins with guys ranked far below him...it will be interesting.
 
The same people that talk about how great positioning and the hand fighting are surely love the old heavyweight style and Greco
 
Marcus dictates position and keeps it towards his strengths. One can't argue with the results. And I do not find Marcus's matches to be boring. For old-timers, my comp would be Lee Kemp. Lee got a hard time about not scoring more points when he probably could have. But Lee's matches were artistic masterpieces. Even with a close score, rarely was Lee under a serious threat of losing.

I get the coach's point to a degree. He may be suggesting that Marcus may not fully develop if he simply relies on his currently dominant positions. But when wrestling for a spot on an Olympic or world team, the goal is to win and advance -- not develop. By securing his spot on those teams, Marcus will get to train with the best. I am sure he is working on developing new skills and more dominant positions within that training. I think he trains regularly at the Ohio RTC with Logan, Jags, Nic B., Jesse, et al. The live goes and spars are probably much more experimental than Macus's elimination tournament wrestling matches. Just my two cents.

Somebody on Flo speculated that Marcus has not yet committed because he won't be going to OSU and does not want to burn his ORTC training bridge too soon by committing elsewhere. I don't buy that for several reasons. Mainly, Marcus has out-developed the other super stars of his era (Luke, Jax, Bo Bassett, etc.) due in part to his training environment. Why would he not want to stay on that course? I don't think Kyle Snyder has improved since he went to PSU (even though his reason for going was for his wife's career more than his own, which is truly admirable and wise given that she is a doctor). Second, I don't think Logan, Coleman, et al. would throw Marcus out. For one, their wrestlers gain by training with Marcus. And also, with the transfer portal, etc., they would not want to burn a bridge with Marcus or the Burnetts..
 
PSU posters always have everyone committing to PSU until they don't.
Maybe "sometimes" but the best coach and program easily gets plenty. I could see Blaze liking Caels demeanor and how he goes about training his athletes, mentally and physically. And Blaze will be lucky to see 141 let alone 125 so Lilledahl is a non issue. Interesting wherever he goes if the brother follows, that may in fact help decide his college, call me crazy ut I dont see Purdue Blaze having a great shot at cracking that line up. I could see them both at TOSU possibly also. I'm betting he also knows where Bo Basset is headed to as well as Jax....all 3 of them could end up the same weight in college, which could help all 3 decide.
 
Maybe "sometimes" but the best coach and program easily gets plenty. I could see Blaze liking Caels demeanor and how he goes about training his athletes, mentally and physically. And Blaze will be lucky to see 141 let alone 125 so Lilledahl is a non issue. Interesting wherever he goes if the brother follows, that may in fact help decide his college, call me crazy ut I dont see Purdue Blaze having a great shot at cracking that line up. I could see them both at TOSU possibly also. I'm betting he also knows where Bo Basset is headed to as well as Jax....all 3 of them could end up the same weight in college, which could help all 3 decide.
Bo still has 18 schools to evaluate... Jax is tall he can put on some wieght, wouldn't be surprised if he ends up around 149+. Same with Bo 149 sems right, Blaze will be under that.
 
I'm not familiar with how much NIL is impacting wrestling, does OSU have some organization that works with the wrestling program similar to the football ones? I'd certainly chip in a few bucks to feel like I'm helping out in some way. Really hope Blaze chooses OSU. It's a much bigger win and loss for OSU in either way. It's not great for the sport to have PSU locking up team points during semi finals, would be wonderful just to see a multi team competitive tournament.
 
I'm not familiar with how much NIL is impacting wrestling, does OSU have some organization that works with the wrestling program similar to the football ones? I'd certainly chip in a few bucks to feel like I'm helping out in some way. Really hope Blaze chooses OSU. It's a much bigger win and loss for OSU in either way. It's not great for the sport to have PSU locking up team points during semi finals, would be wonderful just to see a multi team competitive tournament.
This is a great question for the Board. I have never heard of such an organization. As a Buckeye and Buckeye fan. I'd try to contribute, especailly to a Marcus Blaze fund.
I'm a multi-hundredaire too !! :banana::cool:
 
I'm not familiar with how much NIL is impacting wrestling, does OSU have some organization that works with the wrestling program similar to the football ones? I'd certainly chip in a few bucks to feel like I'm helping out in some way. Really hope Blaze chooses OSU. It's a much bigger win and loss for OSU in either way. It's not great for the sport to have PSU locking up team points during semi finals, would be wonderful just to see a multi team competitive tournament.

1870 Society helps with NIL for all programs. Just tell them who or what program you are donating to.

there are other also. One of the Schottenstein's has a OSU NIL program or just contact anyone connected to the Wrestling Program for direction. I know a couple of the big donors and they are very dedicated the program just needs more donations to keep up.
 
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He's also gotten older. Gilman looked much better after his move to Happy Valley as a contrasting point

Oh, I get it and I am NOT saying the reason he got worse is because he went there. But just something OSU can put out there.
By the way by most matrix's Snyder should now be in his prime. That doesn't seem to be the case for Kyle, unfortunately!
 
Didn't read through all the posts, so this may have been mentioned before. After seeing Marcus talk very highly about his HS coach Scott Burnett last weekend - can't overlook the influence Burnett could have on Marcus' college decision. Burnett(s) coached Stieber(s) at BTW in Norwalk. We know where Logan coaches. It would seem OSU has a bit of an inside track if those relationships have remained strong, and more importantly that Burnett feels Stieber would be better for his advancement as a wrestler than anyone at Penn State or UM (I would be shocked if any other school is still in consideration). Just more speculation being added. He has to be leaning heavily in one direction - or so it would seem. Even the rumors I am hearing from people that are affiliated with the P'burg wrestling club (The Hive) don't have anything to say other than "I have no idea where he is going" "He doesn't talk about it to anyone that I know of"
 
a friends kid just signed a full ride to a prominent college
his nil money is full tuition, room and board. 20k a year in cash. 2k for each point he scores at ncaa. 10k more for AA. 20k for finalist and 30k to win
 
This kid has to be the best our state has ever produced. I know Fried, Stiebers and a handful of others are normally debated as the best but IMO no more. Enjoy watching this kid, I am not convinced we will ever see anything like this again.
Absolutely, the best I have ever seen for sure and I don't even think it's close
 
I'm a huge Blaze fan (Burnett). I would definitely put him on the Ohio Mount Rushmore for sure. but I think you have to let this play out over the next 10 yrs or so to put the absolute seal on his name.
I also don't think if fair to Blaze. Let him finish before accolades. Imo
 
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