Jim Harbaugh

Cedar_Point said:
Didn’t they have a pedophile on the staff as well? That is just swept under the carpet.

When’s the last time Michigan had an OL drafted in the first round? OL university…give me a break
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Joe Moore award winning OL 2 years in a row, and should have been 3 last year. And if they aren't that good, then why does Michigan just run it down osu's throat at will. You are totally clueless. Your writing about OL University?.... give me a break, shows how clueless and not worth even messaging with. EVER! Bye Shemp. Time to block seeing your messages. I can't deal with your level of cluelessness.
 
bkmk1 said:
Joe Moore award winning OL 2 years in a row, and should have been 3 last year. And if they aren't that good, then why does Michigan just run it down osu's throat at will. You are totally clueless. Your writing about OL University?.... give me a break, shows how clueless and not worth even messaging with. EVER! Bye Shemp. Time to block seeing your messages. I can't deal with your level of cluelessness.
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Deuces. Loser

And it should be, “I can’t deal with someone stating the truth”
 
bkmk1 said:
It's very simple. Harbaugh inherited a staff of 60+ year old coaches that were ancient in their schemes and philosophies. He then fired them all and brought in the young coaches that related well to todays players as well as knew and coach the modern day game of football and brighter minds and could really develop players. Mike McDonald, then Jesse Minter, Sherrone Moore, Kirk Campbell, etc... They also brought in the Baltimore Ravens defense. And that turned the tide 3-4 years ago. And Michigan's coaching staff has been the best staff in the country once Harbaugh made the changes. Developed the best OL + DL in the country. Developed the most physical team in the country. Developed one of the best defenses in the country.
Michigan = physical - OL/DL University.
osu= soft - wr university.
CASE CLOSED!!
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Sure, Harbaugh did some good things. That is all you ever talk about. You have turned a blind eye to all the bad and illegal things, and the lying. Stalions is never mentioned in your posts. Totally in denial.
 
wolves82 said:
Sure, Harbaugh did some good things. That is all you ever talk about. You have turned a blind eye to all the bad and illegal things, and the lying. Stalions is never mentioned in your posts. Totally in denial.
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Stallions is the issue. To this day, there is ZERO proof that Harbaugh knew or was involved in whatever Stallions was doing. And that matters to me. If Harbaugh knew or was involved, then I will change my thinking about Harbaugh's character and integrity. But not until it is 100% proven. So I am not turning a blind eye to this. I could care less about the burger for a kid. I could care less about the petty BS the corrupt NCAA is accusing him of. They have hated him since he arrived in Ann Arbor. He set up satellite camps in SEC country and they whined so the NCAA banned them. He took his teams abroad for amzing experiences and bonding. They didn't like that. He is an advocate for players to get paid. And the NCAA HATES that and him. So there (IMO) is some part of this being a witch hunt they started. The only issue for me, is the Stallions mess.
 
bkmk1 said:
Stallions is the issue. To this day, there is ZERO proof that Harbaugh knew or was involved in whatever Stallions was doing. And that matters to me. If Harbaugh knew or was involved, then I will change my thinking about Harbaugh's character and integrity. But not until it is 100% proven. So I am not turning a blind eye to this. I could care less about the burger for a kid. I could care less about the petty BS the corrupt NCAA is accusing him of. They have hated him since he arrived in Ann Arbor. He set up satellite camps in SEC country and they whined so the NCAA banned them. He took his teams abroad for amzing experiences and bonding. They didn't like that. He is an advocate for players to get paid. And the NCAA HATES that and him. So there (IMO) is some part of this being a witch hunt they started. The only issue for me, is the Stallions mess.
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1. If he honestly did not know it's more proof how out of control the Michigan program was under Harbooger and that he was overall a poor leader and head coach to have such a scandal go on for so long undetected.
2. How long have you been using legal marijuana to fog your brain into a state of believing Harbooger really didn't know about the sign stealing?
 
MoeDude said:
1. If he honestly did not know it's more proof how out of control the Michigan program was under Harbooger and that he was overall a poor leader and head coach to have such a scandal go on for so long undetected.
2. How long have you been using legal marijuana to fog your brain into a state of believing Harbooger really didn't know about the sign stealing?
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You are just another whiny hurt suckeye fan that can't handle Michigan being on top of college football. The night they beat Bama and the night the won it all, you were probably just screaming at your tv in agony. Not to mention another loss to Michigan and just having to sit back and see the Wolverines basking as NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! It is time for you to seek professional help for your depression. I wish you the best.
 
bkmk1 said:
You are just another whiny hurt suckeye fan that can't handle Michigan being on top of college football. The night they beat Bama and the night the won it all, you were probably just screaming at your tv in agony. Not to mention another loss to Michigan and just having to sit back and see the Wolverines basking as NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! It is time for you to seek professional help for your depression. I wish you the best.
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It’s just fun getting in your head that you are OK with cheating as long as you win!
 
bkmk1 said:
Old news. Once the investigation on C. Stallions is over and the NCAA announces the findings, then we all know what happened. Right now there still is NO proof that Harbaugh was involved or knew anything about what stallions was up to. So like many osu fans that have made themselves into a judge and or jury overseeing a case, you are neither. Regarding Bo: 1). he had a winning record vs. osu. That's all that matters.
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This is a debate thread …. The idea is to give your opinion … mine is simple … there is no way Jim Harbaugh would stand next to a guy who has cards with all the signals from the opponent and call the plays out and he did not know where he got them … if he didn’t “know” was because he didn’t want to know … plausible deniability … you are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.
 
joesports said:
This is a debate thread …. The idea is to give your opinion … mine is simple … there is no way Jim Harbaugh would stand next to a guy who has cards with all the signals from the opponent and call the plays out and he did not know where he got them … if he didn’t “know” was because he didn’t want to know … plausible deniability … you are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.
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The debate is Harbaugh is a National Champion Coach. Day cruds himself rregardless if it's UM(Harbaugh or Moore), Alabama, Georgia, or Clemson
 
joesports said:
This is a debate thread …. The idea is to give your opinion … mine is simple … there is no way Jim Harbaugh would stand next to a guy who has cards with all the signals from the opponent and call the plays out and he did not know where he got them … if he didn’t “know” was because he didn’t want to know … plausible deniability … you are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.
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Thank you for your verdict Judge Judy. Maybe the NCAA will take your verdict into account. Keep up the good work.
 
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bkmk1 said:
Thank you for your verdict Judge Judy. Maybe the NCAA will take your verdict into account. Keep up the good work.
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So are you saying your great coach had no idea how the guy standing next to him got the info he was giving his players? … he was that clueless to what was going on? …. No deflection … just your opinion.
 
Maple_City_Fan said:
The debate is Harbaugh is a National Champion Coach. Day cruds himself rregardless if it's UM(Harbaugh or Moore), Alabama, Georgia, or Clemson
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Day’s first 5+ years at OSU … 56-8 … JH’s first 5+ years at UM … 49-22
Day bowl record during that time 2-5, JH 1-4
Day’s Big Ten Championship 1 … JH 0
Playoff appearances RD 2 JH 0
Record in OSU vs Michigan game RD 1-3 (not counting McChickening out in 2020) … JH 0-5

By any metric Ryan Day has been more successful in his first 5+ seasons at OSU than Harbaugh did at UM … and that was even though he had zero head coaching experience … and Jimbo had 10 years of HC experience
 
joesports said:
Day’s first 5+ years at OSU … 56-8 … JH’s first 5+ years at UM … 49-22
Day bowl record during that time 2-5, JH 1-4
Day’s Big Ten Championship 1 … JH 0
Playoff appearances RD 2 JH 0
Record in OSU vs Michigan game RD 1-3 (not counting McChickening out in 2020) … JH 0-5

By any metric Ryan Day has been more successful in his first 5+ seasons at OSU than Harbaugh did at UM … and that was even though he had zero head coaching experience … and Jimbo had 10 years of HC experience
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You’re now going get the Michigan Men saying Day was given the keys to a Lamborghini. Like that’s a bad thing or something 😂. They will totally disregard Day working his way up. They will say he was born on 3rd, even though Hairbaugh got his opportunities because of his dad.
 
joesports said:
So are you saying your great coach had no idea how the guy standing next to him got the info he was giving his players? … he was that clueless to what was going on? …. No deflection … just your opinion.
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My opinion is that there is an investigation that is not completed and has not been shared with anyone yet. So anything you, I, or anyone says, is speculation only. NOT FACTUAL. I hope that answers your question.
 
nutsnbolts said:
How so? What were his season records?
His first two years at scum he was 10-3.
Then the wheels started falling off, fans were calling for him to be fired, he took a salary cut, so he decided to start overt cheating.
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Key word is inherited...

Did you forget Dick Rod and Hoke?

I didn't

Harbaugh had UM competing right away

What UM did to Harbaugh was unjust. They didn't allow him to make necessary changes before salary hit. Which ended up firing old staff and hiring Baltimore personbel
 
Maple_City_Fan said:
Key word is inherited...

Did you forget Dick Rod and Hoke?

I didn't

Harbaugh had UM competing right away

What UM did to Harbaugh was unjust. They didn't allow him to make necessary changes before salary hit. Which ended up firing old staff and hiring Baltimore personbel
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Hoke had a winning record and was B10 coach of the year in 2011. Hardly a Gremlin, lol.
 
bkmk1 said:
It's very simple. Harbaugh inherited a staff of 60+ year old coaches that were ancient in their schemes and philosophies. He then fired them all and brought in the young coaches that related well to todays players as well as knew and coach the modern day game of football and brighter minds and could really develop players. Mike McDonald, then Jesse Minter, Sherrone Moore, Kirk Campbell, etc... They also brought in the Baltimore Ravens defense. And that turned the tide 3-4 years ago. And Michigan's coaching staff has been the best staff in the country once Harbaugh made the changes. Developed the best OL + DL in the country. Developed the most physical team in the country. Developed one of the best defenses in the country.
Michigan = physical - OL/DL University.
osu= soft - wr university.
CASE CLOSED!!
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I suppose you should know that JH’s first year at UM his top 4 coordinators were of the age, 46, 37, 52 and 39. You should also know that JH hired them all for his first season.
 
joesports said:
This is a debate thread …. The idea is to give your opinion … mine is simple … there is no way Jim Harbaugh would stand next to a guy who has cards with all the signals from the opponent and call the plays out and he did not know where he got them … if he didn’t “know” was because he didn’t want to know … plausible deniability … you are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.
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