Hubbard 2-3 at Niles 0-5

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The Eagles soar into Niles badly needing points in this week 6 matchup between conference foes. The Hubbard starting defense has been lights out only surrendering 14 points over the past 3 games. Howland had a defensive td vs the eagles last week. Edgewood scored on the freshmen. Sorry McKinley fans but this has to be the week (young team or not) that the Eagles offense gets back on track and lights up the score board. The secondary will be tested as Niles likes to throw but the return of #8 (transfer sit out) will give Hubbard a huge boost in both the secondary and receiving corps. Look to see Hubbards speed break out vs a poor defense. Eagles 42-14.
 
 
If Niles is healthy ( and Lakeview beat them up pretty good), they will give Hubbard trouble with the pass game. First team we played that actually had good receivers. Hubbard should win , but is vulnerable to the pass game. Niles was also vulnerable to the pass game and we exploited it. Hubbard is not a good passing team. Interesting match up but Hubbard will edge Niles.
 
I don’t know if he takes himself seriously ^


Hubbard wins this game. Niles will wear down. Lost a couple of key guys vs east two weeks ago including their #1 receiver.
 
Ouch. My prediction is based off expectation. To be honest Niles baffles me year in and out. Last year they had veterans everywhere. QB, receivers, lines, defense, and folded. Easily had the talent to be a playoff team last season. This year they have a capable QB, probably the second best RB in the conference behind #7 from Struthers, and I'm sure more talent elsewhere. Normally by now dragon fans are calling for the coaches head in multiple forums. Is Shaner untouchable for that one playoff year his first or second year as coach over there? I expect Hubbard to win based on a weak Niles defense combined with a good chance to outplay and out coach our opponent this week. As far as skill goes Niles is usually near the top. Even with a young line I think good coaching would have the Dragons around .500 this year. Crazy.
 
Seems like shaner has given up.

Or he knows his job is safe. Maybe he has something on the board.

I think they went to the playoffs his first year with that great class. They went like 8-2 or 7-3 that year I know they lost to struthers and Hubbard. And Hubbard again.

Since then they’ve been on again off again and it always seems by week 4-6 they are done. Really strange. They even lost to East, a program in a constant state of rebuilding.

This game will be huge for that young line in Hubbard. They will get some confidence. Niles linebackers aren’t the best either.
 
Dragons have good skill offensively, but there O line is a train wreck. Niles hasn't played defense since Moby Dick was a minnow.
 
To be fair spread, Niles always struggles with East. Lost the last 2 out of 3. Even in the Niles playoff year the had to come from behind by 3 TDs to best East.
 
East always has the talent to give teams trouble. I know Hubbards had a few close battles with the golden bears. Not to get off topic but did you guys start the season with 3 sophomores on the o line spread? And is Hall a junior or senior?
 
sportster4321 said:
East always has the talent to give teams trouble. I know Hubbards had a few close battles with the golden bears. Not to get off topic but did you guys start the season with 3 sophomores on the o line spread? And is Hall a junior or senior?
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Hall is a junior. And no. The all state senior center got hurt the first play of week 2.
3 sophomores. 1 junior who made his first start week 1 and 1 senior who is a 3 year starter.
 
Shame to hear about the center going down. Hall's pretty adequate and looks like he can make throws when need be. That'll be big not only this season but next year as well. Struthers this year kind of reminds me of 2012/2013 Hubbard. You're close. You guys will be able to line up and run Mitchell 30 times a game at will before you know it. Hall will be key come playoff time.
 
sportster4321 said:
Shame to hear about the center going down. Hall's pretty adequate and looks like he can make throws when need be. That'll be big not only this season but next year as well. Struthers this year kind of reminds me of 2012/2013 Hubbard. You're close. You guys will be able to line up and run Mitchell 30 times a game at will before you know it. Hall will be key come playoff time.
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Ya they got a really good sophomore class right now coming up that should be pretty good.
We’ll see. I’m excited to see how to cats do vs Poland.
 
The only way Hubbard loses this game is if Hoffman kicks the entire offense off the team for protesting the national anthem.... but that won't happen and Hubbard will have more of a breakout game offensively to gain some
Confidence and try some new things.

If niles doesn't fire shaner he has to have something over someone's head over there in Trumbull county
 
There were a couple niles fans on here, I woulda became uninterested in this site as long as shaner is there lol
 
sportster4321 said:
I expect Hubbard to win based on a weak Niles defense combined with a good chance to outplay and out coach our opponent this week. As far as skill goes Niles is usually near the top. Even with a young line I think good coaching would have the Dragons around .500 this year. Crazy.
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I always thought Hubbard/Niles could have been a perfect rivalry. It started to become one when Niles had Stefan Yuhasz as their duel threat QB and they ended up playing Hubbard twice that one year. I heard when the pairings came out and they found out they were playing Hubbard again, their whole team started cheering for another shot at the Eagles. They certainly have one of the nicest stadiums in the Valley. Hubbard and Niles both got turf the same year.

I wish Niles good luck, just not this Friday. :thumb:
 
Chance to even it up this year ....

Hubbard Eagles vs Niles McKinley Red Dragons



1919 Niles 67-0 Away 1st game in series
1927 Niles 29-12 Home
1928 Niles 32-0 Away
1929-1949 DNP
1950 Hubbard 19-18 Home
1951 Niles 25-0 Away
1952 Niles 40-6 Home
1953 Niles 40-0 Away
1954 Niles 40-0 Home
1955 Niles 32-0 Away
1956 Hubbard 19-13 Home
1957 TIE 7-7 Away
1958-1973 DNP
1974 Niles 35-6 Away
1975-1979 DNP
1980 Niles 15-8 Away Dedicated stadium to Bo Rein who died in plane crash in January 1980
1981 Hubbard 18-0 Away
1982-1983 DNP
1984 Hubbard 20-6 Away
1985 Niles 13-7 Away
1986 Niles 21-3 Away
1987 Niles 28-7 Home
1988 Niles 40-17 Away
1989 Niles 55-21 Home
1990-1994 DNP
1995 Niles 20-18 Away
1996 Hubbard 28-3 Home
1997-2007 DNP
2008 Hubbard 28-0 Home
2009 Hubbard 36-0 Away
2010 Hubbard 42-14 Home
2011 Hubbard 34-6 Away (played at Girard - Niles field was unplayable due to rain)
2012 Hubbard 43-14 Away
2012 Hubbard 39-27 (1st round of playoffs in D-III, Region #9 at #2 Niles)
2013 Hubbard 59-21 Home
2014 Hubbard 56-6 Home
2015 Hubbard 35-14 Away
2016 Hubbard 35-21 Home

Niles leads series 16-15-1 over 98 years.
Total points: Niles-703; Hubbard-623

Teams have played thirty-two times in 97 years.
Hubbard has won last ten in a row.
* Niles is averaging 22.3 points per game and Hubbard 18.4 thru 2015


NILES vs HUBBARD Trivia

*Largest margin of victory: 67, Niles won 67-0 in 1919
*Smallest margin of victory: 1, Hubbard won 19-18 in 1950
*Shutouts: Niles-six; Hubbard-three
*Most points combined in game: 80, Hubbard 59 – Niles 21 in 1919
*Least points combined in game: 14, Niles 7 – Hubbard 7 in 1957
*Longest winning streak: Hubbard –ten, 1996-present
Niles – six, 1985-1995
* Games played at Niles eighteen times and at Hubbard thirteen times
* Niles has a record of eleven wins, six losses and one tie at home
* Hubbard has a record of eight wins and five losses on their home turf

* In 1919, Leo Jennings led Niles to a victory in the first meeting between Hubbard and Niles
scoring 4 TDs
*In 1927, Niles captain Lukz had 28 of Niles 29 points. QB “Chike” DeVeto had a 20-yd fumble
return for one Hubbard TD, HB Match had a fumble pickup from his own team
and rumbled 90 yards for the TD.
* In 1950, Rod Wells of Hubbard passed for one TD and ran for another, and with the score
18-18 passed to Tom Landy for the extra point, downing the Dragons
* In 1951, Niles QB Sam Scarnecchia raced 42 yards for the first of four TDs vs. Hubbard
* In 1952, six Dragons scored a TD vs. Hubbard
* In 1953, once again six different Dragons scored a TD vs. Hubbard
* In 1954, Niles' Bob DeMont's three TDs led the Dragons over the Eagles
* In 1955, fourteen year old Hubbard QB Huey McBride threw a 22 yard strike to Bill Ruby late
in the fourth quarter to avoid a shutout
* In 1956, Huey McBride tossed three TDs in the second quarter to down the Dragons 19-13
* In 1957, Maurice Skiffey pulled in a 30 yard strike from Tony Perone and Sam Natoli
kicked the extra point as the Dragons and Eagles tie
*In 1974, Niles FB Mark Pallante scored three TD’s in the first half. Jerome Skruck had
Hubbard’s only score on a two-yd TD run.
*In 1980, Niles FB Mark Knepper and HB Bill Zurchar carried the attack scoring the two TD’s.
Hubbard’s score came on an 80-yd screen pass from QB Kurt Buck to
TB Alan Deal. Bruce Phibbs scored the two-point conversion.
* In 1981, Hubbard's Bruce Phibbs intercepted a pass and ran it back 95 yards
* In 1984, Hubbard's Mark Groff raced 80 yards for a TD. 45-min. delay at halftime
due to light failure.
* In 1986, T. C. Guarnieri's two TDs and 70 yards leads Niles past Hubbard
* In 1987, John DeFalco ran for 116 yards and two TDs as the Dragons down the Eagles 28-7
* In 1988, Niles QB Rick Leonard passed for 146 yards and one TD then ran for two TDs
in a 40-17 Dragon win. For Hubbard, QB Brad Smith 1-yd TD run, Randy Williams
23-yd FG and Sam Beil 77-yd pass from Brad Smith.
* In 1989, Dragon FB Ron Ritz runs wild picking up 345 yards and 6 TDs. Hubbard QB Brad
Smith throws TD passes of 52, 84 and 26, all to Bob Easton.
* In 1996, Hubbard QB Steve Valley passed for 178 yards and two TDs as the Eagles win 28-3.
For Niles, Chris Trudell kicks a 30-yd FG for their only points.
*In 2008, Hubbard RB Andre Givens rushed for 149 yds & two TD’s (69 & 29). Niles had
169 total yds.
*In 2009, Hubbard QB Mike Lopuchovsky returned an int. 75 yds for a TD, kicked a 24-yd FG
and 2-EP’s. Niles had just 75 total yds (73 passing and 2 rushing on 23 carries)
*In 2010, Hubbard QB Mike Lopuchovsky ran for two TD’s and passed for one, kicked four EP’s
*In 2011, Hubbard QB Ashton Owens was 12-17 and four TD’s, Fr. RB Larry Scott had 104 yds
rushing and two TD’s. Niles had 257 yds passing (Zach Bailey) and twelve yds
rushing.
*In 2012 (Reg. season), Hubbard RB Larry Scott had 152 yds rushing and one TD; Darnell Tate
rushed for 138 yds and three TD’s
*In 2012, (1st rd. of playoffs), Hubbard had four TD’s over 41 yds:LJ. Scott, 60-yd int. return;
Darnell Tate, 60-yd pass from Brandon Harb; Isaiah Scott, 44-yd pss from Harb; and LJ
Scott, 70-yd kickoff return. Niles QB Stefan Yuhas had two TD’s rushing and one passing
(58 yds to Chris Parry) 9-18-2 for 217 yds. LJ Scott rushed for 203 yds.on 23 carries.
*In 2013, LJ Scott rushed for 203 yds and three TD’s, George Hill had 81 yds and four TD’s,.
QB Brandan Wassil ran for two TD’s (50 & 29). Niles QB Kyle Paden was 26-43-2
for 270 yds and scored one TD rushing and one passing for nine yds to
Chris Parry.
*In 2014, For Hubbard LJ Scott rushed for 291 yds and three TD’s, QB Cam Ingram was 3-5-0
for 133 yds and three TD’s. Niles was outgained by Hubbard 569 yds (436 rushing)
to 70 yds (28-rushing, 42 passing)

*** Some info provided by NilesD … Thank you!! ***
 
Not much to talk about this year for Niles

Defense is bad as usual

And the offense isn’t much better this year

Niles is lacking playmakers... aside from Savin and Johns

I have a feeling they don’t win a game till week 9
 
roberto21 said:
chance to even it up this year ....

Hubbard eagles vs niles mckinley red dragons



1919 niles 67-0 away 1st game in series
1927 niles 29-12 home
1928 niles 32-0 away
1929-1949 dnp
1950 hubbard 19-18 home
1951 niles 25-0 away
1952 niles 40-6 home
1953 niles 40-0 away
1954 niles 40-0 home
1955 niles 32-0 away
1956 hubbard 19-13 home
1957 tie 7-7 away
1958-1973 dnp
1974 niles 35-6 away
1975-1979 dnp
1980 niles 15-8 away dedicated stadium to bo rein who died in plane crash in january 1980
1981 hubbard 18-0 away
1982-1983 dnp
1984 hubbard 20-6 away
1985 niles 13-7 away
1986 niles 21-3 away
1987 niles 28-7 home
1988 niles 40-17 away
1989 niles 55-21 home
1990-1994 dnp
1995 niles 20-18 away
1996 hubbard 28-3 home
1997-2007 dnp
2008 hubbard 28-0 home
2009 hubbard 36-0 away
2010 hubbard 42-14 home
2011 hubbard 34-6 away (played at girard - niles field was unplayable due to rain)
2012 hubbard 43-14 away
2012 hubbard 39-27 (1st round of playoffs in d-iii, region #9 at #2 niles)
2013 hubbard 59-21 home
2014 hubbard 56-6 home
2015 hubbard 35-14 away
2016 hubbard 35-21 home

niles leads series 16-15-1 over 98 years.
Total points: Niles-703; hubbard-623

teams have played thirty-two times in 97 years.
Hubbard has won last ten in a row.
* niles is averaging 22.3 points per game and hubbard 18.4 thru 2015


niles vs hubbard trivia

*largest margin of victory: 67, niles won 67-0 in 1919
*smallest margin of victory: 1, hubbard won 19-18 in 1950
*shutouts: Niles-six; hubbard-three
*most points combined in game: 80, hubbard 59 – niles 21 in 1919
*least points combined in game: 14, niles 7 – hubbard 7 in 1957
*longest winning streak: Hubbard –ten, 1996-present
niles – six, 1985-1995
* games played at niles eighteen times and at hubbard thirteen times
* niles has a record of eleven wins, six losses and one tie at home
* hubbard has a record of eight wins and five losses on their home turf

* in 1919, leo jennings led niles to a victory in the first meeting between hubbard and niles
scoring 4 tds
*in 1927, niles captain lukz had 28 of niles 29 points. Qb “chike” deveto had a 20-yd fumble
return for one hubbard td, hb match had a fumble pickup from his own team
and rumbled 90 yards for the td.
* in 1950, rod wells of hubbard passed for one td and ran for another, and with the score
18-18 passed to tom landy for the extra point, downing the dragons
* in 1951, niles qb sam scarnecchia raced 42 yards for the first of four tds vs. Hubbard
* in 1952, six dragons scored a td vs. Hubbard
* in 1953, once again six different dragons scored a td vs. Hubbard
* in 1954, niles' bob demont's three tds led the dragons over the eagles
* in 1955, fourteen year old hubbard qb huey mcbride threw a 22 yard strike to bill ruby late
in the fourth quarter to avoid a shutout
* in 1956, huey mcbride tossed three tds in the second quarter to down the dragons 19-13
* in 1957, maurice skiffey pulled in a 30 yard strike from tony perone and sam natoli
kicked the extra point as the dragons and eagles tie
*in 1974, niles fb mark pallante scored three td’s in the first half. Jerome skruck had
hubbard’s only score on a two-yd td run.
*in 1980, niles fb mark knepper and hb bill zurchar carried the attack scoring the two td’s.
Hubbard’s score came on an 80-yd screen pass from qb kurt buck to
tb alan deal. Bruce phibbs scored the two-point conversion.
* in 1981, hubbard's bruce phibbs intercepted a pass and ran it back 95 yards
* in 1984, hubbard's mark groff raced 80 yards for a td. 45-min. Delay at halftime
due to light failure.
* in 1986, t. C. Guarnieri's two tds and 70 yards leads niles past hubbard
* in 1987, john defalco ran for 116 yards and two tds as the dragons down the eagles 28-7
* in 1988, niles qb rick leonard passed for 146 yards and one td then ran for two tds
in a 40-17 dragon win. For hubbard, qb brad smith 1-yd td run, randy williams
23-yd fg and sam beil 77-yd pass from brad smith.
* in 1989, dragon fb ron ritz runs wild picking up 345 yards and 6 tds. Hubbard qb brad
smith throws td passes of 52, 84 and 26, all to bob easton.
* in 1996, hubbard qb steve valley passed for 178 yards and two tds as the eagles win 28-3.
For niles, chris trudell kicks a 30-yd fg for their only points.
*in 2008, hubbard rb andre givens rushed for 149 yds & two td’s (69 & 29). Niles had
169 total yds.
*in 2009, hubbard qb mike lopuchovsky returned an int. 75 yds for a td, kicked a 24-yd fg
and 2-ep’s. Niles had just 75 total yds (73 passing and 2 rushing on 23 carries)
*in 2010, hubbard qb mike lopuchovsky ran for two td’s and passed for one, kicked four ep’s
*in 2011, hubbard qb ashton owens was 12-17 and four td’s, fr. Rb larry scott had 104 yds
rushing and two td’s. Niles had 257 yds passing (zach bailey) and twelve yds
rushing.
*in 2012 (reg. Season), hubbard rb larry scott had 152 yds rushing and one td; darnell tate
rushed for 138 yds and three td’s
*in 2012, (1st rd. Of playoffs), hubbard had four td’s over 41 yds:lj. Scott, 60-yd int. Return;
darnell tate, 60-yd pass from brandon harb; isaiah scott, 44-yd pss from harb; and lj
scott, 70-yd kickoff return. Niles qb stefan yuhas had two td’s rushing and one passing
(58 yds to chris parry) 9-18-2 for 217 yds. Lj scott rushed for 203 yds.on 23 carries.
*in 2013, lj scott rushed for 203 yds and three td’s, george hill had 81 yds and four td’s,.
Qb brandan wassil ran for two td’s (50 & 29). Niles qb kyle paden was 26-43-2
for 270 yds and scored one td rushing and one passing for nine yds to
chris parry.
*in 2014, for hubbard lj scott rushed for 291 yds and three td’s, qb cam ingram was 3-5-0
for 133 yds and three td’s. Niles was outgained by hubbard 569 yds (436 rushing)
to 70 yds (28-rushing, 42 passing)

*** some info provided by nilesd … thank you!! ***
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great infothanks
 
Dawgpound31 said:
Not much to talk about this year for Niles

Defense is bad as usual

And the offense isn’t much better this year

Niles is lacking playmakers... aside from Savin and Johns

I have a feeling they don’t win a game till week 9
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savin has not had much room to run this year with nagging injury and with the line being young their QB soda has taking a beating. But both along with johns has put up decent numbers but hubbard gets the win here
 
The parents of the athletes are just as much to blame here

When parents put it in the kids heads that everything they do wrong is someones fault other then their own

Wheres the accountability ???

Whether the coaches are good or bad the players still have to perform on the field
 
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