How Many Months Until Michigan’s Title is Vacated?

How long until Michigan vacates its 2023 title?

  • Less than 4 months

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • More than 2 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .
Yet here you guys are still on a Michigan thread, talking about OUR Championship instead of enjoying your own. Is this an Ohio based site or a Michigan based site? Its hard to tell with so many Michigan threads on the College Football page.
 
Not even close. It's a lot easier to make a 12 team playoff than a 4 team. And teams like Indiana, Boise St. SMU, etc.. that had NO business making it- made it.
OSU didn’t play any of those teams, so that’s a completely irrelevant point.
And osu doesn't make a 4 team playoff either with 2 losses,
Doesn’t matter, they had a 12 team playoff, so your 0/2 on relevant points.
not good enough to play for their own conference championship
Neither was Alabama in 2017 or 2011. 0/3 on relevant points.
, and losing a game AT HOME as a 20+ point favorite.
Again, irrelevant to the playoffs. You aren’t very good at debating. 0-4. Just like Jim Harbaugh’s record vs. Urban Meyer.
It was 1000 times easier to make than a 4 team.
And yet Michigan wasn’t even the discussion for first four out. How embarrassing that Michigan wasn’t even in the discussion for the allegedly easiest and most watered down playoffs. If I were a Michigan fan, I wouldn’t be proud of not even being in the discussion for a shot at making the MOST WATERED DOWN COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EVER. But that’s just me.
And It was 1000 times more watered down. Then add in the pathetic seedings. IT WAS THE MOST WATERED DOWN COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF - EVER!!
Could you tell me the final rankings of the teams that the National Champions beat? Surely they must be all ranked outside the top 10 if it was a watered down playoff.
 
Bottom line: 12 is TOO many and everyone knows it’s a money grab only. Without 12, they are out. They were not good enough. And an asterisk for sure. I don't know for fact, but I would be curious if any team that had 2 losses, lost their last game at home as a 20+ point favorite, and wasn't good enough to even make their conference championship game ever won it. I would guess: no. That's because when you take the 4 best, you are getting the 4 best. When they expanded to 12 for the $$$, it became a watered down joke due to the number of teams that were undeserving.
Surely then since it’s so easy to get in, that Michigan was invited to the playoff and turned it down.

Right?
 
MUCH harder to make a 4 team playoff than a pathetic watered down 12 team. The suckeyes had a 0% chance of making the playoffs with a 4 team true playoff, not a watered down 12 team money grab.
MUCH harder to make a 2 team playoff than a pathetic watered down 4 team playoff. And Michigan made 0 playoffs with a 2 team true playoff, not a watered down 4 team money grab.
 
Michigan dodged NOTHING.
Well other than dodging Ohio State in 2020 so Harbaugh could keep his job and then implement a cheating scandal.
They beat the SEC champions (which was the best conference in the country that year.
No, the best conference in 2023 was the Pac12 or Big 10. SEC was a distant 3rd.
They beat the team that everyone said Michigan would not be able to stop (Washington):
Why were you saying Michigan wouldn’t be able to beat Washington? You didn’t have much faith in your team?
with the Joe Moore award winning OL, 1 of the top QB's in the country in M. Pennix, and 1 of the best WR core in the country, and was 14-0 that took down Oregon twice which many thought was the favorite.
No one in the country thought Washington and Oregon were the favorites in 2023.
Michigan's path was anything but easy.
It was one of the easiest paths in playoff history.
 
Now that is some delusional thinking. Bama beat Georgia on a neutral field in ATLANTA, GEORGIA. Bama EARNED the playoff spot - ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. Washington was 14-0 and beat Oregon twice, they also EARNED their playoff spot. Michigan beat the number 1 team in the SEC and the 14-0 Washington team that was picked as a team that had what it took to beat the powerful Wolverines. No dice! You are getting an education on what it means to "EARN" a playoff spot - grasshopper.
Still crying and living in the past. Sad to see.
 
You earn a playoff spot based on what you did the 12 games you play before they decide who get's in.
Ah, so you’re saying the Playoff committee decided that Ohio State did earn their playoff spot. I’m proud of you for finally being able to stop crying long enough you were able to compose yourself and say something sensical.
The suckeyes did NOTHING to earn a spot without expansion. 2 losses. Lost AT HOME as a 20+ point favorite to an unranked team in the LAST game of their season, not week 1, 2, or 3. They weren't even good enough to make their own conference title game. The money grab expansion is why they got in. Not their season's body of work. A true mickey mouse farce for sure.
Oh no, you immediately went back to crying.
 
Yet here you guys are still on a Michigan thread, talking about OUR Championship instead of enjoying your own. Is this an Ohio based site or a Michigan based site? Its hard to tell with so many Michigan threads on the College Football page.
Are you a Michigan fan or an Ohio State fan? It’s hard to tell with so many of your posts in the college football forum being about Ohio State.
 

My first clue that Buckeye Scoop is clueless was that they said showcases instead of show causes.

My second was when I remembered that it’s run by a guy who was Excommunicated from OSU’s program for paying walk on’s for practice info.

My final clue was that if Michigan was willing to forfeit a post season they’d have likely done it last season. Forfeiting a trip to the who cares bowl would have made a lot of sense.
 
My first clue that Buckeye Scoop is clueless was that they said showcases instead of show causes.

My second was when I remembered that it’s run by a guy who was Excommunicated from OSU’s program for paying walk on’s for practice info.

My final clue was that if Michigan was willing to forfeit a post season they’d have likely done it last season. Forfeiting a trip to the who cares bowl would have made a lot of sense.
If the penalties being held over their head were small, they would have already settled.
 
I think vacated wins are stupid … to me, the only thing I really want to happen … is that they (and I mean all of them) just have to admit they cheated and they all knew they were cheating … mighty Michigan (and their coaches/Harbaugh) knew what they were doing was wrong and did it anyway!
 
My first clue that Buckeye Scoop is clueless was that they said showcases instead of show causes.

My second was when I remembered that it’s run by a guy who was Excommunicated from OSU’s program for paying walk on’s for practice info.

My final clue was that if Michigan was willing to forfeit a post season they’d have likely done it last season. Forfeiting a trip to the who cares bowl would have made a lot of sense.
It is 100% FAKE garbage!
 
Michigan cheating, or those reports?
I was only commenting on the report. It is FAKE!!. I have made my point VERY clear: I don't give a rats arzz if they stole signs. Compared to the scandals and corruptness of coaches everywhere, that is NOTHING. And the 2023 Wolverines were easily the best team in college football. And they EARNED the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!! Way too much talent, physicality, determination, etc... than every team in the 2023 season and playoffs.
 
I was only commenting on the report. It is FAKE!!. I have made my point VERY clear: I don't give a rats arzz if they stole signs. Compared to the scandals and corruptness of coaches everywhere, that is NOTHING. And the 2023 Wolverines were easily the best team in college football. And they EARNED the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!! Way too much talent, physicality, determination, etc... than every team in the 2023 season and playoffs.
If the cheating scandal was uncovered during the 2022 season, how many of those talented, physical and determined players would have come back for the 2023 season? Harbaugh and his coaching staff would have jumped ship before the 2023 season.
 
My first clue that Buckeye Scoop is clueless was that they said showcases instead of show causes.

My second was when I remembered that it’s run by a guy who was Excommunicated from OSU’s program for paying walk on’s for practice info.

My final clue was that if Michigan was willing to forfeit a post season they’d have likely done it last season. Forfeiting a trip to the who cares bowl would have made a lot of sense.
Buckeye Scoop is mostly a scam, yes so you’re right to take this with a massive grain of salt. But they still have contacts inside the WHAC and have been oddly accurate when reporting on Michigan re: Stallions and all that entails.
 
If the cheating scandal was uncovered during the 2022 season, how many of those talented, physical and determined players would have come back for the 2023 season? Harbaugh and his coaching staff would have jumped ship before the 2023 season.
If this, if that.... The Wolverines were winning the Natty the second they lost the year before to TCU. That set everything in motion for them all to return for 1 reason. WIN the Natty. And they DID!! Michigan TEAM 144 was special. JJ McCarthy was 27-1 in his Michigan career. The only game he lost was to TCU. And that was with NO Blake Corum. JJ and Blake were 27-0 as Wolverines. If the NCAA doesn't expand to 12, do the suckeyes even make the playoffs? NO!. If this, if that.. Michigan won the 2023 National Championship. That case is closed for me. Go Blue!!
 
Buckeye Scoop is mostly a scam, yes so you’re right to take this with a massive grain of salt. But they still have contacts inside the WHAC and have been oddly accurate when reporting on Michigan re: Stallions and all that entails.

When they’ve been on they’ve been on but when they are off they aren’t even the ball park. Tells me that they have some marginal sources but do plenty of filling in the blanks.

FWIW this got pretty much zero traction within the Michigan media sphere.
 
FWIW this got pretty much zero traction within the Michigan media sphere.
The Michigan Media sphere has been telling their customers no punishment will come other than a slap on the wrist, so similar to your skepticism on Buckeye Scoop, im not sure this means a whole lot to me.

Agreed on the first part of your post though.
 
The Michigan Media sphere has been telling their customers no punishment will come other than a slap on the wrist, so similar to your skepticism on Buckeye Scoop, im not sure this means a whole lot to me.

Agreed on the first part of your post though.

They also typically only respond to stories they consider credible. The fact no one chose to respond tells me a lot about veracity.
 
They also typically only respond to stories they consider credible. The fact no one chose to respond tells me a lot about veracity.
It’s my understanding that it’s partly because Michigan has been legally delaying FOIA requests. NCAA is incredibly tight lipped on all investigations and isn’t subject to FOIA requests.

I have noticed a lack of “credible” coverage on this despite the long standing investigation but I assumed it was me being too close as an Ohio State fan and Michigan hater.
 
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