GMC 23-24

Not going to attempt a ranking because I haven’t seen everybody and a lot of teams seem pretty even, but here are my thoughts on each team:

Colerain: Not going to win a game in the league and they’re getting absolutely drilled.
Fairfield: Rough start to the year but the pieces are there. Need to figure out how everything fits together and need the big guy to improve.
Hamilton: Still don’t think they’re that talented but it does seem like they are competitive. Nice win last night.
Lakota East: Perry is really good but they don’t have a lot else. Sounds like they are not as good as a typical Adkins team on defense.
Lakota West: Good talent and depth, but it’s young. Need to figure out roles too and I think they need to put the ball in the freshman Tyson’s hands a lot more. Likely will have a few nice wins along with some head-scratching losses.
Mason: Diverging more and more from the Richards teams every year. Don’t play good defense and are very trigger happy on offense and also lack depth. I don’t think they’re going to win that many this year.
Middletown: Off to a good start but have had a weak schedule. Returned a good core from last year and I think Landers is a stud. 6-9 and 6-10 on the inside too. Heard nothing but good things about Bill Jr. as a coach.
Oak Hills: A couple players stepping up early that I know more for their baseball rather than basketball. Still don’t think they’re that talented but Price is a good coach and they can play physical.
Princeton: Literally 3 guys who would be starting (including their 2 best players) are out injured and it’s not optimistic that any of them are going to make it back this year. As a result, they don’t have the depth to play that pressure man-to-man that has suffocated opponents the last few years.
Sycamore: Burgess has improved immensely and can do it all. Rest of team are more athletes than basketball players, but they know their roles and feed Burgess. Great defensive team. Can definitely beat anybody in Cincinnati if they play well.
 
JBaller said:
Not going to attempt a ranking because I haven’t seen everybody and a lot of teams seem pretty even, but here are my thoughts on each team:

Colerain: Not going to win a game in the league and they’re getting absolutely drilled.
Fairfield: Rough start to the year but the pieces are there. Need to figure out how everything fits together and need the big guy to improve.
Hamilton: Still don’t think they’re that talented but it does seem like they are competitive. Nice win last night.
Lakota East: Perry is really good but they don’t have a lot else. Sounds like they are not as good as a typical Adkins team on defense.
Lakota West: Good talent and depth, but it’s young. Need to figure out roles too and I think they need to put the ball in the freshman Tyson’s hands a lot more. Likely will have a few nice wins along with some head-scratching losses.
Mason: Diverging more and more from the Richards teams every year. Don’t play good defense and are very trigger happy on offense and also lack depth. I don’t think they’re going to win that many this year.
Middletown: Off to a good start but have had a weak schedule. Returned a good core from last year and I think Landers is a stud. 6-9 and 6-10 on the inside too. Heard nothing but good things about Bill Jr. as a coach.
Oak Hills: A couple players stepping up early that I know more for their baseball rather than basketball. Still don’t think they’re that talented but Price is a good coach and they can play physical.
Princeton: Literally 3 guys who would be starting (including their 2 best players) are out injured and it’s not optimistic that any of them are going to make it back this year. As a result, they don’t have the depth to play that pressure man-to-man that has suffocated opponents the last few years.
Sycamore: Burgess has improved immensely and can do it all. Rest of team are more athletes than basketball players, but they know their roles and feed Burgess. Great defensive team. Can definitely beat anybody in Cincinnati if they play well.
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I haven't seen every team, but from what I have seen live and streaming and from looking at box scores, this analysis feels a lot closer to what is probably reality for the league over the last person's take. No offense to that poster.
 
oxat622 said:
Don't think I've ever seen this from a high school team. Throwback/heritage edition jerseys. Princeton playing in Lincoln Heights jerseys tonight.

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Philly_Cat said:
I haven't seen every team, but from what I have seen live and streaming and from looking at box scores, this analysis feels a lot closer to what is probably reality for the league over the last person's take. No offense to that poster.
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Against Mason, Burgess may have had the local line of the night to date across all leagues: 24 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists in 24 minutes.
 
Vet Observer said:
Against Mason, Burgess may have had the local line of the night to date across all leagues: 24 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists in 24 minutes.
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*It was 17 rebounds. 10 offensive rebounds. Also had 24 points, 12 rebounds, 8 blocks against Fairfield. Also is their high post outlet on offense, helps bring the ball up court against the press, and can stay with guards when switching on a pick-and-roll. He's incredible. Best player in school history. He's going to do very well at Purdue.
 
JBaller said:
*It was 17 rebounds. 10 offensive rebounds. Also had 24 points, 12 rebounds, 8 blocks against Fairfield. Also is their high post outlet on offense, helps bring the ball up court against the press, and can stay with guards when switching on a pick-and-roll. He's incredible. Best player in school history. He's going to do very well at Purdue.
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I stand corrected on the rebounds vs. Mason. TY.
 
JBaller said:
*It was 17 rebounds. 10 offensive rebounds. Also had 24 points, 12 rebounds, 8 blocks against Fairfield. Also is their high post outlet on offense, helps bring the ball up court against the press, and can stay with guards when switching on a pick-and-roll. He's incredible. Best player in school history. He's going to do very well at Purdue.
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he's the main reason sycamore can defend so well. most dudes can keep their man in front of them pretty well but they can pressure outside even more and not worry about getting beat because Raleigh will either block or alter 90% of the shots of dudes who get to the rim. it's a nice security blanket for the other guys when they defend on the perimeter.
 
Burgess has been a monster so far. Would love to see a Burgess/McKinley match-up in the playoffs. Sycamore is the front-runner for sure.

Not sure what has happened to Mason the past couple of weeks, I was dead wrong about them. As for Oak Hills, they have had some guys step up and I still think they will make some noise. They're not going to win the league, but will continue to get better. They have 3-4 nice pieces to work with and kids are coming into their own.

I hope MTown continues their success. Would be nice to have some new entrants near the top to keep things interesting. I'm surprised Fairfield and Mason have been this average.
 
Doublehelix said:
Burgess has been a monster so far. Would love to see a Burgess/McKinley match-up in the playoffs. Sycamore is the front-runner for sure.

Not sure what has happened to Mason the past couple of weeks, I was dead wrong about them. As for Oak Hills, they have had some guys step up and I still think they will make some noise. They're not going to win the league, but will continue to get better. They have 3-4 nice pieces to work with and kids are coming into their own.

I hope MTown continues their success. Would be nice to have some new entrants near the top to keep things interesting. I'm surprised Fairfield and Mason have been this average.
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Mason missing 3 starters from last year--Hanley, Koelling (baseball focused) and Greer (hurt in football)----these were huge losses for the Comets to have a winning season--missing 16 points from the lineup from last year from those 3 (and surely those #'s would've improved this season)---- they'll play hard with DeBrosse and Menker, but don't have the depth and firepower in 2023-24. Could be a 7-9th place GMC finish this year unfortunately.
 
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Doublehelix said:
Burgess has been a monster so far. Would love to see a Burgess/McKinley match-up in the playoffs. Sycamore is the front-runner for sure.

Not sure what has happened to Mason the past couple of weeks, I was dead wrong about them. As for Oak Hills, they have had some guys step up and I still think they will make some noise. They're not going to win the league, but will continue to get better. They have 3-4 nice pieces to work with and kids are coming into their own.

I hope MTown continues their success. Would be nice to have some new entrants near the top to keep things interesting. I'm surprised Fairfield and Mason have been this average.
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Have to agree Burgess has seemed very dominant. It would be an interesting matchup. From what I’ve seen of McKinley so far this season, I’m not very impressed. I don’t think WW is a very good team right now.
 
Vet Observer said:
There went Lincoln Heights' winning streak. In its last year of existence (I think it was 1970), Lincoln Heights won the small school (Class A) state championship in both basketball and baseball.
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Also won the State in the 880 Relay in Track. Would have competed for the State in Football too if the playoff system existed. Had to be one of if not the most athletic group of guys in Greater Cinti history. Any other schools with championships in more than 2 sports in the same year?
 
CometCountry said:
Mason missing 3 starters from last year--Hanley, Koelling (baseball focused) and Greer (hurt in football)----these were huge losses for the Comets to have a winning season--they'll fight hard with DeBrosse and Menker but don't have the depth and firepower in 2023-24. Could be a 7-9th place GMC finish this year unfortunately.
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It's the same thing with Mason and Princeton both. 3 starting caliber players choose not to play (Mason) or are hurt (Princeton), and all of a sudden, you have players in roles beyond where they should be and players coming off the bench who should be playing JV. Massive, massive difference if each program had the 3 guys they are missing. Mason would probably be a top 3-4 team in the league for sure (instead, I think they're 8th or 9th best) and Princeton would probably be the best team in the league and maybe the city (instead they're probably the 4th or 5th best GMC team). Everybody forgets, Princeton also had Jaiden Arnold transfer to Aiken, and he currently has D1 offers as a junior. Imagine Princeton's lineup with everyone healthy:

Starters:
6'0" Jaiden Arnold
6'0" Cliff Cass
6'4" Brendan Braddix
6'4" Dorian Williams
6'5" Kieran Granville-Britten

Bench:
5'10" David Steel
5'11" Rognny Santiago Lugo
6'4" Landon Miree
6'6" Daniel Jones

That lineup would be 32 minutes of h*ll to play against with their pressure and having to guard that. Instead, Princeton doesn't have as much depth to play pressure and teams only have to worry about Braddix and Lugo offensively.
 
JBaller said:
It's the same thing with Mason and Princeton both. 3 starting caliber players choose not to play (Mason) or are hurt (Princeton), and all of a sudden, you have players in roles beyond where they should be and players coming off the bench who should be playing JV. Massive, massive difference if each program had the 3 guys they are missing. Mason would probably be a top 3-4 team in the league for sure (instead, I think they're 8th or 9th best) and Princeton would probably be the best team in the league and maybe the city (instead they're probably the 4th or 5th best GMC team). Everybody forgets, Princeton also had Jaiden Arnold transfer to Aiken, and he currently has D1 offers as a junior. Imagine Princeton's lineup with everyone healthy:

Starters:
6'0" Jaiden Arnold
6'0" Cliff Cass
6'4" Brendan Braddix
6'4" Dorian Williams
6'5" Kieran Granville-Britten

Bench:
5'10" David Steel
5'11" Rognny Santiago Lugo
6'4" Landon Miree
6'6" Daniel Jones

That lineup would be 32 minutes of h*ll to play against with their pressure and having to guard that. Instead, Princeton doesn't have as much depth to play pressure and teams only have to worry about Braddix and Lugo offensively.
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Funny how things workout. Heard Arnold transferred because of the lack of freedom from coach. Of course things probably would have been different if he stayed but with the current injury of Cass, seems like he might have had that freedom this year…hope Aiken works out for him. Looks like he’s come off the bench at least one game so far but still looking productive stat wise. Don’t think it’s ever a good idea to transfer from GMC to CMAC in regard to recruiting though. Unfortunate that Princeton is down such key pieces right now. With their new additions it definitely seems like they would have been top 3 in the city right now and all season.
 
Doublehelix said:
Burgess has been a monster so far. Would love to see a Burgess/McKinley match-up in the playoffs. Sycamore is the front-runner for sure.

Not sure what has happened to Mason the past couple of weeks, I was dead wrong about them. As for Oak Hills, they have had some guys step up and I still think they will make some noise. They're not going to win the league, but will continue to get better. They have 3-4 nice pieces to work with and kids are coming into their own.

I hope MTown continues their success. Would be nice to have some new entrants near the top to keep things interesting. I'm surprised Fairfield and Mason have been this average.
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Maybe you overreacted to Mason's 80-59 win over Taft to start the season Subsequent results indicate Taft isn't as good as it was or was expected to be.
 
Enjoy reading all of the comments about the winning teams. Question, what does colerain need to do to attract better players?
 
Watching Middletown/Hamilton. Can't remember who is Hamilton HC? Physical defensive battle so far. 3-0 Middes 3 mins left in the 1st.
 
PeterDragon said:
Watching Middletown/Hamilton. Can't remember who is Hamilton HC? Physical defensive battle so far. 3-0 Middes 3 mins left in the 1st.
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Kevin Higgins. Had a very successful run at Colerain previously. Was most recently at Lebanon. Think this is 3rd year at Hamilton.
 
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