Found This Fandom Map And

EagleGuy

EagleGuy

Well-known member
found it interesting. Some of the things I found interesting: Indians nation* is confined almost completely to NEO. Yet, not as confined as Mets nation (Queens) and A's nation (Oakland). As one Reddit (source) poster noted, the White Sox and Angels have no nation. Oops! Comments?

*Yes, somewhat dated map.

1691450137567.png
 
Last edited:
 
That’s because the White Sox are a non-entity in Chicago. They don’t move the needle at all. Heck, they won the WS in 2005 and nobody cared. The Cubs won in 2016 and you would think World War 2 ended again with that celebration.

The Angels have a strong following in Orange County, but that’s it.

I like how the Guardians get that one county in PA in the middle of Pirates territory.
 
cjb5656 said:
That’s because the White Sox are a non-entity in Chicago. They don’t move the needle at all. Heck, they won the WS in 2005 and nobody cared. The Cubs won in 2016 and you would think World War 2 ended again with that celebration.

The Angels have a strong following in Orange County, but that’s it.

I like how the Guardians get that one county in PA in the middle of Pirates territory.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I found that odd. What county is that?
 
cjb5656 said:
That’s because the White Sox are a non-entity in Chicago. They don’t move the needle at all. Heck, they won the WS in 2005 and nobody cared. The Cubs won in 2016 and you would think World War 2 ended again with that celebration.
Click to expand...
The White Sox don’t move the needle in the national media, but they have a solid, loyal fanbase and get plenty of local coverage. The Cubs have more fans because of Wrigley Field, the north side location, the Wrigleyville party atmosphere, and the past WGN deal where their games were shown nationally.

I was there when the Sox won in 2005 and two million people were in downtown Chicago for the parade. It was, however briefly, a Sox town for at least a couple years. The crippling mismanagement by Jerry Reinsdorf, Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn over the past dozen years has chipped away at the fanbase and undoubtedly done damage, but there are still plenty of Sox fans out there. It’s just never going to get the national attention the Cubs get — hardly anyone does.
 
AEW Champion said:
The White Sox don’t move the needle in the national media, but they have a solid, loyal fanbase and get plenty of local coverage. The Cubs have more fans because of Wrigley Field, the north side location, the Wrigleyville party atmosphere, and the past WGN deal where their games were shown nationally.

I was there when the Sox won in 2005 and two million people were in downtown Chicago for the parade. It was, however briefly, a Sox town for at least a couple years. The crippling mismanagement by Jerry Reinsdorf, Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn over the past dozen years has chipped away at the fanbase and undoubtedly done damage, but there are still plenty of Sox fans out there. It’s just never going to get the national attention the Cubs get — hardly anyone does.
Click to expand...
They are the team of Chicago’s working class. The south side folks and the folks living in the tough cities of northern Indiana.
 
Irwin20 said:
Yeah, I found that odd. What county is that?
Click to expand...
That's Mercer County right over the border from the Youngstown-Warren area. All the Ohioans pouring over the borders to shop at the outlet stores in the '80s and '90s must've gotten the locals hooked on the Tribe. Saw tons of commercials for those stores as a kid.

Does PA still not have a sales tax on clothing?
 
MitSulHer said:
Des Moines IA is def Cubs country. I believe the Cubs AAA team is there.
Click to expand...
I thought the Cubs had more of a footprint in Iowa for that reason. Their AAA affiliate has been there for a very long time.

I was also surprised to see the Orioles' footprint extend so far into south central PA. I can also see why Orioles owner Peter Angelos was so opposed to the Expos moving to D.C. to the point that MLB made some concessions to appease him. A lot of that Nationals' footprint would be in favor of the Orioles, especially the wealthy counties in the D.C. metro area.

The other puzzlers to me: Any counties in the U.S. favoring the Blue Jays, let alone the couple in northern PA. The 2 counties in TX and 1 in NM that go for the D'backs but are non-contiguous to the rest of the D'backs footprint. That lone county in northern MS south of Memphis that favors the Braves.
 
Last edited:
When I look at this map, I wonder what the map of Tennessee, specifically the Nashville area, might have looked like as the decades have gone by. Was it ever Reds country down there or was it always Braves territory with a sprinkling of Cardinals?
 
Mr. Slippery said:
That's Mercer County right over the border from the Youngstown-Warren area. All the Ohioans pouring over the borders to shop at the outlet stores in the '80s and '90s must've gotten the locals hooked on the Tribe. Saw tons of commercials for those stores as a kid.

Does PA still not have a sales tax on clothing?
Click to expand...
Last I heard they do not.
 
AEW Champion said:
When I look at this map, I wonder what the map of Tennessee, specifically the Nashville area, might have looked like as the decades have gone by. Was it ever Reds country down there or was it always Braves territory with a sprinkling of Cardinals?
Click to expand...
Good question. The Braves didn't leave Milwaukee until 1966 (same year the NFL established the Falcons and Saints, IIRC), so the Southeast was wide open for a long time.
 
AEW Champion said:
When I look at this map, I wonder what the map of Tennessee, specifically the Nashville area, might have looked like as the decades have gone by. Was it ever Reds country down there or was it always Braves territory with a sprinkling of Cardinals?
Click to expand...
Yes, Tennessee was mostly Reds country until the TBS cable TV thing started growing the Braves fanbase in the 80's. I remember when I was young the Reds caravan always had stops in Knoxville and Nashville.
 
Although it was 30+ years ago, when I was at Ohio State it was striking how the fans were split. Seemed almost everyone was a Reds fan for baseball and a Browns fan for football. Never could quite figure that out.
 
AEW Champion said:
When I look at this map, I wonder what the map of Tennessee, specifically the Nashville area, might have looked like as the decades have gone by. Was it ever Reds country down there or was it always Braves territory with a sprinkling of Cardinals?
Click to expand...
A ton of the really old timers…not many left…anywhere remotely west of the Mississippi, or even an area like Nashville, were Cardinals fans. They were the farthest west team until the Giants and Dodgers bolted for the west coast at the end of the 1950s.

The Superstation WTBS was a genius move by Ted Turner to show every Braves game nationwide. It made Braves fans from places coast to coast that really had no nearby MLB team. WGN had a similar effect with the Cubs, though not as dramatic. WOR did the Mets that way, but it didn’t resonate in other places like the Braves and Cubs.
 
wolves82 said:
Yes, Tennessee was mostly Reds country until the TBS cable TV thing started growing the Braves fanbase in the 80's. I remember when I was young the Reds caravan always had stops in Knoxville and Nashville.
Click to expand...
This is correct. The Reds were very good about maintaining a presence in TN in the old days, but yes…most of TN is Braves now.
 
Yappi said:
Although it was 30+ years ago, when I was at Ohio State it was striking how the fans were split. Seemed almost everyone was a Reds fan for baseball and a Browns fan for football. Never could quite figure that out.
Click to expand...
That is me, to this date. I was born in 1961 and lived near Columbus. Started following sports in 1968. I loved the Browns (the Bengals did not exist yet). I also loved the Reds, and could hear WLW on the radio. I've stuck with my teams, and taught my kids to do the same. So the trend endures...
 
cjb5656 said:
A ton of the really old timers…not many left…anywhere remotely west of the Mississippi, or even an area like Nashville, were Cardinals fans. They were the farthest west team until the Giants and Dodgers bolted for the west coast at the end of the 1950s.

The Superstation WTBS was a genius move by Ted Turner to show every Braves game nationwide. It made Braves fans from places coast to coast that really had no nearby MLB team. WGN had a similar effect with the Cubs, though not as dramatic. WOR did the Mets that way, but it didn’t resonate in other places like the Braves and Cubs.
Click to expand...
Ted Turner himself said TBS was built on 3 things: The Andy Griffith Show, pro wrestling, and the Atlanta Braves.
 
Yappi said:
Although it was 30+ years ago, when I was at Ohio State it was striking how the fans were split. Seemed almost everyone was a Reds fan for baseball and a Browns fan for football. Never could quite figure that out.
Click to expand...
The Browns had a huge headstart in many Ohio households with kids of your generation watching whatever team their fathers watched. The Bengals didn't start playing until the late '60s, and even then, they began in the AFL which was perceived as the inferior league until Super Bowl III happened.
 
wolves82 said:
That is me, to this date. I was born in 1961 and lived near Columbus. Started following sports in 1968. I loved the Browns (the Bengals did not exist yet). I also loved the Reds, and could hear WLW on the radio. I've stuck with my teams, and taught my kids to do the same. So the trend endures...
Click to expand...
In the topic of WLW, I remember reading they had one of the strongest radio signals way back in the day and as such people would get Reds games on the radio in areas you wouldn’t think Reds fandom would reach. Another team might be closer but people cheered for the reds because that’s all they could catch.
 
I listened to all the Indians games back in the 80s. The first game the Indians played while I was at Ohio State, I listened to the game on an AM radio station out of Texas. Couldn't pickup any Cleveland stations and Columbus didn't have any stations that carried the Indians.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top