trimblefootball
Region 27's most hated guest caller
Sue is on life support with that golf cart
Sue is on life support with that golf cart
Freedom of Speech still lives until then.Sue is on life support with that golf cart
Unfortunately your right. With Shadyside and Newark Catholic down, it isn't as strong as it has been in years past. Now I feel like it's Danville and Trimble, and everyone else at this point.This region is just not very good. I think my grandma on a motorized scooter could go for 300 up the middle against most these teams. Only two teams worth talking about and those two teams have a combined 2 posters, no wonder this forum is dead :/
I knew Northmor returned a lot from last year when we played them in the playoffs. The Golden Knights are for real. Good luck to the Blue devils the rest of the season. We played terrible last night.Danville ran into a buzz saw tonight. No excuses.
Northmor was clearly the better team. They were able to use "their dudes" to exploit some weaknesses. Not sure anyone in r27 can do that.
Back to the season grind while most everyone else plays Sister Mary slap dick.
Yes.Grove City Christian 26
Miller 0
I knew I wasn't sold on Miller for a reason.
South Gallia 36
Notre Dame 8
Rebels now 4-2 with a favorable last half of the schedule remaining.
Trimble 35
Southern 13
Tomcats 35th straight win over Southern. Southern hasn't beat us since 1973.
Danville 22
Loudonville 0
Was it a monsoon up there?
Bishop Rosecrans 35
Fisher Catholic 18
Non region game
Waterford 22
Eastern 19
@The Dock, Eastern was up 19-7 at half. I say the Wildcats bareassed them in the 2nd half
I can’t believe what Waterford is achieving this year. Even if it requires the help of Farmer Yoder in the white hat versus da BuckeyesGrove City Christian 26
Miller 0
I knew I wasn't sold on Miller for a reason.
South Gallia 36
Notre Dame 8
Rebels now 4-2 with a favorable last half of the schedule remaining.
Trimble 35
Southern 13
Tomcats 35th straight win over Southern. Southern hasn't beat us since 1973.
Danville 22
Loudonville 0
Was it a monsoon up there?
Bishop Rosecrans 35
Fisher Catholic 18
Non region game
Waterford 22
Eastern 19
@The Dock, Eastern was up 19-7 at half. I say the Wildcats bareassed them in the 2nd half
I looked it up after I posted this. Wasn't EK game a mud pit last year too?Yes.
Poured rain whole 1st half. Mud pit.
Both sides at the Southern/Trimble game were happy with the final of that game. Iggles get Wahama next weekI can’t believe what Waterford is achieving this year. Even if it requires the help of Farmer Yoder in the white hat versus da Buckeyes
I didn’t even know they were playing Whoa Mama. Thought the only Mason County school they’d schedule was Hannah?Both sides at the Southern/Trimble game were happy with the final of that game. Iggles get Wahama next week
They get to make a trip to WV for the Falcons. Wahama isn't a slouch anymore like they had been.I didn’t even know they were playing Whoa Mama. Thought the only Mason County school they’d schedule was Hannah?
I have no clue what to make of this region after Danville and Trimble. probably not worth paying much mind to, tbh.
just to provide an update to this: my understanding is they’re deeply injured. Not at all near the point that uh, we tend to think of when we mix D7 programs and injuries. But they’re just derailed badly.so, what I’ll say is they’ve already had three different instances of “if not this year, will there be an opportunity again” seasons since ‘06
- ‘07 (bad fortune; missed although they may have been of the best teams in the region)
- ‘15 (even worse fortune; missed and, although they wouldn’t have won in week 11 they were probably appearance worthy)
- ‘19 (ughhhhhhhhhhh; they clinched a spot in week 7, Drew P at that point had them most likely as the 5 or the 6 but they free-fell into the 8 slot in week 10. Ending up drawing dead with HP.)
All three of those years have a common denominator: nothing significant materialized. Nothing generally notable or anything that can point to as a tangible accomplishment. Playoff appearances under the old system (that ideally are wins) or a league title; those things can be useful to help a program’s long-term health (plus that of the sponsoring) that needs it in the worst way. They were windows to win (read: get something that the program can champion) that closed, what followed each of those years were consecutive seasons where the reasonable bar was 3-4 wins and anything short was solidifying the downward spiral that the program has fought like hell to stay out of for so long now.
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The other side to ^^this^^ is, after each of those years concluded, there was never any inkling that there would be another opportunity. Just like after this year. This isn’t to say that it _has_ to be league title or bust, or a week 12 appearance, in order to be a total success. But, at this point, it DOES have to be better than the last two years. There’s no point in wallowing about the speed at which the sand dwindles down hourglass, because the time to concern about how to fix that is long gone. At this point it’s about flipping it back over.
The time is nigh.
When I watched the Irish take on Crooksville in week 1, it looked like they had towards 30 players on the roster. They had some decent size on their line I thought too. I saw glimpses of talent too and hope. But in the end, I asked myself. Is it coaching the problem? Declining enrollment? I feel like there could be a notebook of problems at Fisher.just to provide an update to this: my understanding is they’re deeply injured. Not at all near the point that uh, we tend to think of when we mix D7 programs and injuries. But they’re just derailed badly.
not providing this info to save face. Just that, in fairness to them, this isn’t going to end up being that ‘step in the right direction’ season. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Is what it is. The day will come where there’s at least one more shot across the bow in November by Irish archers (I hope.)
Hope they’re closer to the White Falcons of yore!They get to make a trip to WV for the Falcons. Wahama isn't a slouch anymore like they had been.
nah, man. Completely get this. I’m with you.There really isn't much to make of this region after us and Danville. I hate being like that but it's just so unbelievably weak. NC and Shadyside being way, way down doesn't help. It would add some spice to the region if they were on par with some of the middle of the pack teams.
Maybe another freak of an athlete with the last name Roush is going through those halls again.Hope they’re closer to the White Falcons of yore!
I tend to notice when the Green Wave are up, chances are region 27 is too. I've never seen an 0-6 Newark Catholic team in 18 year's I've been around. As an outsider looking in, is coaching more of a problem than declining enrollment? I know a lot of their kids graduated from that 2020-2022 run where they ate a lot of playing time. But in the past, it seemed like player development at NC was second to none. It sucks seeing this for NC because I have a ton of respect for the Green Wave.The fact NC is really under the gun, now (to where they may end up missing) is terrible for Region 27.
the top of the program is definitely NOT the problem. I’m going to get that point across every opportunity I get — no the matter the means it takes.When I watched the Irish take on Crooksville in week 1, it looked like they had towards 30 players on the roster. They had some decent size on their line I thought too. I saw glimpses of talent too and hope. But in the end, I asked myself. Is it coaching the problem? Declining enrollment? I feel like there could be a notebook of problems at Fisher.
I feel like if Fisher had more kids out, they'd be a top 4-8 team in this region every year. I saw talent against Crooksville. Mistakes absolutely killed them. (Not taking advantage of a bad snap from Crooksville and getting the ball at the 5 and not scoring doesn't help, either). But as an outsider looking in, I think they have the talent to win. But more depth would help. I noticed a lot of the kids banged up by halftime. Eventually having 30 kids on a roster is going to come back and bite you in the rear end.the top of the program is definitely NOT the problem. I’m going to get that point across every opportunity I get — no the matter the means it takes.
The decline in enrollment compared to its height in 2007-08 matters significantly. I’ve mapped out the issues that exist: they all tie to the issue of low enrollment. There’s a corollary to this, where enrollment is an issue. When I see you, I’ll explain that corollary in detail. What I’ll say on here is, when I was still involved with FC, I relentlessly tried to get across that the school needed to seriously look at building the enrollment up in new ways.
Needless to say, I’m unaffiliated for a reason now. Because it was too tiring to try and help when no one pays serious mind to someone from outside the parish hive.
FC doesn’t have authority over what programming gets offered by the junior high 90% of their kids come from, and tbh I think this is the briefest answer to your question.I feel like if Fisher had more kids out, they'd be a top 4-8 team in this region every year. I saw talent against Crooksville. Mistakes absolutely killed them. (Not taking advantage of a bad snap from Crooksville and getting the ball at the 5 and not scoring doesn't help, either). But as an outsider looking in, I think they have the talent to win. But more depth would help. I noticed a lot of the kids banged up by halftime. Eventually having 30 kids on a roster is going to come back and bite you in the rear end.
When will the FC community step in and say they've had enough of what's going on there? Or will they ever?
Yeah. I look at FC’s relative struggles in football as largely a product of structural issues. No one person at FC has the power to fix it themselves.@The Dock just sounds like some stuff needs to be rewritten. But, I know small catholics are struggling in a lot of places.
A huge change from the 21 season to 22. When we played them in 2021, I really thought they held their own throughout the game. They had a lot of heart and grit. (Which I think you said something that the '21 team had more of that than the '18 team).Yeah. I look at FC’s relative struggles in football as largely a product of structural issues. No one person at FC has the power to fix it themselves.
I’d look at the situation differently if there weren’t things like the Diocesan attendance boundaries policy rendering the school as obsolete to half of the Catholics in Fairfield County (because the Diocese specifically wants the other half of families to attend Hartley) or aimless separation of financial responsibility policies that prevent FC money from getting put toward its JH programs wherein a stake is formed (although I appreciate/understand it as good accounting and financial practice — it just is at odds with what needs to happen IMO.)
The only thing I can think of that could be changed by FC, although the extent to which this would make a difference is unknown, is seriously forming a braintrust around the program. The previous administration hired the current coach following the 2019 season — 110% the correct call. The current administration has been in charge since kickoff of the 2021 season.
Go look at Joe Eitel, compare that season to the years after. A place that has the braintrust toward football would’ve evaluated the change between 2021 and 2022 after the ‘22 season, and thoughtfully chose whether to stay the course or return to the bread & butter. Because the point of having a braintrust, which exists at places that have 99% of FC’s DNA yet way more football tradition, means you have well-learned people who value the program’s success enough to spend their time wanting to be a part of the solution.
That ‘21 team absolutely had way more heart and grit than the ‘18 team, despite having 1/4th the talent and 1/6th the size. The ‘18 game was embarrassing AF (I don’t care how good Sawyer Koons and the gang were, that doesn’t mean you don’t field a kickoff!!!) The ‘21 game I had a lot of pride in. I saw freshmen on that ‘21 team (this year’s seniors) make plays that older, bigger and more skilled kids in 2018 refused to make along with taking hits that those kids in 18 refused to take.A huge change from the 21 season to 22. When we played them in 2021, I really thought they held their own throughout the game. They had a lot of heart and grit. (Which I think you said something that the '21 team had more of that than the '18 team).
I can think of other areas where lack of stability within the FC orbit has come at the expense of the program’s health, but that’s a different discussion for a different day.I think not having a layer of stability really has hurt the Irish. Put that in with low numbers for the program, and the on field quality you get is sub par. I really think FC can get back to what they was before, but change is needed, and needed soon.
I couldn't believe what I saw when they let it roll down to the 3. I think we scored something like 22 points in under a minute? I'd have to go back to the film and see. (Sawyer Koons and that whole defense was some dawgs)That ‘21 team absolutely had way more heart and grit than the ‘18 team, despite having 1/4th the talent. The ‘18 game was embarrassing AF (I don’t care how good Sawyer Koons and the gang were, that doesn’t mean you don’t field a kickoff!!!) The ‘21 game I had a lot of pride in. I saw freshmen on that ‘21 team (this year’s seniors) make plays that older, bigger and more skilled kids in 2018 refused to make along with taking hits that those kids in 18 refused to take.
I saw at least 2 hurt vs Crooksville when I went. I was very impressed with the amount of heart those young men have. Heart can go a long way in high school sports. They really held their own for most of that game, too. I think it was something like 12-0 at halftime. (Really should have been a 12-7 game). But the back breaker was a long touchdown at the end of the 3rd that made it 30-0. That's when I decided it was time to head out.The thing that’s different between 2021 and the years that have followed: the game being played is less possessive. Fundamentally, it is less possessive. Possessive football gave FC punchers’ chances basically every week in the 2020 and 2021 seasons. Even that week 10 game vs BU in ‘21. 22 was deeply rough. 23 had some general improvements but still some things that needed to get fixed. 24 I’m not speaking on because a) haven’t made it to a game [and probably won’t… because its better to stay away] and b) I know that their season is derailed by an unusually rough injury bug, so we’ll never know what would’ve happened if they were way healthier for FCA, BR, BU, MP etc this year.
That ‘18 game was over the moment it was first and goal from the six-inch line for the Irish early on. 6’3” 260lb or whatever average across that line. Still can’t get in. Fortunately I had a good reputation with the Trimble buddies that I met up with that we just enjoyed the game, laughed (except for that infamous KOR disaster) and they were kind of enough to tell me that Uncle Phil was going to fake the PAT to put the clock on.I couldn't believe what I saw when they let it roll down to the 3. I think we scored something like 22 points in under a minute? I'd have to go back to the film and see. (Sawyer Koons and that whole defense was some dawgs)
This basically defines FC start to finish. It’s very much a South Bend steel mill mentality of relentlessness, grit and spirit in everything you do when you wear the uniform. Be it the school uniform or jersey. It applies deeply to the student body across the board.I saw at least 2 hurt vs Crooksville when I went. I was very impressed with the amount of heart those young men have. Heart can go a long way in high school sports. They really held their own for most of that game, too. I think it was something like 12-0 at halftime. (Really should have been a 12-7 game).
I honestly don’t know what FC’s prospects are in those games vs BU and MP. Healthy? I’m taking the points on the Irish (probably a touchdown favorite vs BU) and the outright win as well.But the back breaker was a long touchdown at the end of the 3rd that made it 30-0. That's when I decided it was time to head out.
FC has a tall task vs a Miller team who is not your Miller team this year. I think the Irish have 2 winnable games left on the schedule in Millersport, and Berne Union. And if FC does sneak into the playoffs if they are to win those games, they are more than likely going to be going to Pike County for the off brand Eagles. Glouster for another date with the Tomcats. Or they get to go to Danville. I'm rooting very hard for the Irish.