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Buford Georgia 21 Charlton County 14.

 
Well, Charlton had a nice advantage being able to play at its home field with a 37 home winning streak, which they got as the result of a coin flip.

Buford exacts revenge on Charlton

If the game was played in Buford, I think it would have been a blowout.
The fact that Charlton replaced 16-17 starters from last years champs and that in spite of that factoid Buford could not "blow" them out just proves that Buford can still get all they want from certain programs even in AA any year. You neglected to mention that Bolden was unable to suit up for Charlton.He could have been a diff maker.Yes the Wolves are good, however Buford could lose Friday.Dublin is very much improved since the seasons beginning, probably more physically gifted than Charlton, and certainly not scared of Booford.Buford may mop the Dome with Dublin but I personally wouldn't be suprised if the Fighting Irish took them to the mat. If it's close at halftime Buford might be in trouble.

The paragraphs below pertain to a discussion you and I had last week, remember? Order is being restored!

"I wouldn't assume that Lowndes will even beat Roswell. Roswell is one of the defending Class AAAAA state champs, after all. Lowndes got one of the easiest playoff draws ever known to mankind this year. Let's recall that Lowndes lost to Harrison this year already"

"I'm not sure why anyone outside Atlanta wouldn't be sold on Roswell. They beat Houston County and Tift County rather handily in last year's playoffs."

"They've already beaten Brookwood, and barely lost to Walton & Chattahoochee this year. Even that Chattahoochee team that lost in the first round of the playoffs beat Camden County down at their place as well."






Buford 21 Charlton County 14. No walk in the park.Buford won it with under 2 minutes to play after Charlton fumbled on their own 15 yd line.Bufords D came up big in the 3rd stopping Charlton on 4th and goal from the 2. Buford gained 223 yds total offense, Charlton 188 yds total offense.

Lowndes 31, Roswell 20.
Lowndes ran the ball down Roswells throat the whole night.And Roswells offense was pretty much held in check. Lowndes 387 yds rushing. Total domination up front by Lowndes.Roswell moved a little in the 4th qtr. against the prevent D but for the most part had their butts kicked at the los.Roswell qb was abused, sacked 6 times!

Northside-Warner Robins 30, Rome 0.Ivory will be back next week for Tucker.May not be enough.Tucker is very good.

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Buford 48 Dublin 0.So much for Dublin being all that.AA is over for all practical purpose and intent.Rematch between Buford and The Lovett School, who Buford laid a 21-0 spanking on just a few weeks ago. Probably won't be as close next week.Order should be restored next year as all those Charlton sophmores and juniors will have grown up a bit.
 
Where Is Buford

What part of Ga. is Buford in? I umpire baseball and I saw a picture of a huge Little League complex (Cobb County?) It looked like pro fields.
 
What part of Ga. is Buford in? I umpire baseball and I saw a picture of a huge Little League complex (Cobb County?) It looked like pro fields.


Sort of rural ( touch of country near the city) approx. 40 miles NE of downtown Atlanta.Near Lake Lanier. Tough kids plus movement into the area from families wanting homes with several acre lots.New money and old rough and toughs who seem to be on the same page.total community support for a smalltown.Buford won their first state title in 1978, and have been competitive. When Dexter Wood, Eric Zier's coach at Marietta took over as HC he laid a strong foundation. Jess Simpson has kept them playing at a high level. Next year could be very challenging for Buford, however i would expect them to play hard for 48 minutes.Charlton Countyshould be scary good the next 2 years.Buford, although clearly more talented this year, was taken to the limit by Charlton who was without their key player and made 2 critical mistakes that removed any possibility of the upset. Buford could only manage approx 220 yds total offense.Probably their lowest offensive output in sometime.Charlton started 9 sophmores and 8 juniors.
To answer a question you posed Cobb is fairly affluent and can afford top shelf public facilities and has shown no reluctance to make the investment.Starting in the late 60's Cobbs groweth was accelerated due to families relocating South as companies fled the taxes and labor unions.During the 70's Cobb was by far the fastest growing county in Georgia.The newcomers elevated the quality of life in the Atlanta suburbs and certain other adajacent counties have grown 500 percent since 1980.Gwinnett being one of them.
Check out Lincoln County,s website few schools have the tradition, coaching, and talent of this pint sized school.http://www.lincolncountyreddevils.com/
 
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What fans of Georgia football don't realize is they will never get proper respect on a national level. Why? The whole idea of having many powerful program and intense competition and parity is BAD, BAD news for getting teams ranked nationally. National observers want easy, sexy picks that are a sure bet to win all the games easily. Never mind the quality of competition and never mind that MANY Georgia teams could beat most of the nationally rated teams ahead of them.
 
What fans of Georgia football don't realize is they will never get proper respect on a national level. Why? The whole idea of having many powerful program and intense competition and parity is BAD, BAD news for getting teams ranked nationally. National observers want easy, sexy picks that are a sure bet to win all the games easily. Never mind the quality of competition and never mind that MANY Georgia teams could beat most of the nationally rated teams ahead of them.
No, that's untrue. what National pollsters want to see is teams challenge themselves with out of state competition. On average, how many teams from GA play big, out of state competition? Not many.

therefore, you are correct. They are NOT going to get the recognition because they haven' t earned it yet.

-CardinalsFan
 
Why was St. Xavier ranked so high all year long?

As good as they were, they weren't a sure bet to win almost anything, considering how tough their schedule was.

And why were MNW and SLC #1 and #2? Since they were playing each other, they couldn't both have been a sure bet.
 
The fact that Charlton replaced 16-17 starters from last years champs and that in spite of that factoid Buford could not "blow" them out just proves that Buford can still get all they want from certain programs even in AA any year.
You still failed to take into account that Charlton had a huge advantage that it didn't really deserve by getting a home game when it should have been Buford's home game.

Anyway, as already noted, Buford blew Dublin off the field, and will likely do the same against Lovett. So, it would seem my Buford state title prediction will come true.


The paragraphs below pertain to a discussion you and I had last week, remember? Order is being restored!

"I wouldn't assume that Lowndes will even beat Roswell. Roswell is one of the defending Class AAAAA state champs, after all. Lowndes got one of the easiest playoff draws ever known to mankind this year. Let's recall that Lowndes lost to Harrison this year already"

Lowndes 31, Roswell 20.
Lowndes ran the ball down Roswells throat the whole night.And Roswells offense was pretty much held in check. Lowndes 387 yds rushing. Total domination up front by Lowndes.Roswell moved a little in the 4th qtr. against the prevent D but for the most part had their butts kicked at the los.Roswell qb was abused, sacked 6 times!
You make it sound like Lowndes completely dominated Roswell. Roswell only lost by 11 points.

Considering Lowndes just squeaked by Camden and North Gwinnett blew Walton off the field, I think I'd take North Gwinnett this week.
 
No, that's untrue. what National pollsters want to see is teams challenge themselves with out of state competition. On average, how many teams from GA play big, out of state competition? Not many.

therefore, you are correct. They are NOT going to get the recognition because they haven' t earned it yet.

-CardinalsFan
Actually, Valdosta has received plenty of recognition over the years, especially considering they are the all-time leader in wins in the country.

Anyway, here's their rankings in USA Today over the years.

http://www.valdostafootball.com/yearlyresults/usa_today_rankings.asp

They claim a few other "national championships," but they are all highly speculative, of course.

http://www.valdostafootball.com/yearlyresults/championships.asp

LaGrange High School was the #1 team in USA Today's Super 25 poll in 1991 as well.

http://www.lagrangefootball.com/COACHHISTORY.html

http://www.lagrangefootball.com/SCORE HISTORY.html
 
You still failed to take into account that Charlton had a huge advantage that it didn't really deserve by getting a home game when it should have been Buford's home game.

Anyway, as already noted, Buford blew Dublin off the field, and will likely do the same against Lovett. So, it would seem my Buford state title prediction will come true.



You make it sound like Lowndes completely dominated Roswell. Roswell only lost by 11 points.

Considering Lowndes just squeaked by Camden and North Gwinnett blew Walton off the field, I think I'd take North Gwinnett this week.

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I was at the game a couple of to's kept Camden in the game as their offense could muster only first 4 downs and 88 yds total offense! NG can win if the QB can be protected. And yes Lowndes physically dominated Roswell.

You fail to take into account that Charlton was without their best player. Selective amnesia?
 
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No, that's untrue. what National pollsters want to see is teams challenge themselves with out of state competition. On average, how many teams from GA play big, out of state competition? Not many.

therefore, you are correct. They are NOT going to get the recognition because they haven' t earned it yet.

-CardinalsFan

As for Georgia's record against oos teams.Here is your reading material for the winter.
http://www.ghsfha.org/ Enjoy.

From the 1920's through this year our teams have more than held their own against oos teams.http://ghsfha.org/forum/index.php?showforum=22

Boys High and Tech High usually played 4-5 oos teams per year.And traveled from Mass to Miami.Didn't win them all but more than held their own.Teams did not travel those distances during the depression just to bag a win.Boys and Tech sought out and competed very well against the best teams of the era, those who would play them anyway. Through the 1946 season, the GIAA was easily one of the strongest leagues in the nation. After WWII the league was expanded and Boys and Tech were split into 7 or 8 other schools.
But as for not having proved the caliber of ball played here, save it pal. Been there done that.
 
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Actually, Valdosta has received plenty of recognition over the years, especially considering they are the all-time leader in wins in the country.

Anyway, here's their rankings in USA Today over the years.

http://www.valdostafootball.com/yearlyresults/usa_today_rankings.asp

They claim a few other "national championships," but they are all highly speculative, of course.

http://www.valdostafootball.com/yearlyresults/championships.asp

LaGrange High School was the #1 team in USA Today's Super 25 poll in 1991 as well.

http://www.lagrangefootball.com/COACHHISTORY.html

http://www.lagrangefootball.com/SCORE HISTORY.html

They claim a few other "national championships," but they are all highly speculative, of course.

As are all national championship claims at the HS level. Any year, by any team.
 
And yes Lowndes physically dominated Roswell.
Well, they certainly didn't "dominate" Roswell on the scoreboard, which is the final arbiter of these things.

You fail to take into account that Charlton was without their best player. Selective amnesia?
If I was Buford, I'd much rather give you that player back, and play the game in Buford, unless the kid is the second coming of Hershel Walker. That's not exactly a short trip. I've driven from Atlanta to St. Mary's, so I know from personal experience.
 
But as for not having proved the caliber of ball played here, save it pal. Been there done that.
I would agree that there is great high school football played in Georgia. However, I don't think many Georgia teams play against the better out of state schools very frequently.

Valdosta has played Tallahassee Lincoln a number of times, but Lincoln isn't even in the largest classification in Florida. Surely, Valdosta should be playing the better teams from either Miami or Orlando instead.

I think North Gwinnett is participating in some sort of jamboree over in Alabama next year, but that isn't a regular season game that counts on the books. So, I wouldn't count that.

Other than some schools on the border who do it out of necessity, I don't think I've seen many of Georgia's best schools tee it up against the best Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, and/or Alabama schools.

I wouldn't think it should be too difficult for Camden County to schedule the best large school team in the Jacksonville area, for example.
 
I would agree that there is great high school football played in Georgia. However, I don't think many Georgia teams play against the better out of state schools very frequently.

Valdosta has played Tallahassee Lincoln a number of times, but Lincoln isn't even in the largest classification in Florida. Surely, Valdosta should be playing the better teams from either Miami or Orlando instead.

I think North Gwinnett is participating in some sort of jamboree over in Alabama next year, but that isn't a regular season game that counts on the books. So, I wouldn't count that.

Other than some schools on the border who do it out of necessity, I don't think I've seen many of Georgia's best schools tee it up against the best Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, and/or Alabama schools.

I wouldn't think it should be too difficult for Camden County to schedule the best large school team in the Jacksonville area, for example.

I do not think we are running scared.As the site ref. above more than demonstrably proves, when we have played the better teams from those states, we have performed well more often than not.I'm sure Camden fans would love to do home and away with a Jax team and make a day of it.But who?Parker, Mandarin, Wolfson, Sandlewood? Except for Phenix City beating up on the horrible Columbus schools, Bammers best haven't matched up all that well with Georgia best over the long haul.Same with Tennessee and North Carolina.Richmond Academy and Lanier in Macon played national schedules well into the 40's.And Richmond played plenty of SC teams into the 70's.I would like to see some Georgia teams invited by schools from our adajacent states to tee it up.But it may not be up to us:) .


Buford will mercy rule Lovett. You know very well the score is not always reflective of the actual game.Lowndes could come up with about 4 reasons why they shouldn't have won 56-14. Roswell was manhandled up front. I still would not be suprised if NG beats them though.Lowndes is much faster and seriously more agressive, but if Tamburo gets in a rhythm, Lowndes could be in alot of trouble. Unlike most North Georgia teams, Lowndes has guys who can run with their recievers, and ends who are hard to block.Plugging the middle is about 320lbs of BMF*****. If NG can't handle Manning, then they have problems.

With Ivory in I believe, having seen all of these teams we have discussed, that Northside is the best of the bunch.Marques Ivory had been out since mid-Oct with a broken tibula.After spotting Tucker a 28-7 halftime lead, Ivory came off the bench and hit 11 of 16 for 305 yds and 3 td's.Plus one dropped in the endzone. Bigger and as fast as Lowndes I believe NWR is the best team in the state overall.
 
Well, they certainly didn't "dominate" Roswell on the scoreboard, which is the final arbiter of these things.


If I was Buford, I'd much rather give you that player back, and play the game in Buford, unless the kid is the second coming of Hershel Walker. That's not exactly a short trip. I've driven from Atlanta to St. Mary's, so I know from personal experience.


Charlton would have come up the day before anyway and been well rested. He is not the second coming of the great one but at the AA level he is a diff maker and a big chunk of Charltons offensive production.No question Buford is better this year.Lets see how the next couple of years play out.
 
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