Big Ten Football 2024

Which Big Ten Team(s) Quality For The CFP In 2024

  • Illinois

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Indiana

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Iowa

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Michigan

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Michigan State

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Minnesota

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nebraska

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Northwestern

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ohio State

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • Oregon

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • Penn State

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Purdue

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Southern Cal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • UCLA

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Washington

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wisconsin

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
I can’t disagree. Everything said there is correct. Go look at the talent composite, even the bad SEC teams have a 5 star scattered in there while you’ll be lucky to find a composite top 100 player on the bad Big Ten teams. No reason kids from DC and Maryland should be choosing the SEC over their home. Big Ten needs to do a much better job at recruiting that area before getting better in the southeast.
What makes kids pick the school they pick? They want to go places where football is king and they can get coached up to be an NFL player. The NFL rosters are full of SEC players.
 
What makes kids pick the school they pick? They want to go places where football is king and they can get coached up to be an NFL player. The NFL rosters are full of SEC players.
You are correct but at the same time I would still say overall the Big Ten is the 2nd best conference the last few seasons even though they are miles behind the SEC. These kids still want to stay home more often than not as well.
 
You are correct but at the same time I would still say overall the Big Ten is the 2nd best conference the last few seasons even though they are miles behind the SEC. These kids still want to stay home more often than not as well.
Considering the Pac-10 is gone and the Big 12 is mostly moved to other conferences, is it by default? I mean the ACC has never been considered a football conference other than Clemson and FSU back in the day.
 
Considering the Pac-10 is gone and the Big 12 is mostly moved to other conferences, is it by default? I mean the ACC has never been considered a football conference other than Clemson and FSU back in the day.
Good point. IMO the PAC was the best conference last season even above the SEC. Big Ten was 2nd best in 2022
 
Nope. Sorry. My point is that the Big teams were more often than not being matched up against higher ranked teams. Silly to think they should win more than they lose in that scenario.
I’d have to look into that with more detail but specifically speaking about Penn State I do know they were ranked higher than Ole Miss before suffering a beat down in the Peach Bowl. Ohio State was ranked higher than Missouri as well.
 
I am an OSU fan, but I certainly can say that without a doubt, the SEC is the strongest conference in football, top to bottom. It has been for quite a while. I really don't think I have seen any posts where people are claiming the Big Ten is stronger, but maybe I missed them. Not sure what all the squabbling is about.

The top four in both conferences are probably pretty close, but again, I give the edge to the SEC. These are in my opinion:
SEC: Texas, Georgia, Bama, Tennessee
Big Ten: OSU, Oregon, PSU, Michigan

The real difference comes in the next tier - it is SEC by a mile:
SEC: Ole Miss, LSU, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Mizzou,
Big Ten: Washington, USC, and then a lot of bleh.... Sure, Indiana and Illinois look OK this year, but are they good? Who knows.

So the conference strength argument is a slam dunk. But who cares? The only question that really matters to me is "who is better than OSU this year?" I'm not sure anyone is. Time will tell...
 
Good point. IMO the PAC was the best conference last season even above the SEC. Big Ten was 2nd best in 2022
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There were a few Pac 12 teams that was good, but from top to middle, no one is close to the SEC.
 
I’d have to look into that with more detail but specifically speaking about Penn State I do know they were ranked higher than Ole Miss before suffering a beat down in the Peach Bowl. Ohio State was ranked higher than Missouri as well.
And? I didn't say they were always rated higher.
 
I literally just went into detail about when OSU struggled and their ranked wins weren’t impressive. I know you don’t know much about football and cannot seem to understand but that doesn’t mean you should troll my posts either.

You literally"yeah butted" three of four of your own arguments. I simply quoted it. That's not trolling. I used your own words. :LOL: Worse, you then tried to use the argument you yourself had defeated to establish what? You don't know me. You don't know what I know, don't know. Trolling is your second sentence. You drooling down your fool neck.

Read the room son. Purdue didn't just win. They blew Ohio St off the field. That's not credible but it happened. That Purdue team had a giant in front of them and they were going to slay it for some dying kid that was rooting harder for them than himself.

Speculation being good for the goose as well as the gander, had the Purdue loss not given the selection committee the excuse they needed, Ohio St would have been the team playing Clemson and the game would have been close at worst if not an outright win for Ohio St. Excepting Ala, Eevery other team in that final four had barely wons against "eh" teams. Hell, ND only beat Vandy by 5 and BALL ST by 8. Clemson didn't do any better against GTech than did Minnesota. Let's repeat that. Minnesota. Ala got smoked. Was that Saban no longer championship caliber coach?

Facts son. Learn them. Use them. Don't "yeah butt" them, then somehow insist they support your conclusion.

None of those play-offs teams had to meet up with Purdue on that particular day in that particular setting. The CFP never published nor clarified which protocol put Okie and Ga ahead of Ohio St. They just decided. Tyler Trent gave them the excuse.

On that day, Ohio St represented the unbeatable giant that if conquered, would uplift this hero. By the Auburn game the team was not slaying giants. They were in mourning.

Ohio St met Purdue on the wrong day.
 
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You literally"yeah butted" three of four of your own arguments. I simply quoted it. That's not trolling.
No you didn’t, the discussion dealt with Urban struggling in his final years and I provided examples. You then added a weird AF response to my answer literally two days ago. You are trolling and a weirdo.
 
Finally the Big Ten has a relevant day and FOX still doesn’t have any big games. I love it! 😂

Gus can go take his oratory masturbation act to Provo where no one will be watching.
 
No you didn’t, the discussion dealt with Urban struggling in his final years and I provided examples. You then added a weird AF response to my answer literally two days ago. You are trolling and a weirdo.
Is that your message board schtick? Just insulting people?

You responded to MY post on Purdue. I didn't call you over. YOU chose to join MY topic and bring up Meyer. As for whether or not I responded directly to your comments, yes, I did. It's in black and white. Here it is again.
Again, you aren't looking deep enough. The ranked teams OSU beat after Purdue?
Michigan State - This team finished 7-6
Michigan - Yes this Michigan team was good
Northwestern - Solid win
Washington - Solid win

This isn't even taking into the fact the disastrous struggles in games against Nebraska, Maryland, and TCU OR his massive struggles in games in 2016 and 2017.

Urban was great from 2012-2015 but after that it was time for him to go and he was no longer an OSU caliber coach.

Those were your examples. Yeah but, yeah but, yeah but 🤷 Trying to have an intelligent discussion. Step up. Refute my facts instead of name call.

That 7-6 MSU, one of those losses by only one point to a Justin Hebert led Oregon? That MSU held one of the best offensive machines in the nation to just 7 points. OSU didn't just win that game. They beat them in a dominating fashion, 26-6. If you KNOW football or any competition as you claim, you know how rare it is to hold P5 coaching and talent to 6pts.

Your bucket of evidence is full of holes.

WHICH team, champion or otherwise never has games of "struggles?" Name them?

The teams they are playing are full of top athletes and high paid coaches. No one reaonable expects every team to dominate every game. I point again the score differentials of the four teams selected for the play-offs. Except Alabama, which then got globbered, ALL the teams had several in-season games where they struggled against "eh" teams. And they won. That's why they were champions. The Purdue game was an anomoly because of the immensity of the moment.

Saban got globbered then went on to win another NC. That's competition. That's life.

All facts. No troll. ;)
 
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You responded to MY post on Purdue. I didn't call you over. YOU chose to join MY topic and bring up Meyer. As for whether or not I responded directly to your comments, yes, I did. It's in black and white. Here it is again.
Just like you chose to respond to @AEW Champion post correct? That was the original subject matter (Urban Meyer) that I kept on topic with.
 
That 7-6 MSU, one of those losses by only one point to a Justin Hebert led Oregon? That MSU held one of the best offensive machines in the nation to just 7 points. OSU didn't just win that game. They beat them in a dominating fashion, 26-6. If you KNOW football or any competition as you claim, you know how rare it is to hold P5 coaching and talent to 6pts.

Your bucket of evidence is full of holes.

WHICH team, champion or otherwise never has games of "struggles?" Name them?

The teams they are playing are full of top athletes and high paid coaches. No one reaonable expects every team to dominate every game. I point again the score differentials of the four teams selected for the play-offs. Except Alabama, which then got globbered, ALL the teams had several in-season games where they struggled against "eh" teams. And they won. That's why they were champions. The Purdue game was an anomoly because of the immensity of the moment.

Saban got globbered then went on to win another NC. That's competition. That's life.

All facts. No troll. ;)
You're coming up with ONE game here, while I listed several. What's your explanation for those other games?
 
He should come back to the NFL; that’s his best sport. Don’t need him back on Reds games. Sadak is better than he was, if for no other reason than Thom’s arrogance and negativity got old when you heard it day in and day out.
What positivity has there been about the Reds? He only called he like he saw it, similar to his Dad.
 
He and Marty were the ringleaders of dumping on Votto when he was still one of the elite players of his generation.
Interesting, I personally never thought Votto was an elite #1 guy you can build a team around but he would be an elite #2. His lack of hitting in the postseason is too damning.

Be that as it may I wouldn’t expect anyone to find much of anything positive for a franchise that hasn’t won a postseason series since 1995.
 
Penn State defense getting exposed. As a program they really can’t defend the forward pass but get lucky year in and out playing one dimensional Big Ten teams that don’t expose them. Ole Miss last season and USC now are exposing them
 
Penn State defense getting exposed. As a program they really can’t defend the forward pass but get lucky year in and out playing one dimensional Big Ten teams that don’t expose them. Ole Miss last season and USC now are exposing them
USC’s offensive playmakers look WAY too athletic for Penn State, who has obviously been conditioned for slow-as-molasses B1G bumpkin ball.
 
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