(5-0) Fitch @ (4-1) Massillon

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Actually I did quote it. You clearly missed it.
You're taking this way off track, because again, you seem very emotionally invested in this argument for whatever reason...
You've taken shots at Fitch and their tradition. You are in the minority. I have pointed out some flaws in your statements. You are upset and continue to ask me to tap out.
Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

You have not pointed out flaws. I've used data. Wins and playoff wins. Not sure how emotion is tied to that. You've pointed out tv ratings. Really reaching for content.
 
Strong O-Line and running game will carry you far.

I had Eds getting the Tigers and I was wrong. Granted it was close but really down 14-0 and then go 31-14 the rest of the way. I know I am talking about the Eds game and this is the Fitch game. I had it 38-24 Tigers and really Fitch has been a consistent scoring team all season getting to around 40 a game so I figured they would get their points.

Region 5 is looking pretty solid as far as it goes with Hoban. Walsh was no pushover friday and their are several teams in there that could push Hoban IMO. Regions 6 and 8 look solid too. Will be some interesting matchups weeks 12-14.
 
Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

You have not pointed out flaws. I've used data. Wins and playoff wins. Not sure how emotion is tied to that. You've pointed out tv ratings. Really reaching for content.
I have no skin in this game but you seem to have an issue with Fitch. That says everything. As for Ursuline and Mooney, Fitch has done quite well against both the past 5 years. Hubbard has a good 20 year run very consistent, but the previous 50 nah! Canfield has had some really good teams with typical peaks and valleys. Their real run is since 2017 when they have run up against the best teams in their Division they couldn’t break through something Fitch is very familiar with. I do not see Canfield regularly scheduling the cream of the area crop you speak of. Quite the contrary we see the avoidance type of scheduling going on there! Why no Mooney, or Ursuline? We all know why! I have nothing against any of these teams. Fitch is a once a decade type program when classes align. I have nothing but respect for their program. They have been in with some of the best programs regionally for 40 years now. Hoban is on another level, the Ignatius decade with the Ignatius, St Ed, Mentor, Glenville and Solon after that. Let me know when Canfield or Hubbard breaks through anything of that nature! In 2005 they didn’t have to go through an Ignatius, St Edwards or Hoban type and just came up short against TCC in the state title game. But let’s be clear the team’s Fitch has been in with regionally for half a century are some of the all time best in Ohio’s history! Let me know when Canfield or Hubbard breaks through a regions that has anything similar to Hoban, St Vs, Walsh, Solon, and Hudson. I don’t think I need to look any further!
 
I have no skin in this game but you seem to have an issue with Fitch. That says everything. As for Ursuline and Mooney, Fitch has done quite well against both the past 5 years. Hubbard has a good 20 year run very consistent, but the previous 50 nah! Canfield has had some really good teams with typical peaks and valleys. Their real run is since 2017 when they have run up against the best teams in their Division they couldn’t break through something Fitch is very familiar with. I do not see Canfield regularly scheduling the cream of the area crop you speak of. Quite the contrary we see the avoidance type of scheduling going on there! Why no Mooney, or Ursuline? We all know why! I have nothing against any of these teams. Fitch is a once a decade type program when classes align. I have nothing but respect for their program. They have been in with some of the best programs regionally for 40 years now. Hoban is on another level, the Ignatius decade with the Ignatius, St Ed, Mentor, Glenville and Solon after that. Let me know when Canfield or Hubbard breaks through anything of that nature! In 2005 they didn’t have to go through an Ignatius, St Edwards or Hoban type and just came up short against TCC in the state title game. But let’s be clear the team’s Fitch has been in with regionally for half a century are some of the all time best in Ohio’s history! Let me know when Canfield or Hubbard breaks through a regions that has anything similar to Hoban, St Vs, Walsh, Solon, and Hudson. I don’t think I need to look any further!

All excellent points. I too respect Fitch, I just feel they are overrated.

Fitch Playoffs 11-12 Record
11/8/1986 (Reg Semi) W 26-7 vs. Walsh Jesuit (Cuyahoga Falls)
11/15/1986 (Reg Fin) W 28-24 vs. Canton McKinley
11/22/1986 (State Semi) L 0-30 vs. St. Edward (Lakewood)
11/3/1990 (Reg Semi) W 33-28 vs. St. Ignatius (Cleveland)
11/9/1990 (Reg Fin) L 6-31 vs. Warren G. Harding (Warren)
11/14/1992 (Reg Semi) W 27-6 vs. Perry (Massillon)
11/21/1992 (Reg Fin) W 49-7 vs. Pickerington
11/28/1992 (State Semi) L 7-31 vs. St. Ignatius (Cleveland)
11/6/2004 (Reg QrtF) L 21-29 vs. Glenville (Cleveland)
11/6/2010 (Reg QrtF) W 42-35 vs. South (Willoughby)
11/13/2010 (Reg Semi) L 0-41 vs. Solon
11/3/2012 (Reg QrtF) L 26-35 vs. St. Ignatius (Cleveland)
11/9/2013 (Reg QrtF) W 31-21 vs. Marysville
11/16/2013 (Reg Semi) W 40-24 vs. Westerville Central
11/23/2013 (Reg Fin) L 0-28 vs. St. Edward (Lakewood)
11/8/2014 (Reg QrtF) W 15-3 vs. Wadsworth
11/15/2014 (Reg Semi) L 21-44 vs. Westerville Central
11/7/2015 (Reg QrtF) L 7-28 vs. Euclid
11/2/2018 (Reg QrtF) L 0-35 vs. Euclid
10/16/2020 (Reg OctF) W 35-0 vs. Twinsburg
10/23/2020 (Reg QrtF) L 10-24 vs. Warren G. Harding (Warren)
10/29/2021 (Reg OctF) W 35-28 vs. Warren G. Harding (Warren)
11/5/2021 (Reg QrtF) L 28-48 vs. Archbishop Hoban (Akron)

Canfield (18-13)
11/8/1996 (Reg Semi) W 21-18 vs. Chaney (Youngstown)
11/15/1996 (Reg Fin) L 13-19 vs. Sheridan (Thornville)
11/4/2000 (Reg QrtF) W 21-7 vs. Louisville
11/11/2000 (Reg Semi) L 20-48 vs. West Holmes (Millersburg)
11/1/2002 (Reg QrtF) W 49-28 vs. Maple Heights
11/8/2002 (Reg Semi) L 21-23 vs. Howland (Warren)
11/5/2004 (Reg QrtF) L 3-18 vs. Brookhaven (Columbus)
11/4/2005 (Reg QrtF) W 28-0 vs. Beechcroft (Columbus)
11/11/2005 (Reg Semi) W 7-3 vs. Bishop Watterson (Columbus)
11/18/2005 (Reg Fin) W 7-0 vs. Louisville
11/25/2005 (State Semi) W 17-14 vs. Tallmadge
12/2/2005 (State Fin) L 29-31 vs. Central Catholic (Toledo)
11/3/2006 (Reg QrtF) L 37-42 vs. Pickerington Central
11/2/2007 (Reg QrtF) W 43-19 vs. Marion-Franklin (Columbus)
11/9/2007 (Reg Semi) L 10-27 vs. St. Francis DeSales (Columbus)
11/6/2009 (Reg QrtF) W 31-14 vs. Aurora
11/13/2009 (Reg Semi) L 24-31 vs. Lake Catholic (Mentor)
11/6/2015 (Reg QrtF) L 28-49 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
11/3/2017 (Reg QrtF) W 23-0 vs. Aurora
11/10/2017 (Reg Semi) W 22-7 vs. Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin (Chardon)
11/17/2017 (Reg Fin) L 10-13 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
11/2/2018 (Reg QrtF) W 35-10 vs. Marlington (Alliance)
11/9/2018 (Reg Semi) W 30-7 vs. East (Akron)
11/16/2018 (Reg Fin) L 7-33 vs. Kenston (Chagrin Falls)
10/16/2020 (Reg OctF) W 28-10 vs. Kenston (Chagrin Falls)
10/24/2020 (Reg QrtF) W 14-6 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
10/30/2020 (Reg Semi) W 24-6 vs. Streetsboro
11/6/2020 (Reg Fin) L 6-38 vs. Chardon
10/29/2021 (Reg OctF) W 42-14 vs. Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin (Chardon)
11/5/2021 (Reg QrtF) W 21-7 vs. Hubbard
11/12/2021 (Reg Semi) L 14-27 vs. Chardon

Hubbard (15-18)
11/5/1999 (Reg QrtF) L 14-21 vs. Perry
11/4/2000 (Reg QrtF) W 10-7 vs. Kenston (Chagrin Falls)
11/11/2000 (Reg Semi) W 6-3 vs. Highland (Medina)
11/18/2000 (Reg Fin) L 8-17 vs. Copley
11/2/2001 (Reg QrtF) W 29-21 vs. Crestwood (Mantua)
11/9/2001 (Reg Semi) L 14-21 vs. Poland Seminary
11/2/2002 (Reg QrtF) L 7-20 vs. Steubenville
11/6/2004 (Reg QrtF) L 14-42 vs. Lake Catholic (Mentor)
11/4/2006 (Reg QrtF) W 17-7 vs. Liberty (Youngstown)
11/11/2006 (Reg Semi) L 12-31 vs. Lake Catholic (Mentor)
11/2/2007 (Reg QrtF) L 23-37 vs. Rocky River
11/1/2008 (Reg QrtF) W 40-12 vs. Ravenna
11/8/2008 (Reg Semi) L 7-14 vs. Aurora
11/6/2009 (Reg QrtF) W 30-14 vs. Buckeye (Medina)
11/13/2009 (Reg Semi) L 0-55 vs. Cardinal Mooney (Youngstown)
11/6/2010 (Reg QrtF) L 19-27 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
11/3/2012 (Reg QrtF) W 39-27 vs. Niles McKinley
11/10/2012 (Reg Semi) L 14-54 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
11/8/2013 (Reg QrtF) W 42-14 vs. Marlington (Alliance)
11/15/2013 (Reg Semi) W 49-19 vs. Aurora
11/22/2013 (Reg Fin) L 7-40 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
11/7/2014 (Reg QrtF) W 45-14 vs. Tallmadge
11/14/2014 (Reg Semi) W 23-19 vs. Aurora
11/21/2014 (Reg Fin) L 23-26 vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron)
11/4/2016 (Reg QrtF) L 9-27 vs. Cardinal Mooney (Youngstown)
11/3/2018 (Reg QrtF) W 51-21 vs. Indian Creek (Wintersville)
11/10/2018 (Reg Semi) W 34-16 vs. Steubenville
11/17/2018 (Reg Fin) L 18-43 vs. Girard
11/9/2019 (Reg QrtF) L 29-35 vs. Indian Creek (Wintersville)
10/9/2020 (Reg 16thF) W 42-38 vs. Alliance
10/16/2020 (Reg OctF) L 19-22 vs. Geneva
10/29/2021 (Reg OctF) W 39-20 vs. New Philadelphia
11/5/2021 (Reg QrtF) L 7-21 vs. Canfield






Fitch has run into the parochial powers you speak of 6 of their 23 playoff games. 26% of their playoff games have come against those schools. You mention Hoban? You've literally played them once in the playoffs. Once. As in one time.

Canfield has run into (parochial powers) Saint V or St. Francis DeSales or TCC 5 times in their 31 playoff games. Am I allowed to include the state champion Brookhaven, Chardon, Chardon, and Kenston? Is running into a state champ worthy for your list? That would mean they ran into parochial powers or state champs (those are halfway decent teams maybe?) 9 times in their 31 playoff appearances, totaling 29% of the time.

Hubbard has run into Mooney or St. V or Mentor Lake Catholic 8 times in 33 playoff games. Or 24% of their playoff games.

It's all relative. Divisions 1-3 have parochial or public powers. Hubbard and Canfield are D2-D4 schools in their history. They have run into "powers" that you speak of. Is Chardon not worthy of your list after their latest run? Or the state champs that both teams have run into?

I cannot keep going into Yappi Wiki to help you guys. You have to start posting content. It's exhausting. So I'll ask you this again:

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

If you're complaining about publics in a big division, please see Pick Central, Mentor, Dublin Coffman, or Colerain for more details.

One guy taps out, and then tags the next in. This has turned into a Yappi burial. A tier 2 Yappi burial.

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.

Would you trade your last 20 years for Hubbard's, Canfield's, Ursuline's, Mooney's, South Range's, Crestview's, or Warren JFK's last 20 years? Please refer to playoff wins and total wins on Yappi Wiki.
 
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