2024 Division V Poll Voting Discussion (Week 7)

 
Division VHow they fared...
1 Liberty CenterLiberty Center (Liberty Center) 21 at Patrick Henry (Hamler) 15
2 South RangeSouth Range (Canfield) 55 at Girard (Girard) 27
3 IrontonIronton (Ironton) 48 at Pikeville (Pikeville) [KY] 33
4 Harvest PrepBye
5 GarawayIndian Valley (Gnadenhutten) 40 at Garaway (Sugarcreek) 35
6 VersaillesAnna (Anna) 13 at Versailles (Versailles) 7
7 Columbus AcademyBexley (Columbus) 0 at Columbus Academy (Gahanna) 42
8 BarnesvilleCaldwell (Caldwell) 0 at Barnesville (Barnesville) 44
9 Oak HarborOak Harbor (Oak Harbor) 31 at Otsego (Tontogany) 0
10 Pemberville EastwoodFostoria (Fostoria) 0 at Eastwood (Pemberville) 51
Others
Milan EdisonPerkins (Sandusky) 14 at Edison (Milan) 15
GreeneviewSoutheastern Local (South Charleston) 0 at Greeneview (Jamestown) 33
ManchesterManchester (New Franklin) 46 at Tuslaw (Massillon) 14
Union LocalCambridge (Cambridge) 6 at Union Local (Belmont) 48
Columbiana CrestviewCrestview (Columbiana) 60 at Newton Falls (Newton Falls) 0
 
Homer opinion, but I think Greeneview (and accordingly, West Liberty-Salem) are vastly underrated. Fantastic50 has Waynesville 11, Greeneview 17 and Greeneview had no problem beating Waynesville earlier in the season. This may be the year one of those 2 win regional 20.
 
Homer opinion, but I think Greeneview (and accordingly, West Liberty-Salem) are vastly underrated. Fantastic50 has Waynesville 11, Greeneview 17 and Greeneview had no problem beating Waynesville earlier in the season. This may be the year one of those 2 win regional 20.
Don't know about being underrated, but yes either could win R20. R20 does not have a powerhouse team like the other regions in D5.
 
Division VHow they fared...
1 Liberty CenterLiberty Center (Liberty Center) 21 at Patrick Henry (Hamler) 15
2 South RangeSouth Range (Canfield) 55 at Girard (Girard) 27
3 IrontonIronton (Ironton) 48 at Pikeville (Pikeville) [KY] 33
4 Harvest PrepBye
5 GarawayIndian Valley (Gnadenhutten) 40 at Garaway (Sugarcreek) 35
6 VersaillesAnna (Anna) 13 at Versailles (Versailles) 7
7 Columbus AcademyBexley (Columbus) 0 at Columbus Academy (Gahanna) 42
8 BarnesvilleCaldwell (Caldwell) 0 at Barnesville (Barnesville) 44
9 Oak HarborOak Harbor (Oak Harbor) 31 at Otsego (Tontogany) 0
10 Pemberville EastwoodFostoria (Fostoria) 0 at Eastwood (Pemberville) 51
Others
Milan EdisonPerkins (Sandusky) 14 at Edison (Milan) 15
GreeneviewSoutheastern Local (South Charleston) 0 at Greeneview (Jamestown) 33
ManchesterManchester (New Franklin) 46 at Tuslaw (Massillon) 14
Union LocalCambridge (Cambridge) 6 at Union Local (Belmont) 48
Columbiana CrestviewCrestview (Columbiana) 60 at Newton Falls (Newton Falls) 0
1. South Range
2. Liberty Center
3. Ironton
4. Harvest Prep
5. Columbus Academy
6. Edison
7. Versailles
8. Manchester
9. Barnesville
10. Eastwood
 
Never suggested they were going to take it, but they should be mentioned. They will surprise some reams in D5 R17.

Now, if we're being honest as you say, the reality is that you can't take two quarters off and expect to beat a team like SR. After the first quarter, the real Pav showed up. The play calling was atrocious. You can't have a QB that throws a screen to no one. You can't have a kid touch a ball at the 3 yard line that is clearly going out of bounds. You can't have two blocked punts, for God's sake. Poland made a hard game a lot harder.

I gave and will still give SR their due. The conference is theirs until it's not. They are good and well-coached.

Lots of the regular big mouths on here had written off Poland this season and I think they have shown they were wrong so far. There's still some big contests in these next three games and we'll see what the Dogs do. But, to overlook Poland is not wise.
Poland is good. If SR and Garaway are on the same side of the bracket, I could see Poland in the regional final.
 
Edison should leapfrog even if they are from NWO. Impressive win. At least leap frog Ironton, I have them slightly behind Versailles at 6.
 
Edison should leapfrog even if they are from NWO. Impressive win. At least leap frog Ironton, I have them slightly behind Versailles at 6.
I’m actually very curious to hear your argument on why you would put Edison over Ironton? Or even in the top 5? They won a hard fought game against Perkins and I acknowledge that it is a great win but in my opinion South Range, Ironton and Liberty Center are just on another level. Ironically, I may even throw Harvest Prep in that convo as well. I’m aware that Prep lost to Perkins but I do think they handle Edison if they were to meet in the playoffs.
 
Edison should leapfrog even if they are from NWO. Impressive win. At least leap frog Ironton, I have them slightly behind Versailles at 6.
Here is how Drew Pasteur sees the Div 5 rankings. There may be a few slight changes I would make but I think he has the rankings almost spot on. Of course this is all speculation and we will certainly get to see who is top dog come playoff time but I feel that South Range, Ironton and Liberty Center have separated themselves from the pack.

1. #13 Ironton (6-1)
2. #42 South Range (7-0)
3. #64 Liberty Center (7-0)
4. #77 Harvest Prep (5-1)
5. #83 Oak Harbor (7-0)
6. #91 Edison (Milan) (7-0)
7. #110 Garaway (6-1)
8. #118 Manchester (Akron) (7-0)
9. #120 Barnesville (7-0)
10. #123 Eastwood (7-0)
 

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Milan Edison taking out Perkins has to be noted. Put them above Harvest Prep at least. Ironton and Liberty Center should be favorites, with South Range and Edison shortly behind.
Special not about Manchester is that the two years prior they had a record of 1-19. How that happens, I'm not quite sure.
 
Outside of SR and Garaway I would pick both Poland and girard over basically everyone else in that region. It’s very top heavy with 2 really good ones then a huge drop off
330 we usually don't agree because of who you cheer for, so I'm an saying the 3 NE8 teams are had and shoulders above the rest.
Garaway would be a distant 4th.
I see Poland/ Girard vs.SR in regional final.
But let's be honest South Range is on a different level.
They easily win region, but I don't think they are dynamic enough to get to finals
 
330 we usually don't agree because of who you cheer for, so I'm an saying the 3 NE8 teams are had and shoulders above the rest.
Garaway would be a distant 4th.
I see Poland/ Girard vs.SR in regional final.
But let's be honest South Range is on a different level.
They easily win region, but I don't think they are dynamic enough to get to finals
Keep that blue and white away from me lmao
 
I’m actually very curious to hear your argument on why you would put Edison over Ironton? Or even in the top 5? They won a hard fought game against Perkins and I acknowledge that it is a great win but in my opinion South Range, Ironton and Liberty Center are just on another level. Ironically, I may even throw Harvest Prep in that convo as well. I’m aware that Prep lost to Perkins but I do think they handle Edison if they were to meet in the playoffs.
Just taking the transitive argument overboard I guess with the win they had. Prep also had an unbelievable win as well, interested to see how they play Lasalle. As for Ironton, I just think they lack what it takes to win it all. I think Prep beats them this year.
 
Just taking the transitive argument overboard I guess with the win they had. Prep also had an unbelievable win as well, interested to see how they play Lasalle. As for Ironton, I just think they lack what it takes to win it all. I think Prep beats them this year.
Probably an over simplification, but the team that clamps down on Shaun Terry beats Ironton. He's a handful, they just seem to grind & grind until he busts loose. IMHO Ironton's run offense just O.K., pass offense just O.K. Defensively look suspect against a good passing offense.
 
Just taking the transitive argument overboard I guess with the win they had. Prep also had an unbelievable win as well, interested to see how they play Lasalle. As for Ironton, I just think they lack what it takes to win it all. I think Prep beats them this year.
Fair enough. The transitive argument could also be made in the case of Ironton beating Bishop Hartley 41-0. Bishop Hartley lost to Bishop Watterson 28-13 and Ursuline 41-10. Over the years it’s become a common theme to overlook the great teams that come out of southeastern Ohio due to the fact that the football pedigree is so much higher in other areas of the state. Take logistics out of the equation and focus solely on the level of competition played and the outcome of the games. Ironton is a force to be reckoned with and they will demand respect this year. Ironton also beat St Francis, a team out of New York, who beat Cleveland Benedictine earlier this year. There is a reason that Drew Pasteur has Ironton as the favorite to win it all this year.
 
Fair enough. The transitive argument could also be made in the case of Ironton beating Bishop Hartley 41-0. Bishop Hartley lost to Bishop Watterson 28-13 and Ursuline 41-10. Over the years it’s become a common theme to overlook the great teams that come out of southeastern Ohio due to the fact that the football pedigree is so much higher in other areas of the state. Take logistics out of the equation and focus solely on the level of competition played and the outcome of the games. Ironton is a force to be reckoned with and they will demand respect this year. Ironton also beat St Francis, a team out of New York, who beat Cleveland Benedictine earlier this year. There is a reason that Drew Pasteur has Ironton as the favorite to win it all this year.
Watty was up 21-0 at half then a hurricane came and messed everything up. I'm guessing Ironton gave up WAY more yards then Watterson did even in hurricane as Hartley turned ball over what 2-3 times inside red zone on Ironton? the longest run watty gave up was 9 yards man, 9 yards! I saw several 25 plus from Latham on Ironton. I watched 3 quarters of that game online before Hartley. Both dominated Hartley but I would use these scores to prove much between Ursuline, watty and Ironton except they are much better then Hartley.
 
Watty was up 21-0 at half then a hurricane came and messed everything up. I'm guessing Ironton gave up WAY more yards then Watterson did even in hurricane as Hartley turned ball over what 2-3 times inside red zone on Ironton? the longest run watty gave up was 9 yards man, 9 yards! I saw several 25 plus from Latham on Ironton. I watched 3 quarters of that game online before Hartley. Both dominated Hartley but I would use these scores to prove much between Ursuline, watty and Ironton except they are much better then Hartley.
I agree with everything you said. The other gentleman was using the transitive argument to state a claim. I was showing how that argument can go many different ways.
 
I do respect Ironton and Prep for scheduling "up" and trying to prepare for the playoffs. Maybe that will get them over the hump?? I mean Ironton has been in the finals 3 times in the past 5/6 years, so maybe I'm being a overly critical on them, but they lost to NEO in all of them.
 
great job by the chargers over perkins. two of the chargers best players were out with injuries so the more impressive. the one thing that was most impressive was fourth downs in the game. edison had 14 4th downs in the game converting 7of them including in the 4th quarter edison had a 4th and 1 on their own 21 yardline and went for it and got 2 yards for a first down. edison scored later in the 4th quarter and converted the 2 pt conversion for a 15-14 lead AND PERKINS GOT THE BALL and moved to the charger46 when the perkins qb threw the fatal interception and basically that was thegame. edison now 7-0 with port clinton at home this week then vermilion with 6-1 their best in years but the sailors have a big hurdle with huron this week then Edison ends at huron.
 
Both John Fryman (Bryan Times Sportswriter) and Maxell Smith, WMTR radio owner both pick Delta to beat Patrick Henry.
 
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