Stirred not Shaken
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Steve Wiltfong is considered one of the top recruiting analysts in the business. High praise for radio dave i suppose to be compared to Steve Wiltfong.
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Most coaches I've talked to would love to have spring football/7-on-7s. Football has more regualtations than any other sport, it's time to level the playing field.
BirdDog10
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You're not talking to very many coaches then.
BirdDog10
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Level the playing field against what? The whole point of the football regulations in the first place was to regulate the playing field. That's gone now.
cincifbfan
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It's been gone for about 10 years now with the free-for-all nature of transfers.
Oil Filter
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Another step in the slow death of high school sports. Face it: sports are no longer an activity for the enjoyment of students. Rather, they've become another career program geared towards financial rewards for the selected few.
cincifbfan
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Very well said. And it makes you wonder how long sports will continue to be associated with schools. They are an absolute drain on budgets and exponentially more expensive than they were 10 years ago. All of the facility upgrades costing millions that the community pays for, it seems pretty nutty when you really break it down.
Which coaches are you talking to? Spring Football in Ohio sounds great in theory, but in practice, not so much.
For one, look at the schools with spring ball- they're all in the south. States in the south have an entirely different spring sports calendar than states up north. Texas starts high school baseball in February and is all done by early May. Then, they do spring ball in May when the athletes are wrapped up with their spring seasons. This is not a realistic scenario in Ohio.
So in Ohio, when exactly would you do Spring ball? April, in the middle of Spring sports season? Every school will have a varying degree of football players doing different spring sports, but how could a coach possibly run an effective football practice if anywhere from 1/5 to 1/2 their roster isn't there? What's even the point?
Do you do Spring ball in May, when you're still in Spring sports, but maybe have wrapped up some of them? Well, OHSAA has already expanded the summer window to May 15th. So what exactly are we lobbying for, the permission to do a few practices sometime between May 1st-May 15th?
Spring practice in Ohio makes no sense, but opening up the 7v7 circuit to athletes not doing spring sports is a reasonable solution.
reganaustinjames
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Got any proof? Because if you had any, there'd be a 6-page long thread on that topic alone by now.
Schools are being notified today, so look for a press release soon.
reganaustinjames
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It kind of sounds like your source is "Dude, trust me." Because if this was true, we would have heard something by now.
Against other sports. Football has more regulations and rules from the OHSAA than any other sport. Every other sport, athletes are allowed to participate in outside of their season, AAU, JO, Travel Baseball/Softball, Club Soccer....
But God forbid you throw a football out of season.
And if football coaches are so against it, how many of them opted NOT to use the camp days they were given in May?
Didn't Massillon and some other bigger schools host spring 7-on-7s as soon as they were allowed to do so?
If most coaches don't want spring ball, they have a funny way of showing it.
I'm not talking about full on spring ball like they do in the south/college. I'm talking about being able to get out and do 7-on-7s in the spring. Even if it's only 1-2, yes most coaches I've talked to would like to be able to get some work in.
I think OHSAA pays this dude to be on Yappi. He's probably the one that snitched to OHSAA about me buying student tickets for football to avoid their crazy pricing. OHSAA changed their QR code by putting a red box around student tickets for BBall that wasn't there for FB or VBall.
BirdDog10
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It's true. Been all over twitter for the past 2 days
lightspeed84
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Ohio is not a mega school state, we are a state made up of small school districts. Our d1 schools are probably big medium sized schools in most southern states. In NC our d 3 and 4 schools would be in the smallest division. And down there at over 50% of those school spring ball is pointless, your talking to someone that coached at one.
lightspeed84
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This 7 on 7 nonsense will do nothing but harm middle sized and small school sport further. There will be cases of schools losing their second best outfielder or infielder because he has been brain washed into thinking playing 7 on 7 will lead him to scholarship that will likely never happen. Some small schools already struggle fielding a decent baseball team with 9 guys that can throw and catch.
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CantonAnon
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And football is hurt when some kids play fall baseball. It works both ways.
BirdDog10
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That still doesn’t justify football being year round.
chito
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Link?
chito
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I thought the members voted on rule changes?
Ohio high school football players cleared for offseason 7-on-7 competition: What we know
Ohio high school football players have been cleared to participate in offseason 7-on-7 competition by the OHSAA.
www.dispatch.com
BirdDog10
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Ohio high school football players cleared for offseason 7-on-7 competition: What we know
Ohio high school football players have been cleared to participate in offseason 7-on-7 competition by the OHSAA.
www.dispatch.com
"In a change to its general sports regulations, which are publicly available on the OHSAA website, players are allowed to participate in 7-on-7 at camps and play on non-scholastic teams. They may participate in these activities between May 15 and July 31, and showcases that take place before May 15 may contain 7-on-7 segments."
lightspeed84
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I'm not a fan of fall ball, but that is a great point
MassillonTigers3
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Throw in AAU basketball all summer that results in kids not playing football as well
The members vote on changes to the bylaws. Changes to the general sport regulations are done by the board of directors.
I can understand and respect being skeptical of random stuff you hear on the internet, but hey, it turned out to be right this time!
Ohio high school football players cleared for offseason 7-on-7 competition: What we know
Ohio high school football players have been cleared to participate in offseason 7-on-7 competition by the OHSAA.
www.dispatch.com
Dayride
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Please stop with the over exaggeration. This has been the case for decades. Only a select few ever made financial rewards (IE scholarships) from playing high school sports. The teams they played on were filled out by those who are doing it for enjoyment, always have been always will be.
Oil Filter
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Please stop with the lack of comprehension. If you think the current focus on self-promotion and financial benefit and the decisions made to those ends are the same as they have always been, you're an idiot.