And no chance East is 3 spots below West after beating West not once but twice with a 1pt loss to Springboro, a 2pt loss to a non-flu-incapacitated Princeton, and a 5pt loss to Pick Central.I totally agree games should be played out until the end of the season until seeding takes place. But lets be honest if the old drawing was still in effect Princeton would be the clear #1 at this point. Wins over Mason, MND, WW, and East.
I totally get it. But a loss is a loss. I truly believe they would be higher if the coaches voted.And no chance East is 3 spots below West after beating West not once but twice with a 1pt loss to Springboro, a 2pt loss to a non-flu-incapacitated Princeton, and a 5pt loss to Pick Central.
Its 2024, an automated system is expected but LE below LW proves that they don't always pass the eye test.
Totally agree with this. As of today, East is a top 4/5 team EASY. If it was voted, they would at worse be 5th behind Winton Woods. If they voted after they play, and they probably win, then they are 4. With this new system, I think you will see something like this every year, where a team is seeded to low because of losses based on a difficult scheduleAnd no chance East is 3 spots below West after beating West not once but twice with a 1pt loss to Springboro, a 2pt loss to a non-flu-incapacitated Princeton, and a 5pt loss to Pick Central.
Its 2024, an automated system is expected but LE below LW proves that they don't always pass the eye test.
Not possible mathematically. Lakota West plays this week still with a win. As does Goshen. Lebanon is done but has a better record and RPI%. Even with 2 wins this week, Lakota East will not be higher than 9.I think everyone would agree East in under seeded. They do have two games this week that are probable wins. They could end up as 6 seed.
Princeton still clear #1?I totally agree games should be played out until the end of the season until seeding takes place. But lets be honest if the old drawing was still in effect Princeton would be the clear #1 at this point. Wins over Mason, MND, WW, and East.
so Princeton took the Cincinnati route....East jumps in with Woods (and they also play tomorrow).....Top 3 have easy draws to District day...Woods East is a toss up and West Clermont playing West or Kings (again) will be a toss up too....district day I would have to say Princeton, MND, Mason all win....then the Boro/Woods or East matchup being the best one....along the way there are some nice 1st round games etc....but it's all mostly chalkD1 Brackets are up how do we all feel?
Saw that too but looks like they fixed it now. LW is in South 4 and Woods is in South 5.Just looking but seems there is an error on what was uploaded - LW#6 is listed in both South 4 and South 5...looks like one should be #4 WW but anyone know which one?
If Princeton had the first choice for all of the Cincinnati teams, how could they have known where the other teams were going to slot themselves?Princeton chose to play the winner of West Clermont/Lakota West instead of playing Beavercreek/Fairmont. That is very surprising. Usually the #1 seed in Cincinnati plays Dayton 3. Has been that way for a while now.
That leaves possible district matchups:
Winton Woods/Lakota East to play Springboro.
MND to play Beavercreek/Fairmont
Mason against Bellbrook/Sidney.
Princeton against West Clermont/Lakota West
Winton Woods got the toughest draw. 4th seed has to play Lakota East just to get out of the sectional and then Springboro.
Easy projections would be Princeton, Mason, MND and Springboro to the regionals. At least one of them will not make it.
Do not count out Kings in the South 4 sectional with West Clermont and Lakota West.Princeton chose to play the winner of West Clermont/Lakota West instead of playing Beavercreek/Fairmont. That is very surprising. Usually the #1 seed in Cincinnati plays Dayton 3. Has been that way for a while now.
That leaves possible district matchups:
Winton Woods/Lakota East to play Springboro.
MND to play Beavercreek/Fairmont
Mason against Bellbrook/Sidney.
Princeton against West Clermont/Lakota West
Winton Woods got the toughest draw. 4th seed has to play Lakota East just to get out of the sectional and then Springboro.
Easy projections would be Princeton, Mason, MND and Springboro to the regionals. At least one of them will not make it.
Most of the coaches talk before the draw. Especially with the seeds coming out on Saturday. Everyone knew where Springboro was going.If Princeton had the first choice for all of the Cincinnati teams, how could they have known where the other teams were going to slot themselves?
Why would MND have a better chance against Mason than Princeton? Both Princeton & Mason beat them by the same amount of points this season and Mason just beat Princeton on Saturday.I don't actually find it surprising at all, Princeton's only two local losses are to LW and Mason and now they'll have the chance to knock one or both out of the post season. Pretty well scripted if you ask me.
East similarly chose an eventual rematch vs. Boro (if they get past WW), avenging the first game of the season seems very doable (was a 1pt loss but without 2 of their starters who were injured at the time).
MND choosing the rematch with Princeton first before Mason makes a little less sense to me, both were losses in the regular season but the Mason outcome seemed to have better odds to be anyone's game a second time around.
Princeton had a different coach for the vast majority of those seasons.Why would MND have a better chance against Mason than Princeton? Both Princeton & Mason beat them by the same amount of points this season and Mason just beat Princeton on Saturday.
Since 2007-2008 (Mason came to GMC) Mason has lost 12 times when playing a team they played earlier in the season in their last matchup of the year. In that same window of time, Princeton has lost 19 times against a team they played earlier in the season, in their last matchup of the year.
Who is making these odds?
Since Dee has joined Princeton, both teams have lost 1.Princeton had a different coach for the vast majority of those seasons.
I agree, and didn’t Princeton choosing Cincinnati give MND an easier road through Dayton? Why would you pass up playing Walnut/Milford in a sectional and Beavercreek in a district? In order for MND to have seen Mason, they would’ve had to go to where Winton Woods is and play Lakota East in a sectional, Springboro in a district. At that point wouldn’t you just take Princeton in the regional semi? Not much difference in results when they played them both on the road this year, and Mason just beat Princeton at Princeton…Why would MND have a better chance against Mason than Princeton? Both Princeton & Mason beat them by the same amount of points this season and Mason just beat Princeton on Saturday.
Since 2007-2008 (Mason came to GMC) Mason has lost 12 times when playing a team they played earlier in the season in their last matchup of the year. In that same window of time, Princeton has lost 19 times against a team they played earlier in the season, in their last matchup of the year.
Who is making these odds?
Nobody wanted to talk about it all year and now they’re starting to see! Predicted this issue in November when East dropped 3 games against state powers. Feel bad for anyone in their way this tourney! Surprised Goshen, Harrison, and Lebanon jumped in with Mason and Princeton unless they were self-aware and just wanted to get a win.Goshen and Harrison at 7 and 9, while East is 10. Now that is funny!
But at the time MND was choosing they wouldn't have known where East was going and had they chosen South 5 East may not have after so I didn't figure that match-up played into it. I also didn't think MND would need to fear Boro, Boro beat Bellbrook by 20, MND beat them 30. Boro beat Creek by 10, MND beat them 20. Boro beat LE by 1, MND beat them by 10. Probably the only scratch comparison was Centerville, where Boro won by 20 and MND by 15.I agree, and didn’t Princeton choosing Cincinnati give MND an easier road through Dayton? Why would you pass up playing Walnut/Milford in a sectional and Beavercreek in a district? In order for MND to have seen Mason, they would’ve had to go to where Winton Woods is and play Lakota East in a sectional, Springboro in a district. At that point wouldn’t you just take Princeton in the regional semi? Not much difference in results when they played them both on the road this year, and Mason just beat Princeton at Princeton…
Since I was talking about MND's chances of beating Princeton to see Mason vs. beating Mason to see Princeton, why wouldn't how MND played Princeton vs. how MND played Mason factor into the odds over the outcome of how Princeton vs. Mason games or how often either Princeton or Mason wins in the post season?Why would MND have a better chance against Mason than Princeton? Both Princeton & Mason beat them by the same amount of points this season and Mason just beat Princeton on Saturday.
Since 2007-2008 (Mason came to GMC) Mason has lost 12 times when playing a team they played earlier in the season in their last matchup of the year. In that same window of time, Princeton has lost 19 times against a team they played earlier in the season, in their last matchup of the year.
Who is making these odds?
And in the Princeton game, Mari Gerton shot a generational 72% from the floor, 60% from 3 while scoring 28 points in a game that was tied at half and the quarters were split… is she going to get that career free rein like that again?But at the time MND was choosing they wouldn't have known where East was going and had they chosen South 5 East may not have after so I didn't figure that match-up played into it. I also didn't think MND would need to fear Boro, Boro beat Bellbrook by 20, MND beat them 30. Boro beat Creek by 10, MND beat them 20. Boro beat LE by 1, MND beat them by 10. Probably the only scratch comparison was Centerville, where Boro won by 20 and MND by 15.
Since I was talking about MND's chances of beating Princeton to see Mason vs. beating Mason to see Princeton, why wouldn't how MND played Princeton vs. how MND played Mason factor into the odds over the outcome of how Princeton vs. Mason games or how often either Princeton or Mason wins in the post season?
In the MND game vs. Mason, Mason had 24 fouls called in their favor to MND's 12 and Parrish shot a career high 15 FTs in a game with a career high 30pt game. Highly unlikely Parrish gets another career free rein like that, I would've bet on a different outcome in that game over the other.
Taximama with the inevitable and expected “they got all the calls” excuse. When are we going to accept Mason plays better defense than anyone in region and can get stops without fouling?But at the time MND was choosing they wouldn't have known where East was going and had they chosen South 5 East may not have after so I didn't figure that match-up played into it. I also didn't think MND would need to fear Boro, Boro beat Bellbrook by 20, MND beat them 30. Boro beat Creek by 10, MND beat them 20. Boro beat LE by 1, MND beat them by 10. Probably the only scratch comparison was Centerville, where Boro won by 20 and MND by 15.
Since I was talking about MND's chances of beating Princeton to see Mason vs. beating Mason to see Princeton, why wouldn't how MND played Princeton vs. how MND played Mason factor into the odds over the outcome of how Princeton vs. Mason games or how often either Princeton or Mason wins in the post season?
In the MND game vs. Mason, Mason had 24 fouls called in their favor to MND's 12 and Parrish shot a career high 15 FTs in a game with a career high 30pt game. Highly unlikely Parrish gets another career free reign like that, I would've bet on a different outcome in that game over the other.
This was conveniently left out of the response from Taximama.And in the Princeton game, Mari Gerton shot a generational 72% from the floor, 60% from 3 while scoring 28 points in a game that was tied at half and the quarters were split… is she going to get that career free rein like that again?
looking at recent form over the last two weeks, not sure people would agree that Princeton is a harder out than Mason right now.
Yes! Just as good of a shot at making it out as WC/LW. Tournament tested and a great group of experienced seniors. Tough sectional!Do not count out Kings in the South 4 sectional with West Clermont and Lakota West.