Bluestreakoffice
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I am pretty sure you are on point with all three observations
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Bluestreakoffice
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Could have been this game....I was with John Demarco and we were running back and forth from the end zones in the OT's...was a great game to watch.
Ohio Valley’s Greatest Games: 1995 — State Championship Game Ends in Heartbreak for Bellaire
BELLAIRE — Both John Magistro and Jose Davis have been spending a lot of time recently looking at YouTube. Specifically, the former Bellaire head coach and all-state quarterback have been cuing up the videos of the Big Reds’ memorable 1995 season, which culminated with the school’s first...
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1) the gist of the incidents?
2) So was it an enrollment thing or a "they started to get more talented players thing"?
3) Not even sure what you are saying here lol
4) Justus Junta?
30 years ago? That is a long time.
Bluestreakoffice
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I watched that game on tv....that team never recovered after that...to this day still hate Dave Winfield
Rich Kotite
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1. Incidents including the firing of a BB gun (!), a double bird salute in Zoarville, and chants from Tusky Valley fans towards Harrison that would make Senator Robert Byrd proud all rapped up with a tiny bow here:
James Harrison’s complicated high school career
One of the first African-American students at his Ohio high school, Harrison was a one-of-a-kind athlete who was at the center of a few controversies. And through it all, he was pretty much the same guy you see today
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2) So was it an enrollment thing or a "they started to get more talented players thing"? BOTH.
3) Not even sure what you are saying here lol. Manchester "Koach" Jim France helping to push the Comets out of the league. Mo was Coventry's coach, Mo Tipton, who won a ton of games at Orrville before moving on to Akron Hoban and Coventry.
4) Justus Junta? Fairless.
30 years ago? That is a long time. CORRECT.
Bluestreakoffice
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Was he ejected from the Tusky Valley game because of the double bird salute? I know he was ejected by the officials, but was that the incident? I seem to remember there were numerous fights in that game1. Incidents including the firing of a BB gun (!), a double bird salute in Zoarville, and chants from Tusky Valley fans towards Harrison that would make Senator Robert Byrd proud all rapped up with a tiny bow here:
James Harrison’s complicated high school career
One of the first African-American students at his Ohio high school, Harrison was a one-of-a-kind athlete who was at the center of a few controversies. And through it all, he was pretty much the same guy you see today
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Was once told that the Manchester game Harrison was suspended for was the first time Koach beat Mo Tipton (at Orrville & Coventry) and Mo was known to remind anyone around him of that.1. Incidents including the firing of a BB gun (!), a double bird salute in Zoarville, and chants from Tusky Valley fans towards Harrison that would make Senator Robert Byrd proud all rapped up with a tiny bow here:
James Harrison’s complicated high school career
One of the first African-American students at his Ohio high school, Harrison was a one-of-a-kind athlete who was at the center of a few controversies. And through it all, he was pretty much the same guy you see today
2) So was it an enrollment thing or a "they started to get more talented players thing"? BOTH.
3) Not even sure what you are saying here lol. Manchester "Koach" Jim France helping to push the Comets out of the league. Mo was Coventry's coach, Mo Tipton, who won a ton of games at Orrville before moving on to Akron Hoban and Coventry.
4) Justus Junta? Fairless.
30 years ago? That is a long time. CORRECT.
Maybe that's what today's game needs - more cantankerous coaches. Imagine if Koach or Mo got treated like Dalton's Dial (getting called into the boss' office about a parent complaint after playing in state title game) they'd probably have has some colorful language and then driven straight to the parent's home and let some more color fly.
BelowTheLine
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Yes. That was week 9.
Rich Kotite
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You prove my point. Should Eric Musselman never coach Ohio State because his dad (from Wooster HS & former Ashland U head coach) was coach of an ugly fight over 50 years ago?
Now I don't think Eric is a candidate, but he's done a good job at Arkansas except for this year.
FYI, I'd think about Nate Oats from Alabama for the Buckeye hoops job. He knows how to win in basketball at a football school and he's from the Midwest. Besides low taxes, great BBQ (No, not Haitian BBQ, @Raylan_Givens don't go there), and warmer weather in Alabama, he might want to come back north.
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SpeedSafety25
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My mom drove bus for Coventry and she kicked Harrison off her bus for "grabbing girls butts". Pretty sure mom could a taken him at this point. She was 4'11" and could do 15 pullups!
At any rate, the principal came and and forced my mom to drive him over to Jackie lees (not sure of the spelling here). She was not happy. Butt, he was the man at the time so what can you do. Boys will be boys I guess- lol
Rich Kotite
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See this is the inside baseball information you get at PACtionTM.
As for Jackie Lee's, I'm sure @Bluestreakoffice and @TopCat know about it.
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Bluestreakoffice
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I know that was week 9....did he get ejected for the double bird or for fights....there were numerous fights in this game.
Rich Kotite
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He did get ejected for the Manchester game back then after the Bolivar Bar Fight of Studio 212 (not Studio 54).
The next game the Panthers won it 21-12 over Coventry without James Harrison.
James Harrison had issues that need reviewed but as a middle aged guy these days, and reading his Twitter, I think he's settled down and found a good path. I think. I hope. James played one year for the Bengals before going back to the Rooney's after 9 years of great play for the Steelers. The Steeler scouts are top tier and they love Kent State players and Ohio college players in Pittsburgh as they should. Browns and Bengal fans can get mad but it's reality. The Steelers have been really smart since hiring Emperor Chaz in 1969 (or 68?).
Pittsburgh loves Ohio State, Penn State, MAC, and Big Ten players as they should. It's smart.
Also, Koach was amazing on many levels. He was Manchester First. I want that dedication from Congress and the Ohio Legislature.
Manchester First, Ohio First, Western PA First, Tuslaw First, Massillon First, Stark County First, Wayne County First, America First.
I'm starting to think maybe The Slaw has better leadership than years past due to the school board changes and, maybe, the change at AD. I hope! I want to be wrong on Tuslaw about past or current leadership but even my cat would be smart enough to hire Broc Dial if it landed in his lap.
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Bluestreakoffice
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Jackie Lees was an interesting concept...bar, night club, restaurant, a gym, 40 lane bowling alley and more....see below. I went to it a couple of times just do the sheer size...had a theater concept with stage for concerts...I still think the bulk of the building is being used by Coventry...one of the reasons it failed just do the sheer size was where it was located...I mean in the summer if you were over that way you went to the Portage Lakes BarsSee this is the inside baseball information you get at PACtionTM.
As for Jackie Lee's, I'm sure @Bluestreakoffice and @TopCat know about it.
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Bluestreakoffice
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The Tusky Valley ejection meant he was not allowed to play the next two games...seeing this was week 9, his high school career was done. What I am wondering if the ejection was for fighting...that is how I remember it
Rich Kotite
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Correct.
The big schools ala Big Ten backed away from James so he got his academic profile in gear enough after all the mess that Kent gave him a shot. No shot at Kent but he scared away the bigger schools after all that drama and that's why he wound up with the Golden Flashes.
bob99
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Well-ive-never-been-to-spain-but-i-kinda-like-the-music-say-the-ladies-are-insane-there-and-they-sure-know-how-to-use-it
Rich Kotite
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After all the James Harrison and Coventry talk today...I just think the Comets make sense back in PACtionTM if they want it. There's many logical reasons why Coventry makes sense but again it depends if they want it or not.
Rich Kotite
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Well done.
Bluestreakoffice
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I don't have a problem with Eric....his dad that would have been a different story. I still am amazed the Cavs hired him.
I am not sure about Nate Oats...but am sure about the great BBQ...I did like Huntsville...except for Tornado Alley
bob99
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I was there! That was before I quit drinking, so my memory is somewhat fuzzy. Maybe someone can help me remember.
Was that the game that Orrville was the home team but the Bellaire faithful got there early and took all the home side seating between the 40 yard lines? I do remember Jose Davis was a load and fun to watch.
Rich Kotite
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Nate Oats:
Nate Oats - Men's Basketball Coach - Alabama Athletics
When Nate Oats was formally introduced as head men’s basketball coach at The University of Alabama on March 28, 2019, he promised fans would see an entertai...
Let Louisville hire Mick Cronin....Mick is a bad fit for Columbus and Sean Miller in Columbus? No. He should stay at Xavier. He's qualified but no.
Chris Mack? No.
Dusty May of FAU (Florida Atlantic)? No, he'll bolt to Indiana as soon as that job opens in the next 2-3 years and it will.
The lazy Ohio Way(TM) is to hire Diebler but no....he needs more seasoning like Haiti. (Extreme joke for maybe 1% of you.)
I love college basketball.
Bluestreakoffice
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Sorry but Mama told me not to come....so no to Spain also...lol
Bluestreakoffice
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I kinda like Diebler but with the new AD coming in do not see it....and I missed your comment on Diebler earlier...but I do like him...your Haiti joke is extreme...lolNate Oats:
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When Nate Oats was formally introduced as head men’s basketball coach at The University of Alabama on March 28, 2019, he promised fans would see an entertai...rolltide.com
Let Louisville hire Mick Cronin....Mick is a bad fit for Columbus and Sean Miller in Columbus? No. He should stay at Xavier. He's qualified but no.
Chris Mack? No.
Dusty May of FAU (Florida Atlantic)? No, he'll bolt to Indiana as soon as that job opens in the next 2-3 years and it will.
The lazy Ohio Way(TM) is to hire Diebler but no....he needs more seasoning like Haiti. (Extreme joke for maybe 1% of you.)
I love college basketball.
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Rich Kotite
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No offense to you or others here....
But....
No. Diebler needs more seasoning.
That's the lazy Ohio WayTM that isn't long term thinking. That's how we get the mess in the Ohio Legislature and Governor's Office.
Ohio needs higher standards. Period.
Of course it's hard to have higher standards in Columbus when our nerd governor is 4'8" and needs to stand on a box to be over his podium.
Who else but another nerd dwarf like geriatric Les Wexner sees any value in Liddle Mikey DeWine?
There needs to be a complete and full on extended coaching search. Just giving it to Diebler without a serious coaching search is cronyism and lazy IMO. That's how we got Ryan Day and I'm not sold on him whatsoever. Burn me once vs Michigan ok, twice....shame on me, three times....time for big changes, four times is John Blooper "you're fired" territory.
Y'all can say how the Buckeyes had such a great off-season but prove it to me after the 2024 season. Again, I want to be wrong and love the story of Chip Kelly as OC and helping the Buckeyes go all the way or at least beating Ann Arbor....but I'm very skeptical.
2024 is it for me with Ryan Pay Day the $9.5 million dollar man.
I don't ever again want to hear that Detroit clown Gus Johnson calling a Michigan win over the Buckeyes. It sucked.
If Ohio State isn't the Yankees of college football they're at least the Dodgers so let's act like it.
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Bluestreakoffice
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I missed your comment on Diebler earlier I changed my answer...lol...
Ryan Day is putting himself down to one season...win...he stays...lose he is gone. You also seem to forget the great surrender by Michigan...Oh we have covid..we can't play...they play that game and Michigan gets obliterated....best move Harbaugh made before the sign stealing campaign which did affect the second half of the 2022 game. Then the special teams coach blows the fake punt against Georgia...12 players on the field...I was impressed by Kirby Smart calling the time out before the play because the officials had missed it also...take those three games you look at Day a little differently...in this day and age...college football will become G league and almost pro...and will change the college experience...will rivals still be as important with the fan fare for pros instead of not college
Rich Kotite
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You are correct but I give Harbaugh credit. He was a great heel and did what Michigan paid him to do. Win. And he'll win with the LA Chargers.
Harbaugh's roots are from Crestline, Ohio, west of Mansfield. Crestline Bulldogs....their stadium is next to a junkyard. They're the junkyard dogs and they might be playing 8-man football real soon as Crestline is economically depressed. (And why is that, Ohio leadership?).
I do think Michigan will gradually fall apart under their new regime much like their basketball program mess still trying to live off of the Fab 5 from 30 years ago, but I make no excuses for Ryan Pay Day.
2020 could have been rectified if Gene Smith wasn't so lazy and already focused on his retirement even back then. The heat could have been put on Ann Arbor.
2024 is it for Ryan Pay Day. Win or you're gonna be HC of a lesser college team or an OC in the NFL taking his cues from Chip.
I want it to work out but we're at the end here......I'll never give the Detroit Wolverines an inch....and I respect them and love Barberton Bo.
But you're the rival and yinz get my wrath!
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Bluestreakoffice
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I agree totally with the Detroit scUM...no use for that school...I was lucky enough to be at the 97 Rose Bowl and the 2002 National Championship game that sent Miami into oblivion...so the only thing Ohio State has to do for me is beat scUM...I got to witness a national championship and also see a Rose Bowl win...do I want to see more national titles yes...but if they lose I don't take them as hard....concerning Harbaugh I don't think he is that good...his brother saved his behind with the coaches he lent him. Concerning Crestline....did moving Rte 30 out of the center of town hurt them?
Rich Kotite
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Moving 30 totally hurt them but in the big picture it was needed. Badly.
GM closing in neighboring Ontario also hurt them.
Bluestreakoffice
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Oh 30 was a pain going thru there especially when there was a train....I had to go that way to get to Lima...the hospitals in most of those towns were to small for the products that I worked with....they would move those patients to Mansfield, Columbus, Cleveland, or in some cases Toledo. The car plants that were large and American most closed....seemed to be a pattern...the plants in Lorain were huge....Lordstown did hang on but did close...the Honda plant at Marysville is huge...I think a lot of people do not realize how big they were or are...and all the steel plants over in the valley in Youngstown...they were large and they tore all those down