eagleguy106
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There has to be some way to track all matches other than tournaments. How are kids going into post season with Almost 50 matches.
Kids have been getting 50+ matches for decades...How are kids going into post season with Almost 50 matches.
Not sure lying about a record gives you any significant advantage, besides makes you look like a fool when your 42-1 kid get seeded number 1 and gets beat right out the gate. All records are not created equal, Most seed criteria your overall record is the last thing they look at. Typically goes state placement, district placement, sectional placement, winning percentage.
I agree. There are some weights at sectionals without the first 3 criteria and the entire bracket is based off of record. It all gets sorted out once wrestling starts so in the end it doesn't really matter. I pulled up a few random seed nominations and there are surprisingly more than I thought there would be. Gallia, Northwestern, Fitch, Centerville (7 of 14 had no other seed criteria).Not sure lying about a record gives you any significant advantage, besides makes you look like a fool when your 42-1 kid get seeded number 1 and gets beat right out the gate. All records are not created equal, Most seed criteria your overall record is the last thing they look at. Typically goes state placement, district placement, sectional placement, winning percentage.
I get it, you’re saying the Crawford kid should have been the 2 seed and the bracket probably would have fallen differently on the bottom have. Centerville maybe gets the 4 spot and makes it to districts. Instead Fairborn kid lays the preverbal egg.Check out the 215 bracket at Centerville (on track) for a great example of this. Look at the 2 seed's record and the guys that beat him.
The posers get picked off pretty quickly!I agree. There are some weights at sectionals without the first 3 criteria and the entire bracket is based off of record. It all gets sorted out once wrestling starts so in the end it doesn't really matter. I pulled up a few random seed nominations and there are surprisingly more than I thought there would be. Gallia, Northwestern, Fitch, Centerville (7 of 14 had no other seed criteria).
I get it, you’re saying the Crawford kid should have been the 2 seed and the bracket probably would have fallen differently on the bottom have. Centerville maybe gets the 4 spot and makes it to districts. Instead Fairborn kid lays the preverbal egg.
I agree 100% that wrestlers having over 50 matches have been happening for a number of years but decades is pushing it. LOL! I'm not sure exactly, but I'm thinking somewhere in the late 90's I began seeing a few numbers like this.Kids have been getting 50+ matches for decades...
Why is this?We don't have mandatory score/result reporting. Some/many other states do (i.e. PA, MI, NJ, IA)
While I do not have a horse in this race, I do have a thought or two.A database used to keep all this data is not that complicated. The hardest part is collecting the data. If the OHSAA commissioned a simple database that required coaches to enter every single wrestler on their roster, and then also required home team coaches to enter the results of all the matches at their event, the data would be there. The OHSAA could make a rule that says if the result is not in the database, it can’t be counted on their record for sectional seeding purposes
Those states have the scores reported through Track.Why is this?
Also, how is mandatory score/results reporting implemented in those states?
I mean, I could write up a design doc and send it out for bids to see how much it would cost, present it to the committee and they could vote on it if they are interested. It doesn’t have to be that complicated. All it would do would verify which matches happened, their results and then things could be added down the road as needed.While I do not have a horse in this race, I do have a thought or two.
I have zero experience in creating a data base BUT I can tell you that the OHSAA pretty much forces schools and officials to use programs that they pay for in order to schedule events and assign officials. Previously Arbiter was used and now Dragonfly is their choice. They did not, for whatever reason, choose to have an in-house program developed.
In addition the program with their name on it, myOHSAA, is about worthless and certainly would not be up to the demands needed for this sort of application.
In short, I just don't see it happening.
I mean, I could write up a design doc and send it out for bids to see how much it would cost, present it to the committee and they could vote on it if they are interested. It doesn’t have to be that complicated. All it would do would verify which matches happened, their results and then things could be added down the road as needed.