smurfyeah19
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Liberty Benton being essentially traded for Fostoria would be interesting for sure. The NBC would be among the most competitive small school conferences in the state if that happened
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There is talk at maumee that their incoming freshmen are a “special class.” They beat perrysburg last year.
Their current freshmen has success in football and basketball.
Those two classes back to back and maumee moving to the nbc will make things interesting
Do all those incoming 8th graders stay at Maumee though? From what I’ve gathered, that’s been the issue in Maumee.
smurfyeah19
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I’d love to see it. Eastwood has made a habit of whooping on Bowling Green and Maumee for awhile now, even when they had playoff seasons. Regardless, a league of Eastwood, Genoa, Lake, Liberty Benton, Maumee, Oak Harbor, Otsego and Rossford is going to be stout across the board in just about every sport
Probably not.
So far ive only heard good things, could be looking at 25+ freshman football players for the first time in years with a big class behind them too. Unless something changes over the summer the varsity looks like it may have its best numbers in years as well.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like it's been since 2014 that they've been competitive? They might have been 4-6 but that was a good league back then. Let me know if I missed a year. Also, are enrollment numbers trending up at all? It might have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread but I'm not scrolling through 180 pages.
In 2017 they were 6-4 (4-3). Two of those losses were to state runner-up Eastwood and Anthony Wayne. They beat Perrysburg as well that year.
In 2016 they were 4-6 (2-5 NLL) but lost there top 2 quarterbacks by week 6 for most of the remaining games. As stated, in 2017 they went 6-4 (4-3 NLL). Since then it’s been a struggle for numerous reasons that have been discussed but they had a very young roster last year with a lot of experienced lineman back and a few talented athletes back as well. Enrollment has sat right around 180-200 total students per class for the last 8 years or so, I don’t think that’s changing much going forward.
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After checking Eitel I noticed that in 2011 and 2012 Maumee was pretty darn good. My bad on missing the 2017 record.
I know it's hard to project ahead too much, but how long can they maintain 25 frosh per year? If they get squad numbers up that would certainly bode well.
I know it's hard to project ahead too much, but how long can they maintain 25 frosh per year? If they get squad numbers up that would certainly bode well.
I think 20+ each year at Maumee is more than doable for an incoming freshmen class. That would be roughly 20% of boys in that specific class playing football.
Kind of crazy that there used to be freshman rosters alone with 35-40 boys on them. Just a sign of the times I guess.
irish_buffalo
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We had 80 on my freshman team. Both boys had 40-50.
Specialization and bottle necking kids at young ages ("travel" ball) has killed participation.
irish_buffalo
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Both Eastwood and Otsego had varsity gameday rosters of roughly 40-45 kids last year if I am not mistaken. If Maumee's numbers are to improve they could walk into a Friday night game outmanning their opponent with 30 more kids, which matters immensely.
split_finger
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There will be fewer Maumee freshman in the future leaving for "greener pastures"...
In a few years, Maumee will be doing very well in the NBC in almost all sports (boys & girls). Some schools don't want to admit it yet, but they are going to be seasonal doormats once Oak Harbor joins and Maumee starts winning again against much smaller schools. Playing sports for Maumee will be a lot of fun again... Instead of getting drilled by much larger NLL schools, Maumee will be the big dog (much bigger) in the conference. Maumee also has open enrollment, correct?
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smurfyeah19
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Damn who let Skip Bayless create an account? Eastwood has been big dog of the SLL/NBC since the early 2000s, heck I'd wager them and Genoa have won 50% of all boys sports championships since the NBC was created. For perspective, since 2002 Eastwood has won 11 league championships in football followed by Genoa with 7. Not counting the Covid year, Lake in 2015 & Otsego last year are the only other schools to win outside of the other two schools
BirdDog10
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Do they not dress freshmen? That’s seems pretty small for those schools
Genoa will have another really good stretch here these next 4-5 years. Eastwood will still be at near or at the top with football. Elmwood will have a really good shot at winning the conference in their final season next year, but then there will be a huge drop off for them . Otsego's time has come and gone...their 7th and 8th grade teams went winless this past fall.
Maumee is probably still waiting until fall of '24 or '25 before they can compete at top of NBC. Oak Harbor will come in and compete right away.
green_genes
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Yep. If Maumee can compete with Eastwood year in and year out, they'd be the third best football program in the pre-expansion NLL.
I'll believe Maumee can compete with Eastwood and Lake in girls' basketball when I see it - same with girls' soccer.
They will probably be the 2nd best in boys' soccer behind Genoa.
Baseball? Eastwood and Lake are always good. Maumee lost to Rossford in the tournament last year: the 5th best program in the league.
split_finger
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Skip Bayless... Funny guy
It does matter, for sure, but only the best 11 are on the field at a time. Depth will still be there for a lot of these other schools, even with less kids.
There were some ties for the title in there, so another couple schools could be added to that list.
CCHS93
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Basketball and soccer travel coaches really push the specialization. I asked Jason Candle the question at an event about specialization vs multi sport athletes and he was strongly in favor pf multi sport athletes. Of course, football really isnt year round while its easier to go year around with the others. I prefer athletes versus specialists.
eastisbest
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There's rarely a lot of depth if those best 11 do not have quality to practice against. In-game? Different schemes, different reasons and different positions but depth matters. Kids get gassed too.
Maumee has traditionally had around 20-24 freshman per year for over a decade with an outlier class of 26-30. The struggle has been keeping the classes above 15+ as they get older but this years team should be the first in a while that has accomplished that. Coutcher became head coach when the incoming seniors were freshman and I believe that is a big reason why more kids have stayed in the program. I think the other NLL schools have had similar freshman numbers outside of Perrysburg and AW with around 30-35 a year.
Eastwood typically does not dress all freshmen, but I believe they did this past year. Their sophomore class was extremely small with only 9 football players. The junior class wasn't much larger with 13-14 guys.
To my knowledge, there were only 3 NLL freshman teams last year...if that is any indicator of where the numbers are around the league.
irish_buffalo
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Incredibly sad. It shows in the talent pool. There are kids that did not start for some of the bigger schools in the area even 10 years ago that would be impact players for area teams today. Some of the recent "big time" QB recruits would have been just another local guy not long ago either.
irish_buffalo
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Only idiots fail to understand the importance of depth and its advantages over opponents without the same numbers. I have heard coaches say that they do not want "hang around" kids on the team. Those coaches usually fail. It is EASY to coach the good kids. It is tough to build a program and develop kids. Good programs are built around depth.
The ability to practice better, the ability for more and better reps at practice, internal competition, to be able to spell starters not only on O & D but also on special teams, the ability to backfill injuries, should I go on? If Maumee has a numbers advantage they will be successful.
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