Mid-State League ‘21-22

 
I know the most about the Ohio Division. Worthington Christian will be rebuilding but have a some pieces that will keep them competitive. Buckeye Valley I think has to be the preseason favorite. Grandview Hts returns the core of there Regional qualify team from last year. Whitehall will be Whitehall and be competitive. Bexley and Columbus Academy will be up and coming. Wellington School is unknow to me as to what they have coming back.
1. Buckeye Valley
2.Grandview Hts
2. Whitehall
2. Worthington Christian
5. Columbus Academy
5. Bexley
5. Wellington School
 
The Dock’s pick for “2nd in the Cardinal” is in...

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Wellington lost 2 starters I believe, including Marcus Stewart, who averaged nearly 18 ppg (according to the somewhat reliable 270 Hoops site). They do return a couple of athletic bigs (and tend to usually add a couple of new players via the transfer portal it seems). Finding a reliable PG will be key for them.

I gotta admit, I'm a little less knowledgeable than past years. I didn't get to a tournament game last year so I don't have a program to review rosters of D4 teams for the MSL Cardinal. Based on the somewhat accurate rosters of the best available resources from last year (270 Hoops and team HUDL pages), I think I would guess...I really don't know haha. I had something typed out but then realized how loose my thoughts were, so I figured I'd go to a very penciled-in list with more questions than answers.

- GCC: A year away? They didn't have any juniors or seniors who contributed last year, right? Maybe sort of in a Millersport situation from two years ago with no seniors but lots of potential.
- FC: Seems like every year they lose a bunch of seniors and the machine keeps rolling. Having so many multi-sport athletes allows them to use their athleticism to stay competitive regardless of how many basketball specialists they have.
- BU: Who steps up with Unger gone? What's the chemistry going to look like? They didn't lose alot of players overall what the looks of it, but new roles will need to be found. There were some baffling scores last year with them too, so consistency may prevent them from being a top team record-wise in the conference.
- FCA: They had a really solid JV team a couple years ago but I heard that they not all of those players are still at FCA. Been a few down years though. Is Hooper still there? Thought I heard a rumor he was considering retirement but maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
- Millersport: No clue on them. Losing Purvis (who I personally believe should have been District POY) is impossible to replace. No idea what they have coming back, but it did seem like last season was a bit of a disappointment. Playing only conference games didn't help the overall record I'm sure. What a bummer to have that highly anticipated season in the Covid year.
- Rosecrans & Miller: I know nothing and will assume nothing other than Miller probably isn't going to be good and that Rosecrans is usually a tough out.
 
Rosecrans graduates Spohn and Merva, and a few others -- but they're always pretty solid. Rock will have them ready, away from and at the Rogge.

Berne's going to have some solid chemistry between their seniors and juniors (common denominator is the kids play baseball with each other.) They're not going to have a singular scoring threat, per se, and probably not even a kid that can shoot the lights out.

I think GCC will be the best of the rest, and firmly in second place. Ransom is a baller, and his friends showed sparks of their own. Ball-handling looked solid. Increase the quality of 'defense' and get more shots knocked down from the perimeter, and they're going to have the league's best chance at a District Title (at least a Finals Appearance.)

FCA - Hooper is still there. Great coach. They graduated their best player, their best returning player is going to be a junior (Keener brother.) Rauch will have a vastly improved year compared to when he was a freshman. IMO. It'll be very cool to see him flourish on the hardwood in front of his dad (for those who don't know, Steve Rauch is the gentleman that has done play-by-play for FCA and did game coverage for the station that was WFCO.) I'm not expecting a real-shattering year out of FCA, but who knows? They could come out of nowhere. 4th or 5th is possible!

Miller - they're going to be down.

Millersport - GOOD LORD... THEY GRADUATED A TON. Don't look at their roster for Arbiter, last season. Don't!

FC - yeah I honestly have no real idea what to expect of the Irish, other than that they're going to be bringing some serious beef onto the court. My understanding is three of their starters are going to be seniors that are long-time starting offensive linemen/tight end for football team, with the fourth starter possibly being the RB and 4-hole hitter for baseball? If indeed that is 4 of their starting 5, they're going to be pretty well-conditioned as well from baseball/track and football. And bigger than The Beatles. So, yeah -- Snowman! You're correct in your astute observation... but ironically for a reason different than what you were thinking. Haha. Do they know who is going to be running point for them? The part that has me a little worried, and maybe this worry is just a product of not really being able to watch them and the JV this last season: unclear who even is going to be their first two off the bench.
 
Appreciate that rundown of the Cardinal Dock. My level of knowledge is slightly higher in the MOCAL, so I'll toss those thoughts in here if that's alright. Feel free to skip over it for MSL discussions, but the MOCAL doesn't need its own thread and is probably affiliated closer to the Cardinal than any other conference. I also have an insanely bold prediction that I need to remember to look back on, but first is a less bold prediction:

The MOCAL will be significantly better over the next 1-4 years. Not saying they'll compete with the Cardinal from top to bottom, but I don't think it'll be a situation where only the top couple teams in the MOCAL would squeak by the bottom teams in the Cardinal. Personally I could see both divisions (and all of D4 Central) really stepping up a level.

Tree - Returning conference champs and only lose a couple backups. They pick up more transfers than about any other small school and I've heard they may have already picked up one. They had a transfer from Gahanna Lincoln last year who sat out the second half of the year who is an impact defensive player. Lastly, they have a ton of length. I believe they'll start at least 3 active guys 6'2" or taller with long arms and the others aren't much shorter. Doesn't sound like much, but athletic length at a small school is enough to keep you competitive, especially in this conference. Definite favorite to win it again and likely compete out of conference as well.

Shekinah - 0 seniors last year. Problem is that they are the opposite of Tree in terms of length. I saw a game online last year where they started 3 guys who appeared to be 5'8" and smaller. Really hard to compete against Tree and other big teams with that. But they will have lots of experience returning from their 2nd place team. They also have a really good wing who carried them at times last year.

Granville - Lost a couple starters but return the POY in the conference. Benvie is my early pick to win District POY. He had 39 in a half for crying out loud haha. Kid can really play and has a younger brother on the team too. They have been slowly picking up some out of conference wins in recent years but haven't really put it all together yet.

Madison - Theoretically should be better. They had a nice bounce back year a season ago and only graduated 2 players. Not saying they'll dominate but I don't think they're in for another 1-win season.

Delaware - Lost alot last season but have a ton of height. I think they have 5 posts around 6'3"+. Guard play is a concern though. They lose a 1,000 point scorer and a 3-year starter.

Liberty (I know someone who sends their kid there) - Last year they lost a bunch of close games and Covid made it tough with a first year coach. Their JV was strong and their middle school teams have been strong lately FWIW. They had a tall (6'4"?) 8th grader who could make an instant impact in high school. They did graduate alot but return their leading scorer. Not sure they'll be a top-half team this year and they don't exactly have a tradition of winning, but the pieces are there for the future as their school continues to grow.

BOLD PREDICTION: Northside Christian will win a District Title (maybe Regional Title) within 4 years.

Northside: Yeah I said it. The team that hasn't competed in the conference for over 20 years is set to completely dominate the MOCAL and likely D4 Central District, maybe as early as 2022-23. I've watched their middle school team play and they won every conference game by 25+, usually that amount was by halftime. And yes I realize junior high isn't the same, that development goes a long way, and Northside doesn't have a history of developing their players. I'm sticking with it. Here's why (I heard this from a MOCAL middle school coach and have seen their 8th grade team play):

- 2 years ago, their middle school added the best player they have ever had. He is a 6'5" guard who plays for AAU for All Ohio Red and is a possible D1 prospect ranked as a top 25 prospect from Columbus (from what I've been told anyway, but who knows in 8th grade?). Incredible vision, shoots lights out, and can also run point. He threw down a weak-hand dunk in the 8th grade game I saw last year. Kids like this don't play for MOCAL schools.
- The father of the stud freshman was the middle school coach the last two seasons and also coached in AAU. He had those junior high kids playing extremely intense defense, something Northside always had been lacking. I believe he will be helping coach the high school team going forward.
- The rest of the current class of 8th graders has been highly anticipated for many seasons. They work together on their own in the offseason and have for years.
- They have a legitimate offseason program this year and are attending a team camp. Yes, this is normal for most schools. But from what my friend said this is the first time they have done anything basketball-related in the summer for years.
- They always have height and that will continue for at least the near future. Next season they will likely start 6'6", 6'5" (freshman guard), 6'4". Their issue has always been guard play, but that seems to be resolved.

It will likely take a year to come together on a consistent basis, but it wouldn't surprise me if they finish in the top 3rd of the conference this year and really take off in 2022-23. Also, any incoming success may bring in some transfers in the future. They are located in a great spot in Westerville, but most private schoolers who seek to play basketball go to Tree of Life or Columbus Academy. The school is expanding its facilities and seems to be growing rapidly. It wouldn't surprise me to see some of those guys go to Northside if they put together a couple strong years.

So there you have it. If I'm wrong, please bring it up 4 years from now and rub it in my face to discount anything I say going forward. But for now, the future at Northside (and the entire MOCAL really) is trending upward more than it ever has before.
 
Appreciate that rundown of the Cardinal Dock. My level of knowledge is slightly higher in the MOCAL, so I'll toss those thoughts in here if that's alright. Feel free to skip over it for MSL discussions, but the MOCAL doesn't need its own thread and is probably affiliated closer to the Cardinal than any other conference. I also have an insanely bold prediction that I need to remember to look back on, but first is a less bold prediction:
It's all good!

The MOCAL will be significantly better over the next 1-4 years. Not saying they'll compete with the Cardinal from top to bottom, but I don't think it'll be a situation where only the top couple teams in the MOCAL would squeak by the bottom teams in the Cardinal. Personally I could see both divisions (and all of D4 Central) really stepping up a level.
Aww yeah! Noted on TOL.
Shekinah - 0 seniors last year. Problem is that they are the opposite of Tree in terms of length. I saw a game online last year where they started 3 guys who appeared to be 5'8" and smaller. Really hard to compete against Tree and other big teams with that. But they will have lots of experience returning from their 2nd place team. They also have a really good wing who carried them at times last year.
It could be the case that Shekinah is anticipating a good incoming freshmen class. I've heard they're expecting some good things out of the incoming freshmen for baseball, so I expect those kids will be bigger and more attuned to high school sports than some of the kids that might have played hoops for them this past year (IDK, didn't get to see their basketball team -- only baseball.)
Granville - Lost a couple starters but return the POY in the conference. Benvie is my early pick to win District POY. He had 39 in a half for crying out loud haha. Kid can really play and has a younger brother on the team too. They have been slowly picking up some out of conference wins in recent years but haven't really put it all together yet.
Better than Jay Burson's son, eh?! My words, not yours'. I can believe it. I've heard that kid can ball.
BOLD PREDICTION: Northside Christian will win a District Title (maybe Regional Title) within 4 years.
Oh snap!
Northside: Yeah I said it. The team that hasn't competed in the conference for over 20 years is set to completely dominate the MOCAL and likely D4 Central District, maybe as early as 2022-23. I've watched their middle school team play and they won every conference game by 25+, usually that amount was by halftime. And yes I realize junior high isn't the same, that development goes a long way, and Northside doesn't have a history of developing their players. I'm sticking with it. Here's why (I heard this from a MOCAL middle school coach and have seen their 8th grade team play):
- 2 years ago, their middle school added the best player they have ever had. He is a 6'5" guard who plays for AAU for All Ohio Red and is a possible D1 prospect ranked as a top 25 prospect from Columbus (from what I've been told anyway, but who knows in 8th grade?). Incredible vision, shoots lights out, and can also run point. He threw down a weak-hand dunk in the 8th grade game I saw last year. Kids like this don't play for MOCAL schools.
- The father of the stud freshman was the middle school coach the last two seasons and also coached in AAU. He had those junior high kids playing extremely intense defense, something Northside always had been lacking. I believe he will be helping coach the high school team going forward.
Man, no kidding?! I'm surprised he ended up at Northside, and not the Christian school with the better basketball reputation that's 10 minutes to the west.
- The rest of the current class of 8th graders has been highly anticipated for many seasons. They work together on their own in the offseason and have for years.
- They have a legitimate offseason program this year and are attending a team camp. Yes, this is normal for most schools. But from what my friend said this is the first time they have done anything basketball-related in the summer for years.
- They always have height and that will continue for at least the near future. Next season they will likely start 6'6", 6'5" (freshman guard), 6'4". Their issue has always been guard play, but that seems to be resolved.
Great to read and hear on Northside, and how they're coming around with a good foundation to pave the way for big things. And yeah, they always have height.
It will likely take a year to come together on a consistent basis, but it wouldn't surprise me if they finish in the top 3rd of the conference this year and really take off in 2022-23. Also, any incoming success may bring in some transfers in the future. They are located in a great spot in Westerville, but most private schoolers who seek to play basketball go to Tree of Life or Columbus Academy. The school is expanding its facilities and seems to be growing rapidly. It wouldn't surprise me to see some of those guys go to Northside if they put together a couple strong years.

So there you have it. If I'm wrong, please bring it up 4 years from now and rub it in my face to discount anything I say going forward. But for now, the future at Northside (and the entire MOCAL really) is trending upward more than it ever has before.
I always wondered if any MOCAL school (pick any of them) would experience a meteoric rise in short time, but had it in my mind it would come in some manner like getting a transplant student or two from overseas (which is not a totally unusual thing to see happen with some of the Christian school basketball factories or one-and-dones that have popped up nationwide over the years.) But not like this!
 
Oh shoot how could I forget about Burson haha. Ok maybe second best. I saw Benvie did the Battle for the City thing put on by 270 Hoops and did well, so he could probably carry them.

That same middle school coach told me a couple of rumors. I’d like to stress this is second hand so take it with a grain of salt, but he said that Shekinah had a freshman who is supposed to grow to 7-feet. Said he didn’t do anything in middle school but that’s what their coach told him, so that could be a game changer.

The other rumor was about that stud from Northside. Apparently WC has been “recruiting him hard to the point (he) couldn’t believe they would offer him what they did.” Again, second hand info. But I guess his uncle teaches at Northside and his cousin was a freshman who started varsity last year, so maybe they wanted to keep it in the family.

I have no idea if Wellington/Grandview will be D4 in the future, but if they aren’t then it wouldn’t surprise me to see GCC and Northside win a couple district titles.

Are you aware of any strong freshman classes coming up in the Cardinal? Would be real fun to see both conferences elevate Central D4 from the cellar.
 
Hoping to see GCC at least 5-6 times this season. It is a fun place to watch a game when the students are active participants. I have a feeling several small schools like GCC will see a spike in their home game attendance for at least a year or two. I am not taking opportunities to watch my family or friends for granted any longer. Gonna be out and about as much as possible. I will see Chris very soon. Looking forward to hearing how summer ball is going.
 
Oh shoot how could I forget about Burson haha. Ok maybe second best. I saw Benvie did the Battle for the City thing put on by 270 Hoops and did well, so he could probably carry them.

That same middle school coach told me a couple of rumors. I’d like to stress this is second hand so take it with a grain of salt, but he said that Shekinah had a freshman who is supposed to grow to 7-feet. Said he didn’t do anything in middle school but that’s what their coach told him, so that could be a game changer.

The other rumor was about that stud from Northside. Apparently WC has been “recruiting him hard to the point (he) couldn’t believe they would offer him what they did.” Again, second hand info. But I guess his uncle teaches at Northside and his cousin was a freshman who started varsity last year, so maybe they wanted to keep it in the family.

I have no idea if Wellington/Grandview will be D4 in the future, but if they aren’t then it wouldn’t surprise me to see GCC and Northside win a couple district titles.

Are you aware of any strong freshman classes coming up in the Cardinal? Would be real fun to see both conferences elevate Central D4 from the cellar.
Hey -- wait a second. The KMAC is the cellar conference of Central D4!

Not aware of any strong freshman classes with the Cardinal. Then again, the Cardinal is kind of an aimless concept for JH competition and development?

No disrespect to Northside, but I just would've personally picked WC. A season of playing at NCS in high school will show the difference between the two experiences, and definitely the difference between playing there and at any larger school for the matter.
 
Hoping to see GCC at least 5-6 times this season. It is a fun place to watch a game when the students are active participants. I have a feeling several small schools like GCC will see a spike in their home game attendance for at least a year or two. I am not taking opportunities to watch my family or friends for granted any longer. Gonna be out and about as much as possible. I will see Chris very soon. Looking forward to hearing how summer ball is going.
The Nest is a blast, for sure!
 
This year could be a holding pattern for Fisher’s basketball. Their numbers are low and unlikely to have many big scoring threats. The defense will keep them in games and the seniors are great athletes. But there is not much behind them in the 10th and 11th grade. Effort and intensity will keep them respectable without any shooters or primary post presence.
 
This year could be a holding pattern for Fisher’s basketball. Their numbers are low and unlikely to have many big scoring threats. The defense will keep them in games and the seniors are great athletes. But there is not much behind them in the 10th and 11th grade. Effort and intensity will keep them respectable without any shooters or primary post presence.
A holding pattern for... what??? An incoming class of five kids that play basketball year-round? Influx of 7' Sub-Saharan youth coming to Lancaster? Something unforeseen, for better or for worse?

"Holding pattern" implies something is ahead, as in something to look forward to. Or something that inevitably will have to happen. If you're saying it will be a hold because they might be down, you can just say that. No one would be bothered. Folks understand that there are periods of waxes-and-wanes with basically any FC sport. Boys' hoops isn't immune to that, and one could argue the current program has experienced their own waning period of numbers and talent. Nevertheless, they overcome! A down year this year and/or next year is a small price to pay for a string of respectable campaigns the 4/5 or 5/5 of the 'starting five' graduates every year.
 
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Finally able to get back into the summer routine.

GCC will be better this year but still young. Will start two juniors and three Sophs. They will surprise people but still think middle of the pack. I heard the same thing from a parent about June being a little rocky for them with some injuries.

Don't count Berne out. Losing Unger is big but they have a good young group in that Soph class as well.

Rosecrans will be good as well. They lose a ton of scoring but also bring back a great shooter who already had some length. If they can get 1 or 2 around him, Rock will be right there.

FCA will have the guard play but not sure of much outside that.

Millersport brings back the big red head kid and a lefty shooter as well. There JV was bad but with them bringing back football, that could help.

FC always seems to reload. Not counting them out either.

Harvest posted some pictures from team camp on Twitter. Check them out and see what you think.
 
I did see on 270 that Michael Redd's son is going to be a Freshman at WC. That should help with a nice reload.

Grandview will be good and probably repeat at the D4 level for a few years.

Interesting take on the MOCAL. I have heard about the kid from Northside as well. I am interested to see if he sticks it out there. If he is as good as I have heard, I feel like it is a disservice to stay at Northside. Most college coaches will see what type of competition he is playing, unless they go load the non conference. If you look at Arbiter, the best non-conference game is Grandview to open the season. They will have to change how they schedule to get him some looks.
 
Finally able to get back into the summer routine.

GCC will be better this year but still young. Will start two juniors and three Sophs. They will surprise people but still think middle of the pack. I heard the same thing from a parent about June being a little rocky for them with some injuries.

Don't count Berne out. Losing Unger is big but they have a good young group in that Soph class as well.

Rosecrans will be good as well. They lose a ton of scoring but also bring back a great shooter who already had some length. If they can get 1 or 2 around him, Rock will be right there.

FCA will have the guard play but not sure of much outside that.

Millersport brings back the big red head kid and a lefty shooter as well. There JV was bad but with them bringing back football, that could help.

FC always seems to reload. Not counting them out either.

Harvest posted some pictures from team camp on Twitter. Check them out and see what you think.
Problem with the big kid from Millersport is he probably has a bunch of people in his ear telling him to play football, while the baseball coaches likely want him to ditch basketball and work on pitching instead over the winter.
 
I did see on 270 that Michael Redd's son is going to be a Freshman at WC. That should help with a nice reload.

Grandview will be good and probably repeat at the D4 level for a few years.

Interesting take on the MOCAL. I have heard about the kid from Northside as well. I am interested to see if he sticks it out there. If he is as good as I have heard, I feel like it is a disservice to stay at Northside. Most college coaches will see what type of competition he is playing, unless they go load the non conference. If you look at Arbiter, the best non-conference game is Grandview to open the season. They will have to change how they schedule to get him some looks.
That, but also... the kid will for sure be playing 32/32 minutes for NCS every game he dresses. That's hard. Just one of those deals where it probably makes more sense to just attend one of the Westerville publics or WC.
 
They will be down, so the holding could be threading in freshmen and sophomores for majority of playing. Get them the experience now to compete down the line.
 
I saw that Shawn Williams, former assistant at Harvest Prep, is the new coach at Centennial (at the age of 23.) HP alum Quintin Aden has been the head coach at Independence for a couple season. Made me think: could there be more branches off the Dennis tree in coaching?
 
Finally able to get back into the summer routine.

Harvest posted some pictures from team camp on Twitter. Check them out and see what you think.
They look like they have some dudes this year. Some kids definitely have been in the weight room.

I love the HPS bucket hat that Dennis is rocking, too. I may need to get one.
 
Tree - Returning conference champs and only lose a couple backups. They pick up more transfers than about any other small school and I've heard they may have already picked up one. They had a transfer from Gahanna Lincoln last year who sat out the second half of the year who is an impact defensive player. Lastly, they have a ton of length. I believe they'll start at least 3 active guys 6'2" or taller with long arms and the others aren't much shorter. Doesn't sound like much, but athletic length at a small school is enough to keep you competitive, especially in this conference. Definite favorite to win it again and likely compete out of conference as well.
So a thought popped into my head scrolling through Zach Fleer's Twitter: what stops, or holds back, the smaller private schools in the Columbus metro for accumulating diamonds-in-the-rough talent or even solid/D2 level talent in hoops?
 
Ramble alert now that you’ve got me thinking: There’s some players who make it out, it just doesn’t get exposure when there’s so many bigger schools in the area. I believe every mocal team has sent someone to play in college in the last 5-10 years, but it’s tough to get noticed when your competition isn’t consistently strong.

I do wonder though. If you want to be a college basketball player but are behind a stud like Sean Jones or Ajay Sheldon and basketball is really your passion, there’s no shortage of local schools that you could go to. Maybe the AAU circuit has changed that since high school game recruiting isn’t what it used to be.

I’d say about every team has a few diamond in the roughs that nobody knows about because they play for a small school in a big school area. If you go north to Mansfield where it’s predominantly middle and small a schools, the media coverage is terrific for them. But why cover a D4 player with 20 points per game when you can cover a D1 with 15 against way better competition?

I think what really hurts is the collection on of talent on each team as a whole. If I had to guess, an average D4 team might have 1-2 legit starters at, say, an average D2 school and maybe 2-3 other thus who would be bench players. But if a college coach came to scout a HS game (do they still do that?) and watched the layup line, they’d probably walk right out the door at some of those games.

The luck is to have all the best players line up in one class and stick around. The Northside situation is sort of a perfect storm this year. I think back to some of Tree of Life or FCA’s better teams and they had depth that was more than 4 guys who could make a layup (although Tree is the exception to bringing new players in every year since they have a reputation and good location for all of Columbus to come). Shekinah Christian had a class about 10 years ago where they sent 2 or 3 guys to college. Delaware Christian has sent 2 kids to play in the last 7 years, including a guy who gets some mop up time at a D2.

Overall, I’d be willing to bet that there are a couple kids on smaller schools who would be playing in college if they played on a bigger and better team. But I think padding stats against some of the smallest schools in the state doesn’t really count for much. Play AAU and get noticed I guess?
 
Two schools threatened to leave the MSL-Cardinal a couple years ago because other schools were getting transfers in boys sports. Said that some of the league cared too much about winning. If true those two still have the same people as back then. So there might not be down flow in the Card.
 
Two schools threatened to leave the MSL-Cardinal a couple years ago because other schools were getting transfers in boys sports. Said that some of the league cared too much about winning. If true those two still have the same people as back then. So there might not be down flow in the Card.
I'm not entirely sure if that is true. An AD in the Cardinal did publicly accuse a fellow school of recruiting (two actually) this past winter and did so on video. Aside from that, I've never actually heard of schools threatening to leave.


To Snowman's point: that's an interesting point on media coverage, and how that shapes the ideas of who is remotely high-level to the common fan that isn't directly looped into the college recruiting circuit. I'm inclined to also agree that it depends on who you play alongside.
 
I did see on 270 that Michael Redd's son is going to be a Freshman at WC. That should help with a nice reload.

Grandview will be good and probably repeat at the D4 level for a few years.

Interesting take on the MOCAL. I have heard about the kid from Northside as well. I am interested to see if he sticks it out there. If he is as good as I have heard, I feel like it is a disservice to stay at Northside. Most college coaches will see what type of competition he is playing, unless they go load the non conference. If you look at Arbiter, the best non-conference game is Grandview to open the season. They will have to change how they schedule to get him some looks.


That's pretty neat that Michael Redd's son is going to be a Freshman at WC.
 
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