UC Bearcats

brianwr112 said:
Bearcat fans should get used to this type of performance under the new coach. Louisville fans still thank you
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Unfortunately UC will be at the bottom of the Big 12 in football and basketball with Cunningham in charge. He’s an idiot, and they just extended his contract. Great football and basketball hires John.
 
boothmark77 said:
Unfortunately UC will be at the bottom of the Big 12 in football and basketball with Cunningham in charge. He’s an idiot, and they just extended his contract. Great football and basketball hires John.
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I don't see a great prognosis for football under Satterfield but the basketball program has definitely improved incrementally since Miller took over.

Who knows how much longer Miller will stick around, but I'm confident in the direction we're going under his lead.
 
boothmark77 said:
Unfortunately UC will be at the bottom of the Big 12 in football and basketball with Cunningham in charge. He’s an idiot, and they just extended his contract. Great football and basketball hires John.
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Why the hate on Cunningham? I can understand if you didn't like the hires but he was in charge when they got into the Big12, he was in charge when they started these NIL and sponsorship initiatives, he was in charge when they broke ground on the new athletic facility. He's done a lot of really good things for the University.

As for the coaches, little early to tell how Satterfield will do, though it seems many in the fan base have already decided based on his time at Louisville and 3 games so far at UC - singing his praises for the road win over Pitt and off the bandwagon after the loss to Miami.

And I had some skepticism on Wes but he's bringing in some nice players, he can clearly recruit well. Biggest gripe with him has been the Xs and Os, but the team plays hard for him and he's finally got some real talent on the roster at multiple positions.

I think given the nature of the way he needed to get replacements, Brannen's fallout and Fickell's back door/blindside exit, neither were bad hires. They weren't flashy, but some of the coaches in the past weren't either.
 
adselder09 said:
I think given the nature of the way he needed to get replacements, Brannen's fallout and Fickell's back door/blindside exit, neither were bad hires. They weren't flashy, but some of the coaches in the past weren't either.
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Overall great post, and I agree that he was likely blindsided by Fickell’s departure, but I think it was a panicked, knee jerk reaction hire. Fickell was announced late November, he had all the time in the world to make a decision and instead he quickly and quietly landed on a guy who was likely headed out the door at his current similar level job. I’m not one jump too quick, the Miami loss sucks but I’ll give him his due time to get his roster and recruits settled, but the hire came off as rushed and panicked.

But to give a counterpoint to my own counterpoint, I do think most people complaining are people who wanted Deion and all the media and success he’s having amplifies the Satterfield hate.
 
adselder09 said:
Why the hate on Cunningham? I can understand if you didn't like the hires but he was in charge when they got into the Big12, he was in charge when they started these NIL and sponsorship initiatives, he was in charge when they broke ground on the new athletic facility. He's done a lot of really good things for the University.

As for the coaches, little early to tell how Satterfield will do, though it seems many in the fan base have already decided based on his time at Louisville and 3 games so far at UC - singing his praises for the road win over Pitt and off the bandwagon after the loss to Miami.

And I had some skepticism on Wes but he's bringing in some nice players, he can clearly recruit well. Biggest gripe with him has been the Xs and Os, but the team plays hard for him and he's finally got some real talent on the roster at multiple positions.

I think given the nature of the way he needed to get replacements, Brannen's fallout and Fickell's back door/blindside exit, neither were bad hires. They weren't flashy, but some of the coaches in the past weren't either.
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Losing a football game to Miami was gonna' bring a tsunami of overreaction, and it should....Given that, I ain't ready to bury Satterfield just yet. UofL fans didn't turn on him til' word got out he interviewed for the South Carolina job, and Jeff Brohm is a local hero. Cunningham getting an experienced P5 coach to step in for Fickell, instead of Rick Minters kid from Michigan, or some dude that was head coach at Kent State was still a win in my book. If folks want to get mad at a coach, look no further than Kerry Coombs. His corner backs seem to have a nasty habit of tackling receivers long before the ball arrives, and his field goal unit might want to block a guy coming off the edge on a game winning field goal attempt.....
 
adselder09 said:
Why the hate on Cunningham? I can understand if you didn't like the hires but he was in charge when they got into the Big12, he was in charge when they started these NIL and sponsorship initiatives, he was in charge when they broke ground on the new athletic facility. He's done a lot of really good things for the University.

As for the coaches, little early to tell how Satterfield will do, though it seems many in the fan base have already decided based on his time at Louisville and 3 games so far at UC - singing his praises for the road win over Pitt and off the bandwagon after the loss to Miami.

And I had some skepticism on Wes but he's bringing in some nice players, he can clearly recruit well. Biggest gripe with him has been the Xs and Os, but the team plays hard for him and he's finally got some real talent on the roster at multiple positions.

I think given the nature of the way he needed to get replacements, Brannen's fallout and Fickell's back door/blindside exit, neither were bad hires. They weren't flashy, but some of the coaches in the past weren't either.
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Brian Kelly told UC they needed more facilities/upgrades to compete and recruit, including an indoor practice facility. What they got (after he left) was a damn bubble. Beats a blank I guess.

Fickell (and others) continued the desire for upgrades with success, but neither Fickell nor Cunningham is the reason it is finally getting done. The largest donation to UC athletics in their history is the reason that indoor facility is getting done. Thank you Larry and Rhonda Sheakley.

Satterfield, while successful at App State, was mediocre at best in his 4 seasons at Louisville (25-24 overall and 15-18 in ACC). He is not a proven successful coach at this level in my opinion. I predict UC to go under .500 this season. They just lost to fake Miami and now Oklahoma comes to town Saturday; it’s already bad.

Wes Miller was another bad hire. He is .500 in league play during his two seasons. And that’s a mediocre AAC. He’s also 0-2 vs XU. I note this because I have to hear about that from the XU grad in my household. 😡
 
Orin Swift said:
Overall great post, and I agree that he was likely blindsided by Fickell’s departure, but I think it was a panicked, knee jerk reaction hire. Fickell was announced late November, he had all the time in the world to make a decision and instead he quickly and quietly landed on a guy who was likely headed out the door at his current similar level job. I’m not one jump too quick, the Miami loss sucks but I’ll give him his due time to get his roster and recruits settled, but the hire came off as rushed and panicked.

But to give a counterpoint to my own counterpoint, I do think most people complaining are people who wanted Deion and all the media and success he’s having amplifies the Satterfield hate.
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To me that is the issue. If you really analyze what he did at Louisville I honestly cannot understand the hiring of Satterfield. He had time there with his own recruits and yet there was no significant improvement in fact they seemed to be getting worse. Cunningham blew it plain and simple here. Sure Fickel's backdoor maneuver took everyone by surprise but UC has a lot to offer in a strong fanbase and entry into the Big 12. I honestly beliee he could have had a nice pool of coaches to choose from. Now we have a mediocre coach for five years that is really going to hurt this program for a long time. If he does better than expected then you can come back and throw this post in my face, but I think UC fans got screwed again by this hire.

As for Fickel leaving it really is disappointing. From everything that was out there it appeared his family was happy here and he had a lot to look forward to with the entry into the Big 12. If he made this move to try and get back to Ohio State I think he is taking a big risk, after all he was at Ohio Stae as interim head coach for the whole 2011 year and they threw him out with the bath water. Fickel seems like a decent guy but I don't like how he bailed out of UC. I really don't understand why these coaches don't see value in staying with UC with it's rabid fan base and all.
 
By the way my sister still has two tickets for the UC/Oklahoma game. SHe recently had foot surgery and can't go. I'd use them but I have a wedding in Nashville I have to attend. She's asking $225/per ticket which is what she paid. SHe may take a reasonable counter offer if interested. Send me a privet message if interested.
 
boothmark77 said:
Brian Kelly told UC they needed more facilities/upgrades to compete and recruit, including an indoor practice facility. What they got (after he left) was a damn bubble. Beats a blank I guess.

Fickell (and others) continued the desire for upgrades with success, but neither Fickell nor Cunningham is the reason it is finally getting done. The largest donation to UC athletics in their history is the reason that indoor facility is getting done. Thank you Larry and Rhonda Sheakley.

Satterfield, while successful at App State, was mediocre at best in his 4 seasons at Louisville (25-24 overall and 15-18 in ACC). He is not a proven successful coach at this level in my opinion. I predict UC to go under .500 this season. They just lost to fake Miami and now Oklahoma comes to town Saturday; it’s already bad.

Wes Miller was another bad hire. He is .500 in league play during his two seasons. And that’s a mediocre AAC. He’s also 0-2 vs XU. I note this because I have to hear about that from the XU grad in my household. 😡
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Alright that's fair regarding the new facility not being because of him, but it still got started and with his needs contract will get done under his watch.

I personally think Satterfield never recovered from interviewing with SC. The writing was on the wall, they wanted him gone.

As for the coaching search, I think it's pretty clear Satterfield wasn't their first choice. Hartline removed his name shortly after interviewing. Minter was another hot assistant named out there. I agree, he somewhat panicked, but wasn't part of that because there were expected to be a long list of candidates and that really wasn't the case?

Lastly, you only see 3 more wins on the schedule the rest of the season? I know the Miami game was a disaster, but it isn't like the Big 12 is showing to be world beaters. Iowa St barely beat Ohio. Baylor lost to Texas St. Oklahoma St lost to South Alabama. I would be very surprised if they didn't win at least 6 games, I have them going 7-5, which was also my thought heading into the year.
 
adselder09 said:
Alright that's fair regarding the new facility not being because of him, but it still got started and with his needs contract will get done under his watch.

I personally think Satterfield never recovered from interviewing with SC. The writing was on the wall, they wanted him gone.

As for the coaching search, I think it's pretty clear Satterfield wasn't their first choice. Hartline removed his name shortly after interviewing. Minter was another hot assistant named out there. I agree, he somewhat panicked, but wasn't part of that because there were expected to be a long list of candidates and that really wasn't the case?

Lastly, you only see 3 more wins on the schedule the rest of the season? I know the Miami game was a disaster, but it isn't like the Big 12 is showing to be world beaters. Iowa St barely beat Ohio. Baylor lost to Texas St. Oklahoma St lost to South Alabama. I would be very surprised if they didn't win at least 6 games, I have them going 7-5, which was also my thought heading into the year.
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Yes. Sadly. I see the rest of the season like this
vs Oklahoma L
at BYU L
vs Iowa St W
vs Baylor W
at Oklahoma State L
vs UCF L
at Houston W
at West Virginia L
vs Kansas L
 
boothmark77 said:
Yes. Sadly. I see the rest of the season like this
vs Oklahoma L
at BYU L
vs Iowa St W
vs Baylor W
at Oklahoma State L
vs UCF L
at Houston W
at West Virginia L
vs Kansas L
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I think they beat Oklahoma St, beat West Virginia, then beat either UCF or Kansas at home. My initial thought was 7-5 but that included beating Miami and Pitt was more of a toss up. We shall see, hope you're wrong ha.
 
Fellas, fellas, fellas.......it ain't about wins and losses, it is about Denaro..... We've had wins on the field, we've gone to BCS Bowl Games and the College Football Final Four. We've had consensus All Americans and hot young coaches, but we never ever got paid. This year we get $18 Million, next year and beyond we get $42 Million a year. Do you have any idea what UC can do going from $9 Million in TV money to $42 Million in TV money. In the last 30 years no Athletic Department in the country has done more with less than the University of Cincinnati. Now that we are receiving real revenue the sky is the limit. This football season may or may not be a bumpy ride, but UC football and basketball are sleeping giants.
 
troyboy73 said:
Do you miss Luke Fickell?
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Most Bearcat fans were more heart broke when Brian Kelly left for Notre Dame..... Luke is a solid football coach, who can get his guys to play hard for him. He recruits well enough, and his players generally improve individually while in his program.....His teams at Cincinnati won 57 games in 6 years, and he left the program in better shape than he found it. That being said, having watched every game Luke coached at UC he never beat a team that had a better roster than his squad. He's not gonna' out scheme anybody, his clock management and in game coaching have always been a tad shaky. He's essentially Paul Chryst. Wisconsin is paying $3 Million more a year for the same guy they just fired.
 
JUSTGOPLAY said:
Fellas, fellas, fellas.......it ain't about wins and losses, it is about Denaro..... We've had wins on the field, we've gone to BCS Bowl Games and the College Football Final Four. We've had consensus All Americans and hot young coaches, but we never ever got paid. This year we get $18 Million, next year and beyond we get $42 Million a year. Do you have any idea what UC can do going from $9 Million in TV money to $42 Million in TV money. In the last 30 years no Athletic Department in the country has done more with less than the University of Cincinnati. Now that we are receiving real revenue the sky is the limit. This football season may or may not be a bumpy ride, but UC football and basketball are sleeping giants.
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It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Lots of schools are paid a lot more money that that, and yet they aren’t very good in football. Given the giants in your geographical footprint I just don’t see another giant emerging from UC.
 
Hammerdrill said:
It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Lots of schools are paid a lot more money that that, and yet they aren’t very good in football. Given the giants in your geographical footprint I just don’t see another giant emerging from UC.
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The key will be to keep recruiting Ohio. The most successful UC teams of the past 20 years have had strong classes from home. When they've strayed from that the results haven't been great, Tuberville years.
 
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adselder09 said:
The key will be to keep recruiting Ohio. The most successful UC teams of the past 20 years have had strong classes from home. When they've strayed from that the results haven't been great, Tuberville years.
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Why do you think UC will fare any better than the bad teams in the BIG, who have had plenty of money for decades? I believe each team in the BIG will get 100 million each year starting in 2025.
 
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Hammerdrill said:
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Why do you think UC will fare any better than the bad teams in the BIG, who have had plenty of money for decades? I believe each team in the BIG will get 100 million each year starting in 2025.
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Because they're not in the B1G. If you're not at OSU, Michigan or PSU right now, does it really matter that you're in the B1G?
 
adselder09 said:
Because they're not in the B1G. If you're not at OSU, Michigan or PSU right now, does it really matter that you're in the B1G?
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That is sorta my point. Those 3 plus ND get most of the best kids. Then the rest of the BIG gets the others. And while UC is getting more money, relative to their geographic location, they are still a long ways behind these others.
 
adselder09 said:
The key will be to keep recruiting Ohio. The most successful UC teams of the past 20 years have had strong classes from home. When they've strayed from that the results haven't been great, Tuberville years.
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Dantonio and especially Fickell were really big on recruiting Ohio. They could beat out Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Michigan State, Kentucky, or Louisville for any Ohio guy they wanted, even in the BIG EAST and the American days. I believe Satterfield knows the importance of recruiting Ohio, but also has his sights on Georgia and the Carolinas. That's where Cincy Reigns and the BIG12 come into play.
 
Hammerdrill said:
That is sorta my point. Those 3 plus ND get most of the best kids. Then the rest of the BIG gets the others. And while UC is getting more money, relative to their geographic location, they are still a long ways behind these others.
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They've been beating out the rest of the B1G for those same players for years. Now they're in a bigger and better conference, plus they finally have some money behind them.
 
UC needs to right the course and can Satterfield after this season. It’s pretty clear he’s going to drag the program down to the mediocrity he displayed at Louisville.
 
AEW Champion said:
UC needs to right the course and can Satterfield after this season. It’s pretty clear he’s going to drag the program down to the mediocrity he displayed at Louisville.
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Hurts especially watching Louisville being perfectly fine with him leaving (before they knew they’d get Brohm, although I’m sure they had more than an inkling) and then going 5-0 to start the season while UC could very easily be 4-1.
 
Chop Stix said:
Frustrating loss last night. Gifting BYU 14 points off the two turnovers was the difference maker. Awful night for the DBs. Coombs has to go.
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Braden Smith has been jackin' around fielding punts on the bounce all year, you knew sooner or later he would screw one up. Our DB's are absolutely lost right now. The nineteen new guys that transfered in and are playing big snaps leads to a lot of inconsistency. This bunch is still light years ahead of where Luke's first team was when he went 4-8 in 2017. They dominate the stat sheet, but don't know how to win yet. I'll give Satterfield a little more time before I'm ready to bury him.
 
Orin Swift said:
Hurts especially watching Louisville being perfectly fine with him leaving (before they knew they’d get Brohm, although I’m sure they had more than an inkling) and then going 5-0 to start the season while UC could very easily be 4-1.
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Feels like Tommy Tuberville is back!
 
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