Suburban League National 2024

BadCompany said:
Nobody there wants to admit that this was an absolutely terrible hire so the easy way out is to blame all of the failures on the old coach and what the old coach left and what the old coach didn't do, instead of looking at the writing on the wall. What was this guys record at Brecksville?!? I bet it was well below .500
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Quick Joe Eitel Search.

2018 0-10
2019 7-4 (playoffs lost round 1)
2020 7-2 (playoffs lost 3rd Round to Avon)
2021 2-8

2-2 vs Stow over the time.

Brecksville record 16-24

Last 3 years as HC 4-27

20-51 Overall as a HC.

Had a pretty good QB at Brecksville who went to Big Ten School I believe when they were winning.

Returning a QB as a JR who started as a freshman from what I have been told.

This year should be a great barometer. 3rd year at Stow and 7th overall as a HC.

Stow has always been an interesting job in Summit County to me. Largest enrollment wise school in the county. I've always been told they've fought to keep kids from Walsh and the likes. I don't know how many kids they've actually lost over the years but on the surface this has always looked like it should be a good program year in and year out. Demographics are very similar to most teams in the SL.
 
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rghrider98 said:
Quick Joe Eitel Search.

2018 0-10
2019 7-4 (playoffs lost round 1)
2020 7-2 (playoffs lost 3rd Round to Avon)
2021 2-8

2-2 vs Stow over the time.

Brecksville record 16-24

Last 3 years as HC 4-27

20-51 Overall as a HC.

Had a pretty god QB at Brecksville who went to Big Ten School I believe when they were winning.

Returning a QB as a JR who started as a freshman from what I have been told.

This year should be a great barometer. 3rd year at Stow and 7th overall as a HC.

Stow has always been an interesting job in Summit County to me. Largest enrollment wise school in the county. I've always been told they've fought to keep kids from Walsh and the likes. I don't know how many kids they've actually lost over the years but on the surface this has always looked like it should be a good program year in and year out. Demographics are very similar to most teams in the SL.
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Brecksville since the departure of this guy…

2022 - 2-8
2023 - 6-6 (Second Round Playoffs, lost to Avon)

Looks like the new head coach was able to pull the ship out of the graveyard it was put in after 4 questionable years, we’ll see how they play this year compared to Stow.

Any potential candidates to take over next season at stow?!
 
BadCompany said:
Brecksville since the departure of this guy…

2022 - 2-8
2023 - 6-6 (Second Round Playoffs, lost to Avon)

Looks like the new head coach was able to pull the ship out of the graveyard it was put in after 4 questionable years, we’ll see how they play this year compared to Stow.

Any potential candidates to take over next season
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No clue. Not sure its a good job. They are D2 now. But Region 5. D1 Region 1 and D2 Region 5 are both brutal.
 
Any update about how scrimmages went this weekend? Whose hard work is paying off? And whose lack of work is showing?
 
rghrider98 said:
Always confused by this take.

Phillips went 25-13 with a league championship after looking at the numbers.

The new coach came in there was still talent leftover.

What did he do wrong?

How are players quitting on the new coach Phillips fault? The OC quit the first year for the new coach, is that Phillips fault too?

Genuinely curious about this.
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It's not a "take". Phillips was a very solid football coach, but he was nearing the end of his career, and he had neither the energy or the desire to put into the feeder program, which suffered greatly. The once mighty youth program fell of the rails shockingly fast, leaving Poder with a rather bare cupboard. Poder was told straight up by the admin that this was going to be a process and was going to be rough from the beginning.

Sure, Phillips coached his teams quite well, but did little else. There was little talent left over, and the bottom would have fallen out even if he had stayed on for a few more years. Lost some players in transition as well. Not sure about the OC situation exactly, but heard that it was not pretty.
 
stoike said:
It's not a "take". Phillips was a very solid football coach, but he was nearing the end of his career, and he had neither the energy or the desire to put into the feeder program, which suffered greatly. The once mighty youth program fell of the rails shockingly fast, leaving Poder with a rather bare cupboard. Poder was told straight up by the admin that this was going to be a process and was going to be rough from the beginning.

Sure, Phillips coached his teams quite well, but did little else. There was little talent left over, and the bottom would have fallen out even if he had stayed on for a few more years. Lost some players in transition as well. Not sure about the OC situation exactly, but heard that it was not pretty.
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Any updates from scrimmages? Heard last week was pretty rough. How are numbers from varsity to youth?
 
stoike said:
It's not a "take". Phillips was a very solid football coach, but he was nearing the end of his career, and he had neither the energy or the desire to put into the feeder program, which suffered greatly. The once mighty youth program fell of the rails shockingly fast, leaving Poder with a rather bare cupboard. Poder was told straight up by the admin that this was going to be a process and was going to be rough from the beginning.

Sure, Phillips coached his teams quite well, but did little else. There was little talent left over, and the bottom would have fallen out even if he had stayed on for a few more years. Lost some players in transition as well. Not sure about the OC situation exactly, but heard that it was not pretty.
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Saw a couple plays on my boys hudl of Stows scrimmage against East. Yikes, maybe the play calling from the old OC was better than what this guy is calling. If the rumors are true, Stow is going to be looking for a new HC in 11 weeks.
 
stoike said:
It's not a "take". Phillips was a very solid football coach, but he was nearing the end of his career, and he had neither the energy or the desire to put into the feeder program, which suffered greatly. The once mighty youth program fell of the rails shockingly fast, leaving Poder with a rather bare cupboard. Poder was told straight up by the admin that this was going to be a process and was going to be rough from the beginning.

Sure, Phillips coached his teams quite well, but did little else. There was little talent left over, and the bottom would have fallen out even if he had stayed on for a few more years. Lost some players in transition as well. Not sure about the OC situation exactly, but heard that it was not pretty.
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It is a take.

How much does everyone think a HS HC has to do with a youth program?

He's already responsible for Varsity, JV, Freshman and MS teams. Is the HC responsible for numbers in youth leagues?

Feels like most communities are either strong or aren't at the youth level. HC cannot control everything.

I am quite familiar with many local youth programs. Cuyahoga Falls used to have a great youth program but the dynamics of the city have changed so much the youth program has struggled and is bad now. I don't think that's the HC fault.

Do you think if Nori stayed things would've been that much different?

Also remember when Stow made their run to State Final 4 D1 was split into two regions and Stow was able to avoid Ed's until the Final 4 game and they lost badly. Next year they got handled easily by Mentor in Round 2.

Basically what happened with Phillips. Lost to Ignatius with a ton of injuries his last year in round 2 and lost a competitive game to Mentor the Covid year.

They also were beating Medina at 1/2 time when fully healthy in a very good game.

Blaming Phillips is just watching games with blinders. He couldn't control the dynamics of a public school.
 
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rghrider98 said:
It is a take.

How much does everyone think a HS HC has to do with a youth program?

He's already responsible for Varsity, JV, Freshman and MS teams. Is the HC responsible for numbers in youth leagues?

Feels like most communities are either strong or aren't at the youth level. HC cannot control everything.

I am quite familiar with many local youth programs. Cuyahoga Falls used to have a great youth program but the dynamics of the city have changed so much the youth program has struggled and is bad now. I don't think that's the HC fault.

Do you think if Nori stayed things would've been that much different?

Also remember when Stow made their run to State Final 4 D1 was split into two regions and Stow was able to avoid Ed's until the Final 4 game and they lost badly. Next year they got handled easily by Mentor in Round 2.

Basically what happened with Phillips. Lost to Ignatius with a ton of injuries his last year in round 2 and lost a competitive game to Mentor the Covid year.

They also were beating Medina at 1/2 time when fully healthy in a very good game.

Blaming Phillips is just watching games with blinders. He couldn't control the dynamics of a public school.
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Gotta get their excuses in line for why this guy sucks. Can’t admit he can’t coach and have to blame it on the easy target, which is the guy who isn’t here anymore.
 
rghrider98 said:
It is a take.

How much does everyone think a HS HC has to do with a youth program?

He's already responsible for Varsity, JV, Freshman and MS teams. Is the HC responsible for numbers in youth leagues?

Feels like most communities are either strong or aren't at the youth level. HC cannot control everything.

I am quite familiar with many local youth programs. Cuyahoga Falls used to have a great youth program but the dynamics of the city have changed so much the youth program has struggled and is bad now. I don't think that's the HC fault.

Do you think if Nori stayed things would've been that much different?

Also remember when Stow made their run to State Final 4 D1 was split into two regions and Stow was able to avoid Ed's until the Final 4 game and they lost badly. Next year they got handled easily by Mentor in Round 2.

Basically what happened with Phillips. Lost to Ignatius with a ton of injuries his last year in round 2 and lost a competitive game to Mentor the Covid year.

They also were beating Medina at 1/2 time when fully healthy in a very good game.

Blaming Phillips is just watching games with blinders. He couldn't control the dynamics of a public school.
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*Yes, things would be a lot different had Nori stayed. Stow has not changed...it's not like the residents stopped producing good football players/athletes. Many started leaving for private schools, obviously.*

*Stow was never going to beat St. Eds or Hoban.

*I myself am not convinced that Poder is a good coach.
 
stoike said:
*Yes, things would be a lot different had Nori stayed. Stow has not changed...it's not like the residents stopped producing good football players/athletes. Many started leaving for private schools, obviously.*

*Stow was never going to beat St. Eds or Hoban.

*I myself am not convinced that Poder is a good coach.
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Enrollment numbers are down as well for Stow, as evidence by dropping to Division 2. The school/facilities/stadiums are out dated.

The “field house” is an improvement, but the weight room is only slightly bigger than the old one. If you’re gonna do it, they should have DONE IT.

But the rest of the administration is changed, maybe things will actually change. It’s a hope.

Here’s to 10 weeks of misery. Let’s keep an eye out for young talented coaches during these next 10 weeks.
 
BadCompany said:
Gotta get their excuses in line for why this guy sucks. Can’t admit he can’t coach and have to blame it on the easy target, which is the guy who isn’t here anymore.
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I get you don’t like Poder, and I don’t watch them play week to week. But to get on here and defend Phillips and act like he did something with the talent he was given, you’re delusional. High School Coaches from neighboring schools were on social media taunting him with “good thing your kids are talented” tweets. I don’t think that’s a compliment to his Coaching. He wasted classes that Stow probably won’t see again anytime soon. But he’ll tell you he won the Conference in 22. It was in spite of him. Only person who wanted him hired was the Super, and he overruled everyone.
 
Fan22 said:
I get you don’t like Poder, and I don’t watch them play week to week. But to get on here and defend Phillips and act like he did something with the talent he was given, you’re delusional. High School Coaches from neighboring schools were on social media taunting him with “good thing your kids are talented” tweets. I don’t think that’s a compliment to his Coaching. He wasted classes that Stow probably won’t see again anytime soon. But he’ll tell you he won the Conference in 22. It was in spite of him. Only person who wanted him hired was the Super, and he overruled everyone.
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And this hire was what the AD wanted, not what anyone else wanted. But hey, he’ll be fired at the end of this season anyways. I’ll check back in at the halfway mark of the season. 🫡
 
Fan22 said:
I get you don’t like Poder, and I don’t watch them play week to week. But to get on here and defend Phillips and act like he did something with the talent he was given, you’re delusional. High School Coaches from neighboring schools were on social media taunting him with “good thing your kids are talented” tweets. I don’t think that’s a compliment to his Coaching. He wasted classes that Stow probably won’t see again anytime soon. But he’ll tell you he won the Conference in 22. It was in spite of him. Only person who wanted him hired was the Super, and he overruled everyone.
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What conference did he win in 2022? I think you are thinking of 2021, no?
 
BadCompany said:
And this hire was what the AD wanted, not what anyone else wanted. But hey, he’ll be fired at the end of this season anyways. I’ll check back in at the halfway mark of the season. 🫡
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Again you’re talking about Poder, yet you’ve insinuated many times that Phillips deserves credit for something. The only credit he deserves is conning the Super that he cared about the job and the kids.
 
Fan22 said:
Again you’re talking about Poder, yet you’ve insinuated many times that Phillips deserves credit for something. The only credit he deserves is conning the Super that he cared about the job and the kids.
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Let’s all agree that Philips didn’t do much and this guys isn’t doing anything either. I think we can all agree that Stow is going to be looking for a head coach in 10 weeks. Do you have any suggestions?
 
Week 1

Tallmadge at Brecksville
Highland at Hudson
Nordonia at Bedford
Maple Heights at North Royalton
Olmsted Falls at Solon
Stow at Medina
Aurora at Twinsburg
Wadsworth at Barberton

Take your picks
 
Week 1

Tallmadge at Brecksville
Highland at Hudson
Nordonia at Bedford
Maple Heights at North Royalton
Olmsted Falls at Solon
Stow at Medina
Aurora at Twinsburg
Wadsworth at Barberton

Take your picks
 
Tallmadge at Brecksville
Highland at Hudson
Nordonia at Bedford
Maple Heights at North Royalton
Olmsted Falls at Solon
Stow at Medina
Aurora at Twinsburg
Wadsworth at Barberton
 
brian1227 said:
Only nordonia wadsworth won that awful.
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Looks like another down year for the SLN. Brecksville and NoRo have been trending down for a decade, Stow, too but maybe not as long. Same for Solon. Hudson is (was?) one of the best programs in this area but lost to Highland who barely squeaks into D2. Is the SLA stronger?
 
raising4daughters said:
Looks like another down year for the SLN. Brecksville and NoRo have been trending down for a decade, Stow, too but maybe not as long. Same for Solon. Hudson is (was?) one of the best programs in this area but lost to Highland who barely squeaks into D2. Is the SLA stronger?
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No.
 
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