I wouldn’t say he got cheated but it was most definitely a bad call. My problem was the McNicholas kid may been stalling on bottom at some points during the match but he was not stalling when the ref made the call. It felt like it was a makeup call because he realized or thought he should have been called for stalling earlier. But Barnett was a beast on top and now the debate comes into play was he stalling or was he just overpowered. I see many refs call bottom kids for stalling when they seem to just be over powered. It seemed like Taylor was doing everything in his power just to fight a half off, let alone standup. Only other questionable call I saw was Boggs from Sandy Valley got called for a very questionable slam in OT that cost him the match. Other than that no complaints good refereeing.what was everyone’s thoughts on the referees? i thought they did a good job except a couple close matches. i think pierce taylor got cheated by the refs
i agree but he got hit earlier in the match, you do not call stalling with 1 second left to go into overtime in state semisI wouldn’t say he got cheated but it was most definitely a bad call. My problem was the McNicholas kid may been stalling on bottom at some points during the match but he was not stalling when the ref made the call. It felt like it was a makeup call because he realized or thought he should have been called for stalling earlier. But Barnett was a beast on top and now the debate comes into play was he stalling or was he just overpowered. I see many refs call bottom kids for stalling when they seem to just be over powered. It seemed like Taylor was doing everything in his power just to fight a half off, let alone standup. Only other question call I saw was Boggs from Sandy Valley got called for a very questionable slam in OT that was cost him the match. Other than that no complaints good refereeing.
A good official, in any sport, will apply the rules equally and fairly during the entirety of a match/game, regardless of time or score.i agree but he got hit earlier in the match, you do not call stalling with 1 second left to go into overtime in state semis
Boggs definitely got robbed on that one. The kid he was wrestling ended up coming back through and getting 3rd.I wouldn’t say he got cheated but it was most definitely a bad call. My problem was the McNicholas kid may been stalling on bottom at some points during the match but he was not stalling when the ref made the call. It felt like it was a makeup call because he realized or thought he should have been called for stalling earlier. But Barnett was a beast on top and now the debate comes into play was he stalling or was he just overpowered. I see many refs call bottom kids for stalling when they seem to just be over powered. It seemed like Taylor was doing everything in his power just to fight a half off, let alone standup. Only other questionable call I saw was Boggs from Sandy Valley got called for a very questionable slam in OT that cost him the match. Other than that no complaints good refereeing.
The refs were for the most part good, few calls and missed calls but it happens at every level. Stop crying about that match, I wanted taylor to win but I was watching it happen and he should have been hit earlier, also something that could have changed things but really, he was stalling, I saw alot worse stalling calls all weekend. Most of those refs I've seen at tournaments for the last 20+ years between coaching and wrestling, most very good and consistent refs. Idk who was reading that match but I bet he knows more about the reffing side than you do. Let it go, match is over and complaining doesn't change a thing. Wrestle 6 minutes, 5 minutes it doesn't matter, if you stop what happens after is on you.what was everyone’s thoughts on the referees? i thought they did a good job except a couple close matches. i think pierce taylor got cheated by the refs
Agree with this.The refs were for the most part good, few calls and missed calls but it happens at every level. Stop crying about that match, I wanted taylor to win but I was watching it happen and he should have been hit earlier, also something that could have changed things but really, he was stalling, I saw alot worse stalling calls all weekend. Most of those refs I've seen at tournaments for the last 20+ years between coaching and wrestling, most very good and consistent refs. Idk who was reading that match but I bet he knows more about the reffing side than you do. Let it go, match is over and complaining doesn't change a thing. Wrestle 6 minutes, 5 minutes it doesn't matter, if you stop what happens after is on you.
I'm not questioning whether or not he was stalling because, according to the rules, it looked like he was stalling on bottom at points in the match. My problem was when the referee chose to make the stall call. Taylor was not stalling when the referee called him for stalling. He had just come to his feet. If he stalling hit him earlier when he actual is stalling. I get the feeling he realized too late that he should have been hit at some point in the third period for stalling and did that as a make up call.The refs were for the most part good, few calls and missed calls but it happens at every level. Stop crying about that match, I wanted taylor to win but I was watching it happen and he should have been hit earlier, also something that could have changed things but really, he was stalling, I saw alot worse stalling calls all weekend. Most of those refs I've seen at tournaments for the last 20+ years between coaching and wrestling, most very good and consistent refs. Idk who was reading that match but I bet he knows more about the reffing side than you do. Let it go, match is over and complaining doesn't change a thing. Wrestle 6 minutes, 5 minutes it doesn't matter, if you stop what happens after is on you.
i agree, in the third period he would stall a bit but you don’t call it when he’s not stalling, that’s like seeing a blatant offensive pass interference and not calling it then seeing a guy score the game winning touchdown and calling pass interference when he wasn’t near the guyI'm not questioning whether or not he was stalling because, according to the rules, it looked like he was stalling on bottom at points in the match. My problem was when the referee chose to make the stall call. Taylor was not stalling when the referee called him for stalling. He had just come to his feet. If he stalling hit him earlier when he actual is stalling. I get the feeling he realized too late that he should have been hit at some point in the third period for stalling and did that as a make up call.
They were bad in D2.what was everyone’s thoughts on the referees? i thought they did a good job except a couple close matches. i think pierce taylor got cheated by the refs
In the 126 semi's match, the kid from Rootstown hit a Petersen and had control of it for some 30 seconds and the move was not awarded a reversal nor back points. Was the strangest "no-call" I've seen in some time.
I thought the ref in this particular match did a terrible job all day...He was always getting called to the table by coaches and I’m not sure if it was pride or arrogance but he never once conceded or overturned a call. That Petersen no call was the worst I have ever seen.In the 126 semi's match, the kid from Rootstown hit a Petersen and had control of it for some 30 seconds and the move was not awarded a reversal nor back points. Was the strangest "no-call" I've seen in some time.
he was standing upI dont really see a problem with taylor getting hit with that final stalling. Head is down, holding hands, and barnett doesnt even have his body agaisnt him. That certainly seems like stalling to me
In the 126 semi's match, the kid from Rootstown hit a Petersen and had control of it for some 30 seconds and the move was not awarded a reversal nor back points. Was the strangest "no-call" I've seen in some time.
frIt's really a shame that most of these matches with the poor calls had 2 officials.
It's really a shame that most of these matches with the poor calls had 2 officials.
I actually saw this one live. It was an interesting position. I think the call could have gone either way. If you watch it full speed the peterson happed but he never held him there in criteria. The kid in red actually sat up on his butt then would cross face him putting the other kid in nearfall criteria. the kid would press back into him which then the kid in red immediately sat up to his butt. Since they were neutral, I believe the kid had to hold him in criteria beyond reaction time to be awarded the takedown. It was debatable if this happened. At this level their are so many close calls that could go either way. I think this is one you could easily argue form either perspective.Absolutely terrible no call. The Edwards kid got into the scramble at :35 seconds, hits the Peterson at :25 seconds and holds the kid through the whistle at the end of the 1st period (abundantly clear on the video, but see the screenshot). I’m no mathematician, but that should be at the least 2 points for a takedown and 2-3 for back points. Edwards loses that match by 1 point and the other kids wins the title. Hate to see kids get hosed by absolutely horrific officiating. View attachment 15672
He was held in criteria for 6-7 seconds on video, well beyond reaction time. I agree the defensive wrestler sat up a few times, however the grip through the leg and on the wrist was never broken. No less than 2&2, possibly 2&3 depending on when the TD was awarded. It was called differently on many other occasions all weekend long at D3.I actually saw this one live. It was an interesting position. I think the call could have gone either way. If you watch it full speed the peterson happed but he never held him there in criteria. The kid in red actually sat up on his butt then would cross face him putting the other kid in nearfall criteria. the kid would press back into him which then the kid in red immediately sat up to his butt. Since they were neutral, I believe the kid had to hold him in criteria beyond reaction time to be awarded the takedown. It was debatable if this happened. At this level their are so many close calls that could go either way. I think this is one you could easily argue form either perspective.