winbypin
Well-known member
That I won't take. And others won't either. So no end in sight ever?
Poll: Will there be a 2020 HS Football season in Ohio?
- Thread starter LilWorm
- Start date
Yappi
Go Buckeyes
Did not hear that today but is a continuation of the lie they perpetrated on Ohioans..."Flatten the curve and don't overwhelm the hospitals."
We have done exactly that!
Herd immunity is effective at somewhere between 80 - 95%. So not everybody has to be vaccinated for it to work.
I'll get it. Just like I got smallpox, polio, TB, etc.
winbypin
Well-known member
Not sure covid is the same as any of those diseases.
Lancer_Reups
Active member
Thats incorrect some workplaces in vermont reopened and farmers markets in that state will reopen friday so that was a false statement, we need to be more optimistic, Right now there still will be a football season, so we need to stop speculating until there is an official word
winbypin
Well-known member
There SHOULD be a HS football season. Not sure there will be. Dewine disappointed me Monday.
That coupled with our governors recent actions and his overall attitude towards the pandemic so far leave certainly worries about this season
Obviously they are not the same. So I have no idea what your point is.
Lancer_Reups
Active member
Dewine is going to be pressured to you watch
winbypin
Well-known member
Not sure covid is as deadly so I will roll the dice I guess.
brianwr112
Well-known member
He's already being pressured. The immediate concern for HS aged kids was Graduation Ceremonies....how'd that turn out for you guys saying there will be Fall Sports
Lancer_Reups
Active member
the good news is Fall sports are probably not at the top of the list
reganaustinjames
Well-known member
Whoever said that there is "overwhelming support" for how DeWine and similarly-minded governors have handled this and that there is a "vocal minority" who wants to get everything back up and running must obviously not be living in the real world. From what I'm hearing, people in MI and OH are vocally disapproving this approach in any way they can, and if people's reactions to Gavin Newsom in CA are any indication (both in person and on social media), people are REALLY getting restless, and have lost all faith in the "experts." Because of this, economic and political pressures are going to FORCE people like DeWine and Newsom to open back up sooner rather than later. And also, as I've said the entire time, because of the timeline, I will be SHOCKED if we do not have football on its normal schedule at the HS, College, and Pro levels this fall (whether or not fans are included, however, is much harder to determine...).
Down The Road
Well-known member
DeWine has been disappointing since 1947 I'm guessing, he's been disappointing me since the late '90's anyway.
Down The Road
Well-known member
The Governors daughter lost her election in Greene county says something to me about the public's feelings
Paladin1aa
Well-known member
The public “protests” against closing things down shows their real colors -
protesters carry signs for anti abortion, gun rights, anti immigrants, anti science, anti Democrats, etc. Carrying assault rifles and lacking masks while not practicing social distancing, they are exposing themselves for what they are - extremists. Polling locks up 85% approval of DeWines action. Schools are in favor of his actions. Hospitals favor his stance. Safety forces line up with the governor. Parents are o.k. with it. Many business are still open and operating .
What pressure is on DeWine ? He is currently the toast of the town.
protesters carry signs for anti abortion, gun rights, anti immigrants, anti science, anti Democrats, etc. Carrying assault rifles and lacking masks while not practicing social distancing, they are exposing themselves for what they are - extremists. Polling locks up 85% approval of DeWines action. Schools are in favor of his actions. Hospitals favor his stance. Safety forces line up with the governor. Parents are o.k. with it. Many business are still open and operating .
What pressure is on DeWine ? He is currently the toast of the town.
Down The Road
Well-known member
Admittedly it's all confusing state and fed both. But the Federal guidelines outline after 14 days of declines what each step is, here in Ohio everything is that much more uncertain. I don't believe that our state leadership will allow us to go the federal route because they risk losing their control. And I understand the good and bad of that. But give us a goal to reach when we can completely open again
Oh, well, then you must be right.
The Dock
Persona Non Grata
In a poll published this week by Baldwin-Wallace University, 85% of Ohioans responded that they approve of Governor Mike DeWine's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. The poll was conducted last week. (Question 13, Page 17 of the poll.)
56% of respondents that identified their voter registration as "Republican" believe that Gov. DeWine is handling the COVID-19 pandemic better than Donald Trump. 67.5% of respondents that identified the population density where they reside as "Rural" believe that Gov. DeWine is handling the COVID-19 pandemic better than Donald Trump. (Question 15, Page 18 of the poll.)
The poll can be found here: https://www.bw.edu/Assets/community-research-institute/04-2020_ohio_poll release.pdf
Outlook for sports from cleveland.com:
www.cleveland.com
What Ohio high school sports could look like in the fall of 2020 to spring 2021
Football in the spring? Condensed seasons? Let's outline the questions the OHSAA must answer by this fall.
www.cleveland.com
Iroquois
Well-known member
Because everything is getting pushed back. If we have football the start date will be much later than years past. It's not like it's only a 2 week difference. We will have to see what happens, but i'm telling if we have football the game schedule will be effected. Lets pray for the best. jmo
Parents are not going to be okay with it this Fall, I can assure you. They will want their kids in school, physically. Teachers, hospital workers, safety forces and everyone else okay with this for now, are only okay because they still have jobs. When the jobs are lost and the government money starts to trickle, nearly everyone will want the precautions lifted.
Jaws31
It had to be done
Read the comments on twitter. He is anything but the toast of the town. People are fed up with just about every aspect of him at this point.
Jaws31
It had to be done
Exactly, you are 100% correct. There are no parents that I know that are OK with this. If Dewine keeps talking about blended or remote learning in June/July and the numbers continue to be minimal,or even subside, then the pressure will be immense from the populace to reopen the schools.
Jaws31
It had to be done
I wouldn't consider a total of 677 people saying they approve that Dewine is representative of all of Ohio. Read any comments on any social media account and it is overwhelmingly the opposite opinion.
These polls are always misleading in that you don't get any information on where they were taken. What community, age group, economic base was asked? Have their employment been effected by Dewines decisions? Do any of them have kids affected by the remote learning situation? If they were mostly retirement age then yes, they would be supportive.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Paladin1aa
Well-known member
I always get a chuckle when people complain about polls. Usually it’s because the poll goes against their position. The reality is polls are a fairly accurate snapshot. Famously, politicans complain about polls , yet they spend millions of dollars of their campaign money on internal or campaign polls trying to see what their canvassing shows. They don’t like professional firms doing them , but they can’t help themselves from doing their own . lol. Results are usually very much the same.
As for complaints on the internet, what’s new ? We are well aware of the lies, fraud, misleading statements and outright criminal activity on the internet. A reputable source is always necessary. Expecting a good football team from not playing pales when it goes against life or death choices. A vaccine is the only cure for the problem and that is widely seen by both many R and D governors. The virus doesn’t give a crap about football, but it does love crowds, people playing contact sports, pileups, huddles, sideline players groups and refs in penalty discussions. Given the 85% poll approval of DeWine in his position, until polls show a solid majority against him on this, without a vaccine or with a threat of a second wave , he will prevail.
As for complaints on the internet, what’s new ? We are well aware of the lies, fraud, misleading statements and outright criminal activity on the internet. A reputable source is always necessary. Expecting a good football team from not playing pales when it goes against life or death choices. A vaccine is the only cure for the problem and that is widely seen by both many R and D governors. The virus doesn’t give a crap about football, but it does love crowds, people playing contact sports, pileups, huddles, sideline players groups and refs in penalty discussions. Given the 85% poll approval of DeWine in his position, until polls show a solid majority against him on this, without a vaccine or with a threat of a second wave , he will prevail.