Pelini and YSU

falguin

Active member
Should Pelini be on the hot seat? Other than the playoff season, YSU has not been great. Pelini has also behaved poorly on the field. If he doesn't win this year, should YSU fire him?>
 

falguin

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Sure,then who will they get to come to YoungsTown?...BAM!
I think there would be a lot of young coaches willing to come to Youngstown. The facilities at YSU are better than many FBS schools. If you haven't been to YSU's campus for twenty years or been to the downtown area lately, you will be shocked to see how nice the campus is and the downtown area. I'm shocked every time I go down to the campus because it has changed so much. I also think the area still has a good talent pool. Pelini just isn't doing the job.
 

tucson

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Surprised Pelini isn't doing better. Especially since he got a bad deal at Nebraska... shouldn't have been fired from there to begin with. That playoff season did take them all the way to the national championship game, but back-to-back subpar seasons has got to be disappointing. Pelini being a Youngstown-native, it might take a little more than that to let go of him though. YSU is in a tough conference. The MVFC is solid. They're also a big outlier in that league. It's not a great fit for them, but FCS has little-to-no better options for YSU aside from the OVC. Nothing else is geographically close.
 

falguin

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Surprised Pelini isn't doing better. Especially since he got a bad deal at Nebraska... shouldn't have been fired from there to begin with. That playoff season did take them all the way to the national championship game, but back-to-back subpar seasons has got to be disappointing. Pelini being a Youngstown-native, it might take a little more than that to let go of him though. YSU is in a tough conference. The MVFC is solid. They're also a big outlier in that league. It's not a great fit for them, but FCS has little-to-no better options for YSU aside from the OVC. Nothing else is geographically close.
Agree with everything you say. Having to travel to the Dakotas has to be a pain. When the closest league member is in Indiana, you will wrack up a lot of frequent flier miles. I did think that he got a bad deal in Nebraska, but winning there is easier than winning at YSU. Nebraska will have more than a few wins built into its schedule. All FBS teams from the major conferences play MAC like teams, which nine times out of ten, they will win. Then they will play one tough out of conference team. The worst a Nebraska team should be before conference play is 2-1 or 3-1 depending on how many out of conference games they play. Then once Nebraska got into BIG play, there are teams that they should beat because of tradition and money. Teams like Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois, and Minnesota are teams that Nebraska should beat on a regular basis. Then there are teams like Northwestern and Iowa who Nebraska will split with. Now the top teams (Michigan, tOSU, MSU, PSU) those are the teams Nebraska has a hard time beating and Pelini's inability to beat them got him fired. Basically, it should be pretty easy for a team like Nebraska to go 9-3 or 8-4 every year. Now try to play in a league that puts four or five teams in the playoffs every year. In YSU's league there is NDSU, SDSU, NIU, ISU, and Indiana SU all getting preseason top twenty-five rankings depending on the poll you look at. Then YSU plays a big FBS team like WVU or Pitt and it has a much tougher time getting to 7-4 or 8-3, which is needed to get into the playoffs. The loss to Butler last year was inexcusable. It was easy to watch the game, which unfortunately I did, and see that YSU was way more talented than that team. Plus, he blames the players for not executing on game day. That is his job. I hope he does better this year, but I have watched a lot of bad play calling, stupid antics on the sideline, and unmotivated play to think he should stay on. Even the one year they went to the playoffs it was a fluke that the starting QB was who it was. Injuries made Pelini play the QB who led them to the championship.
 

falguin

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YSU is not ranked in any preseason polls. We didn't even get a team to watch reference. We are also picked to finish seventh in the conference. Things are not on the upswing. I hope that YSU surprises everyone, but I don't think it's going to happen. Pelini is 5-6. 6-5, and 4-7 outside of the one playoff year. The team always looks confused and flat. I was at the Butler game last year, and it was obvious that we had the better talent; but we were out of it. Losing to Butler might be worse than losing to Mount Union. Heacock and Wolford had too many 7-4 and 8-4 seasons. Back then those records wouldn't get you in the playoffs. Today they will and Pelini can't get there. Heacock and Wolford would have been in the playoffs multiple times if they were coaching today. Heacock won the conference one year and didn't get in. I just can't believe that the program is not getting any votes for preseason top 25. Three of Wolford's five seasons had seven wins or more. Heacock had five seasons of nine of seven wins or more. Pelini has one in four. Both Heacock and Wolford would never had been fired if they would have made the playoffs those years. Pelini should be fired after this year if doesn't get at least seven wins.
 

m14brian

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I have to agree with falguin.
For Pelini’s experience at Nebraska it sure is a let down not winning at least 7 games a year at YSU.
YSU’s conference is the best hands down not even close. I’m always torn whether they should stay or go.
And a 4-7 year is totally unacceptable.
 

Qcity

Well-known member
Compare and contrast with what former Nebraska coach Frank Solich has done at Ohio U.

Solich has been consistently successful.
 
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