Being even more brutally realistic, very few teams I see field a 14 man varsity line up.I know I am not the majority but I think this is what the sport needs. There are less kids involved (families are smaller now also) and no reason to continue on this path of so many weight classes. Ok, it eliminates 2 official spots, one of varsity level and one at the JV level. So?? Some say it's opportunities gone but I say it is a needed change. Once again, Just my 2 cents.
I totally agree with your weights as stated. I do think 106 should be gone. But the argument would be that the little guys in school don't have a weight class. Wrestling has always been a sport that size does not matter.Again, I think it’s a bad move. I love it the way it is, and feel it is best for the sport and the kids.
But, if it comes to this, then, IMO...
make it coincide with college weights more closely.
Get rid of the predominantly freshman and sophomore weight class of 106.
Data that I’ve seen (sectional entry grids) point to this being the least populated weight anyway.
Maybe something like this, or very close to it.
112, 119, 126, 133, 140, 147, 155, 164, 174, 185, 198, 220, 285
125, 133, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197, 285
College jumps 8 lbs thru half the classes, then 9 lbs, 10 lbs, 13 lbs, then hwt.
High school can jump 7 lbs, then 8 lbs, 9 lbs, etc.
I actually believe 11 weights is where the sport needs to go, which I know most people think is crazy. 11 comes from the desire to have an odd number for dual meet tiebreaker criteria while also consolidating the sport. Sometimes you need to consolidate to better operate and this is the situation for wrestling right now.I know I am not the majority but I think this is what the sport needs. There are less kids involved (families are smaller now also) and no reason to continue on this path of so many weight classes. Ok, it eliminates 2 official spots, one of varsity level and one at the JV level. So?? Some say it's opportunities gone but I say it is a needed change. Once again, Just my 2 cents.
I wish I could understand why this keeps coming up. Maybe I am just dense but people can't even agree on the proper number of weight classes or what those classes should be as it is now. There is virtually zero chance that they could ever agree on what the weight class differences should be between duals and tournaments. No matter how you do it, someone gets squeezed out.Why not 14 for post season tournament and less for duals? Say 11-12 for a dual.
Sup,I actually believe 11 weights is where the sport needs to go, which I know most people think is crazy. 11 comes from the desire to have an odd number for dual meet tiebreaker criteria while also consolidating the sport. Sometimes you need to consolidate to better operate and this is the situation for wrestling right now.
The sport for too long has prioritized the elite at such an extreme level it has killed off a lot of the depth in the sport, which we do need to sustain. It seems today that the sport has stigmatized being on JV at a level not really seen in other sports. I have seen many kids quit as they get into their junior year if they can't crack the varsity line-up and while this route doesn't make it any easier, it may help them find more pride in being on a JV squad. Either way, we need more depth and if we can't achieve that through more bodies then we need to artificially create it through consolidation.
In a way, we sacrifice a lot of our depth in the sport in the pursuit of providing for the elite kids. Wrestling is weird in that there is almost an expectation of our elite guys to be state placers as a freshman, which is again, kind of a weird phenomenon of wrestling, and to an extent other Olympic sports. We schedule a bunch of tournaments to get those elite kids matches, often because dual and tri-meets have too many forfeits with no guarantee your best guys even get matches. The irony of the whole thing is the pivot to more tournaments is another of the many reasons kids/families struggle to come into the sport. 14 hour days in gyms, or for many new kids who go 2 and out 5 hour days, does not create the excitement or interest to hold them long term.
If the commonly held belief that dual meets are needed to sustain and revive the sport then we need those duals to be wrestled with full line ups. By consolidating we are more likely to see full lineups by both squads and in turn more competitive and exciting dual meets. It also pushes other guys down to the next tiers, which in turn creates more competitive and entertaining events at those levels. For a new kid/family in the sport on JV, or the freshman squad, going to a mid-week dual where half or more of the matches are forfeits gives a less than desirable impression of the sport.
I already know many of the responses will be "it's the coach's job to recruit" or "it's the coach's job to make the JV guys happy to be there", which I agree with completely. I would counter with the fact the sport as a whole is hemorrhaging and coaches have been doing these things to the best of there ability on the whole for a while now. Others will say, "But I at (insert small school) have great numbers, why should we take spots from them?", to which I would respond that if something doesn't change future kids won't have spots at all.
TL;DR: Cut down to 11 weights to make the dual meet environment healthier and to build better depth and numbers in the sport.
Something like that has to be done. Lose a lot of upper classmen if they can't break into the varsity line up. Also pushes for drastic weight cuts.Allow 2 kids from the same team wrestle in most regular season AND all sectional tournaments.
I believe this will keep kids interested and keep them on the team.
Regular season and sectionals will be affected, but districts and state will have the same number of wrestlers as before.
It’ll be full sectional brackets again!!!
There are issues involved here that I’ve already thought of (not gonna list them), but this fixes the JV stigma.