Northwest Ohio Realignment

eastisbest

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My brother went to Holy Spirit in the early/mid 70's. They had their own basketball team that played CYO games but not in the OHSAA. They didn't have a huge enrollment if I remember correctly.p

Thanks. I was wondering. I knew of them but barely. I'm not even sure where they were located. There is a Holy Spirit Semenary near SJJ on Airport. If you can, ask your brother please.
 

eastisbest

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Did not see the link originally.

Gladieux, Juhasz, and Kamelesky. That is like Eastside royalty right there. ?

Kamelesky is new to me.

Heintshel? Euclid Heintshel related? There's bunches of those. Horvaths, Krasula, Hymore (there's a cop named Hymore). Guerrero? Birmingham? He looks a bit chucky to be from the basketball side of that name.
 

irish_buffalo

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Kamelesky is new to me.

Heintshel? Euclid Heintshel related? There's bunches of those. Horvaths, Krasula, Hymore (there's a cop named Hymore). Guerrero? Birmingham? He looks a bit chucky to be from the basketball side of that name.
Big Stritch name. Holy Rosary folks. Quiroga was another.

The funny thing about it is back in the day E. Toledo was so populated with different enclaves that you could hang in Birmingham and never know folks from Oakdale. They were worlds apart.
 

eastisbest

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Big Stritch name. Holy Rosary folks. Quiroga was another.

The funny thing about it is back in the day E. Toledo was so populated with different enclaves that you could hang in Birmingham and never know folks from Oakdale. They were worlds apart.

That's still true. Those are far apart particularly with Weiler and Ravine housing separating them from the other neighborhoods. STUPID socialist decision by the county.

Because of numbers, we had joint team in jr high but I was an adult before I even went into Birmingham. Garfield between us and closest to the high school always had a full team. Usually the champs, we beat them 7th only to go and play full facial hairs from Hamilton in the Toy Bowl. We shared the bowl with Sacred Heart. Had a scrimmage against. I got to line up across from Jaco. Our coach had no sense of.... proportion.
 

chipshot

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Where might we get our hands on this?

You can order through his website at link above. Lynn does a great job of covering area teams/players and I second the suggestion to purchase his magazine.
 

OHIOVSTW419

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Even the barbers want payment by cell phone these days. I'll have to get my copy the usual way, digging through your trash. I'd appreciate if you'd learn to read a bit faster. I missed nearly the entire OOC last year.
there is a place on your way to Genoa that only accepts cash. Head across the street when youre done, and get the best ice cream in NW ohio, too.
 

NLLBEST

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My prediction if realignment was this year instead of next. Going forward the top 4 will be fun but the bottom 2 won’t enjoy it long in the Big NLL. Right now Ross would clearly rule the small NLL but going forward it should be pretty even entertaining football. In the NBC Eastwood should be good again this year and it looks like Elmwood is the favorite to challenge them in their last year in the NBC, I think 2-7 would be very competitive and hopefully it will be in the future.

NLL Big
Whitmer
Findlay
Perrysburg
Anthony Wayne
Northview
Springfield

NLL Small
Ross
Southview
Clay
Napoleon
BG

NBC
Eastwood
Genoa
Oak Harbor
Maumee
Rossford
Otsego
Lake
Fostoria
 
My prediction if realignment was this year instead of next. Going forward the top 4 will be fun but the bottom 2 won’t enjoy it long in the Big NLL. Right now Ross would clearly rule the small NLL but going forward it should be pretty even entertaining football. In the NBC Eastwood should be good again this year and it looks like Elmwood is the favorite to challenge them in their last year in the NBC, I think 2-7 would be very competitive and hopefully it will be in the future.

NLL Big
Whitmer
Findlay
Perrysburg
Anthony Wayne
Northview
Springfield

NLL Small
Ross
Southview
Clay
Napoleon
BG

NBC
Eastwood
Genoa
Oak Harbor
Maumee
Rossford
Otsego
Lake
Fostoria

Looks about right in the NBC. Oak Harbor has a really good freshmen class. I could see them making the leapfrog into favorites going into the '23 season and beyond. Will be fun to see them and Eastwood/Genoa battling it out. Maumee and Rossford could add some interesting matchups too in years to come.
 

ToledoGuy

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My prediction if realignment was this year instead of next. Going forward the top 4 will be fun but the bottom 2 won’t enjoy it long in the Big NLL. Right now Ross would clearly rule the small NLL but going forward it should be pretty even entertaining football. In the NBC Eastwood should be good again this year and it looks like Elmwood is the favorite to challenge them in their last year in the NBC, I think 2-7 would be very competitive and hopefully it will be in the future.

NLL Big
Whitmer
Findlay
Perrysburg
Anthony Wayne
Northview
Springfield

NLL Small
Ross
Southview
Clay
Napoleon
BG

NBC
Eastwood
Genoa
Oak Harbor
Maumee
Rossford
Otsego
Lake
Fostoria
I, admittedly, know very little about the bottom half of the NBC, but if Maumee would be the 4th best team in the NBC this year, I'm concerned that those teams are sending out small children to play against 18-year-olds.

How the leagues will stack up this year:
TRAC-
1. Central
2. Whitmer
3. Findlay
4. Ross
5. SJJ
6. SFS
7. Clay
8. Lima

NLL-
1. Perrysburg
2. Anthony Wayne
3. Northview
4-7. Names of a out hat between Napoleon, BG, Southview, and Springfield beating their heads in against each other
8. Maumee
 

ayCC!

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NLL-
1. Perrysburg
2. Anthony Wayne
3. Northview
4-7. Names of a out hat between Napoleon, BG, Southview, and Springfield beating their heads in against each other
8. Maumee

Southview could be at 3-4 this year if they play at their max I feel.
 

NLLBEST

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I, admittedly, know very little about the bottom half of the NBC, but if Maumee would be the 4th best team in the NBC this year, I'm concerned that those teams are sending out small children to play against 18-year-olds.

How the leagues will stack up this year:
TRAC-
1. Central
2. Whitmer
3. Findlay
4. Ross
5. SJJ
6. SFS
7. Clay
8. Lima

NLL-
1. Perrysburg
2. Anthony Wayne
3. Northview
4-7. Names of a out hat between Napoleon, BG, Southview, and Springfield beating their heads in against each other
8. Maumee
I agree with the TRAC but the in the NLL I think 3-8 is all a coin flip with SV as my favorite going in as they return a lot on both sides with talented underclassmen. BG and Napoleon are both moving to more spread, we’ll see how that works out. I think both Northview and Napoleon with new coaches will probably take some time to get things going but both were hired from within so there’s familiarity. Springfield and Maumee should both be better than last year if they stay healthy.
 

dappling

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I, admittedly, know very little about the bottom half of the NBC, but if Maumee would be the 4th best team in the NBC this year, I'm concerned that those teams are sending out small children to play against 18-year-olds.

How the leagues will stack up this year:
TRAC-
1. Central
2. Whitmer
3. Findlay
4. Ross
5. SJJ
6. SFS
7. Clay
8. Lima

NLL-
1. Perrysburg
2. Anthony Wayne
3. Northview
4-7. Names of a out hat between Napoleon, BG, Southview, and Springfield beating their heads in against each other
8. Maumee
Maumee is pretty excited this year as they have a lot of returning starters and feel more confident.

they could beat north view, southview, Springfield, Napoleon, and bg

the over and under for maumee is 4.5 wins.
 

ToledoGuy

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Maumee is pretty excited this year as they have a lot of returning starters and feel more confident.

they could beat north view, southview, Springfield, Napoleon, and bg

the over and under for maumee is 4.5 wins.
Chicken Salad theory...not sure just having people return matters all that much when the talent gap is as much as it has been for Maumee for years. They scored 32 points the entire season last year and only let one team in the NLL score fewer than 40 points on them, in a game played in a freezing monsoon where Springfield fumbled 3 times in the red zone and Maumee had like 12 yards of offense. I just don't see it, but it would be nice to be wrong.

I think NV is the top of that heap of 4-5 teams given they return 4 OL, 3/4 DL, 2/3 LBs and their QB and one of their starting WRs I believe, and they were in that position last year.

Now if you gave me Springfield as the team with that write-up, I would be more on-board at this point. At least they had a win last year and lost on a borderline hail mary to NV, had their games against SV and BG end on practically exactly the same outcome (clock runs out with possession in the redzone in a one score game), and gave a hobbled Perrysburg and Whitmer a game for 3 quarters. No idea what they have coming back, but they at least showed some fight. Heard their scrimmage against Whitmer was not exactly something to be optimistic about though.
 
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NLLBEST

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Chicken Salad theory...not sure just having people return matters all that much when the talent gap is as much as it has been for Maumee for years. They scored 32 points the entire season last year and only let one team in the NLL score fewer than 40 points on them, in a game played in a freezing monsoon where Springfield fumbled 3 times in the red zone and Maumee had like 12 yards of offense. I just don't see it, but it would be nice to be wrong.

I think NV is the top of that heap of 4-5 teams given they return 4 OL, 3/4 DL, 2/3 LBs and their QB and one of their starting WRs I believe, and they were in that position last year.

Now if you gave me Springfield as the team with that write-up, I would be more on-board at this point. At least they had a win last year and lost on a borderline hail mary to NV, had their games against SV and BG end on practically exactly the same outcome (clock runs out with possession in the redzone in a one score game), and gave a hobbled Perrysburg and Whitmer a game for 3 quarters. No idea what they have coming back, but they at least showed some fight. Heard their scrimmage against Whitmer was not exactly something to be optimistic about though.
I’m pretty sure Northview’s QB graduated, along with a talented RB. I don’t believe the returning lineman numbers are right either. I don’t know that they’ll be terrible but I would surprised if they’re better in Silm’s first year.
I do think Springfield could be dangerous and will improve some but I think they lost a couple very good running back/linebackers and will still probably be a year away from their best team since Gucciardo left.
Maumee has really struggled up front since the ‘17 football season, there is reason to believe this year the line play will be much better on both sides of the ball (return 15 of 18 lineman from last year) and the athleticism hasn’t been far off from the better teams in the league most years. I’m not sure about how many wins they’ll end up with but I think they’ll be competitive (close in the 4th) in the majority of their games.
 
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dappling

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I’m pretty sure Northview’s QB graduated, along with a talented RB. I don’t believe the returning lineman numbers are right either. I don’t know that they’ll be terrible but I would surprised if they’re better in Silm’s first year.
I do think Springfield could be dangerous and will improve some but I think they lost a couple very good running back/linebackers and will still probably be a year away from their best team since Gucciardo left.
Maumee has really struggled up front since the ‘17 football season, there is reason to believe this year the line play will be much better on both sides of the ball (return 15 of 18 lineman from last year) and the athleticism hasn’t been far off from the better teams in the league most years. I’m not sure about how many wins they’ll end up with but I think they’ll be competitive (close in the 4th) in the majority of their games.
I would agree. Maumee’s qb is their strength as well.
 

ToledoGuy

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I’m pretty sure Northview’s QB graduated, along with a talented RB. I don’t believe the returning lineman numbers are right either. I don’t know that they’ll be terrible but I would surprised if they’re better in Silm’s first year.
I do think Springfield could be dangerous and will improve some but I think they lost a couple very good running back/linebackers and will still probably be a year away from their best team since Gucciardo left.
Maumee has really struggled up front since the ‘17 football season, there is reason to believe this year the line play will be much better on both sides of the ball (return 15 of 18 lineman from last year) and the athleticism hasn’t been far off from the better teams in the league most years. I’m not sure about how many wins they’ll end up with but I think they’ll be competitive (close in the 4th) in the majority of their games.
You're right, I thought Thor was a junior for Northview, but he graduated. The lineman numbers are confirmed based on their printed roster from last season.

I just don't see it with Maumee, but as an alum, I hope you guys are right. I do think the NLL as a whole might be the worst it has been in at leaat two decades overall, so this may be the year they can claw back.
 

buccaneers2002

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From The Blade:
Biggest question

Will the league realignment help or hurt future big-school football competition in northwest Ohio? When the TRAC goes defunct following the 2022-23 school year, Whitmer, Findlay, Fremont Ross, and Clay will join separate (upper/lower) divisions in an expanded Northern Lakes League, Catholic-school members Central Catholic, St. Francis, and St. John’s will join the Michigan-based Catholic High School League with teams from the Detroit area, and Lima Senior will become the City League’s seventh team. This realignment seems destined to reduce the iron-sharpens-iron impact that has brought out the best in Toledo-area big-school teams, has created inconvenient scheduling mixes in an 11-team NLL and 7-team CL, and driven three teams out of the state to compete in a league.
 

irish_buffalo

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From The Blade:
Biggest question

Will the league realignment help or hurt future big-school football competition in northwest Ohio? When the TRAC goes defunct following the 2022-23 school year, Whitmer, Findlay, Fremont Ross, and Clay will join separate (upper/lower) divisions in an expanded Northern Lakes League, Catholic-school members Central Catholic, St. Francis, and St. John’s will join the Michigan-based Catholic High School League with teams from the Detroit area, and Lima Senior will become the City League’s seventh team. This realignment seems destined to reduce the iron-sharpens-iron impact that has brought out the best in Toledo-area big-school teams, has created inconvenient scheduling mixes in an 11-team NLL and 7-team CL, and driven three teams out of the state to compete in a league.
I'm really looking forward to the yearly Perrysburg vs Whitmer match-ups. The roughly 25 minute trip on a Friday night will be a pain but the games should be worth it.
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