NCAA Preseason Polls

bdhof

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My interest in NCAA polls is somewhat diminished this year, due to whether or not there is a season is still a legitimate question. With that being said, I'll probably throw stuff out here as I become aware of it. It's tough being a wrestling fan, as Ohio HS championships, NCAAs, and Olympics all got nuked and the 2020-21 season is still in doubt. Now the 2020 Worlds (put in place of Olympics) is up in the air as well. With all that being said, I'm tired of talking about covid on Yappi, so I'll give this a whirl.

The Open Mat (TOM) and Flo have both come out with PS rankings. I don't do Flo b/c they have a paywall. TOM actually came out with this on 7/6 but I missed it b/c I've been tuned out of wrestling due to nothing going on. Now, keep in mind that PS polls are ripe for mistakes. We don't know who might take a RS, we don't know if NCAAs will allow another OLY RS, many weights will be wrong, and typically new guys like Echemendia don't get listed (altho Karch did in TOM's rankings). So, take everything with a grain of salt. Drum roll, please.....

TOM Team Rankings
1 Iowa 116.5
2 Michigan 78.5
3 Cornell 67
4 Oklahoma State 61
5 Penn State 60
6 Nebraska 46.5
7 Ohio State 43.5
8 NC State 39
9 Virginia Tech 38
10 Iowa State 36
 
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bdhof

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Here's TOM's projected AAs
125

1 Spencer Lee Iowa Sr.
2 Patrick Glory Princeton Jr.
3 Vito Arujau Cornell So.
4 Rayvon Foley Michigan State Jr.
5 Devin Schroder Purdue Sr.
6 Brock Hudkins Indiana Sr.
7 Drew Hildebrandt Central Michigan Sr.
8 Brandon Paetzell Lehigh Sr.
(24 Malik Heinselman Ohio State Jr.)

133

1 Daton Fix Oklahoma State So.
2 Stevan Micic Michigan Sr.
3 Roman-Bravo Young Penn State Jr.
4 Austin DeSanto Iowa Sr.
5 Micky Phillipi Pittsburgh Jr.
6 Montorie Bridges Wyoming Sr.
7 Sammy Alvarez Rutgers So.
8 Michael McGee Arizona State Jr.
(31 Jordan Decatur Ohio State So.)

141

1 Yianni Diakomihalis Cornell Jr.
2 Jaydin Eierman Iowa Sr.
3 Nick Lee Penn State Sr.
4 Sebastian Rivera Rutgers Sr.
5 Real Woods Stanford So.
6 Dom Demas Oklahoma Jr.
7 Kaid Brock Oklahoma State Sr.
8 Ian Parker Iowa State Sr.

149
1 Austin O’Connor North Carolina Jr.
2 Sammy Sasso Ohio State So.
3 Brock Mauller Missouri Jr.
4 Boo Lewallen Oklahoma State Sr.
5 Brayton Lee Minnesota So.
6 Jarrett Degen Iowa State Sr.
7 Kanen Storr Michigan Sr.
8 Max Murin Iowa Jr.

157
1 Ryan Deakin Northwestern Sr.
2 Hayden Hidlay NC State Sr.
3 David Carr Iowa State So.
4 Jesse Dellavecchia Rider Sr.
5 Quincy Monday Princeton Sr.
6 Kendall Coleman Purdue So.
7 Jacori Teemer Arizona State So.
8 Josh Humphreys Lehigh Jr.

165
1 Mekhi Lewis Virginia Tech So.
2 Alex Marinelli Iowa Sr.
3 Shane Griffith Stanford So.
4 Travis Wittlake Oklahoma State So.
5 Evan Wick Wisconsin Sr.
6 Tanner Skidgel Navy Sr.
7 Thomas Bullard NC State Sr.
8 Joe Lee Penn State Fr.
(10 Carson Kharchla Ohio State Fr.)

174

1 Michael Kemerer Iowa Sr.
2 Mike Labriola Nebraska Jr.
3 Logan Massa Michigan Sr.
4 Kaleb Romero Ohio State Jr.
5 Demertius Romero Utah Valley Sr.
6 Carter Starocci Penn State Fr.
7 Matt Finesilver Duke Jr.
8 Anthony Valencia Arizona State Sr.

184
1 Myles Amine Michigan Sr.
2 Max Dean Cornell Jr.
3 Hunter Bolen Virginia Tech Jr.
4 Aaron Brooks Penn State So.
5 Louie DePrez Binghamton Jr.
6 Trent Hidlay NC State So.
7 Taylor Venz Nebraska Sr.
8 Anthony Montalvo Oklahoma State So.
(12 Rocky Jordan Ohio State So.)

197

1 Noah Adams West Virginia So.
2 Eric Schultz Nebraska Sr.
3 Ben Darmstadt Cornell Jr.
4 Cameron Caffey Michigan State Jr.
5 Jay Aiello Virginia Sr.
6 Jacob Warner Iowa Jr.
7 Kordell Norfleet Arizona State Jr.
8 Greg Bulsak Clarion Sr.
(17 Chase Singletary Ohio State Jr.)

285

1 Gable Steveson Minnesota Jr.
2 Mason Parris Michigan Jr.
3 Anthony Cassioppi Iowa So.
4 Matt Stencel Central Michigan Sr.
5 Trent Hillger Wisconsin Jr.
6 Tate Orndorff Ohio State Jr.
7 Jordan Wood Lehigh Sr.
8 Yaraslau Slavikouski Harvard So.
 
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bdhof

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While there's a lot of questions (beyond if there's a season), I think IOWA is a strong favorite coming out of the gate. And I think tOSU could move up w/ Echemendia in the lineup, and Karch and Singletary getting on the podium (which I think both will do). PSU at 5th does not shock me. I think if we had NCAAs last year they would have been 30-40 behind IOWA, just finished 4th at B10s, and would have battled tOSU and maybe others for 2nd. And they just lost NCAA champs Hall, Joseph, and Ceasar, and AAs Rasheed and Nevils. While I don't think anyone challenges IOWA (unless a few serious injuries), MICH, CORN, and OKST all could be considered the 2nd best team in NCAAs. And I don't count out tOSU (or PSU) as making a run at #2.
 
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bdhof

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141 is just an awesome group....
Yeah, the top 6 are all outstanding, and I could almost see any of them winning a title. Maybe Demas is a bit of a stretch, but I think he could beat any of them on a given day. And then you squeeze Echemendia in there. I think he's outmatched by this group but, like Demas, could knock off a few of these guys.
 

bdhof

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Strolling down memory lane...
2019 PS Rankings

Barring injuries, PSU and IOWA should wage a furious battle for the B10 and NCAA titles. They also face off in a dual on 1/31 in Iowa City. Here's a look at their lineups (w/ IM rankings):
PSU
125 Teske NR
133 RBY #3
141 Lee #2
149 Verk NR
157 Berge #8
165 Joseph #1
174 Hall #1
184 Rasheed #3
197 Conel #3
285 Cassar #1
Projected pts w/o bonus 122

That's putting 8 guys on the podium, with 7 top 3s, 4 in the finals and 3 champs. To get there PSU has three 6th year Medical RS guys, including KSU transfer (and Moore killer) Conel. Their two guys NR are both kind of NCAA Q type of guys at this point of the season.

IOWA
125 Lee #1
133 Desanto #2
141 Murin #8
149 Lugo #4
157 Young #2
165 Marinelli #2
174 Kemmerer #4
184 Wilcke #8
197 Warner #4
285 Cass #13
Projected pts w/o bonus 118

That's putting 9 guys on the podium with 7 in the top 4 and 4 in the finals. And Cass could find the podium after having a 20-2 RS season.
 

bdhof

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Strolling down memory lane...
2019 PS Rankings

Barring injuries, PSU and IOWA should wage a furious battle for the B10 and NCAA titles. They also face off in a dual on 1/31 in Iowa City. Here's a look at their lineups (w/ IM rankings):
PSU
125 Teske NR
133 RBY #3
141 Lee #2
149 Verk NR
157 Berge #8
165 Joseph #1
174 Hall #1
184 Rasheed #3
197 Conel #3
285 Cassar #1
Projected pts w/o bonus 122

That's putting 8 guys on the podium, with 7 top 3s, 4 in the finals and 3 champs. To get there PSU has three 6th year Medical RS guys, including KSU transfer (and Moore killer) Conel. Their two guys NR are both kind of NCAA Q type of guys at this point of the season.

IOWA
125 Lee #1
133 Desanto #2
141 Murin #8
149 Lugo #4
157 Young #2
165 Marinelli #2
174 Kemmerer #4
184 Wilcke #8
197 Warner #4
285 Cass #13
Projected pts w/o bonus 118

That's putting 9 guys on the podium with 7 in the top 4 and 4 in the finals. And Cass could find the podium after having a 20-2 RS season.
As this season wore on, PSU wilted away due to injuries while IOWA grew stronger. Here's where their lineup ended up in NCAA seeds:

IOWA
125 Lee #1
133 Desanto #6 (was 2)
141 Murin #7 (was 8)
149 Lugo #1 (was 4)
157 Young #8 (was 2)
165 Marinelli #1 (was 2)
174 Kemmerer #2 (was 4)
184 Assad #11 (was Wilke 8)
197 Warner #5 (was 4)
285 Cass #3 (was 13)
Projected pts w/o bonus 122.5 (was 118)

PSU
125 Meredith DNQ (was Teske NR)
133 RBY #5 (was 3)
141 Lee #2
149 Verk #19 (was NR)
157 Pipher DNQ (was Berge #8)
165 Joseph #2 (was 1)
174 Hall #1
184 Brooks #3 (was Rasheed #3)
197 Rasheed #21 (was Conel #3)
285 Nevills DNQ (was Cassar #1)
Projected pts w/o bonus 76 (was 122)
 

Pope Francis 1

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Good stuff. I’ll just be happy with a season... even with Iowa as the top dog!

Any idea where the B1G and NCAA tourneys are scheduled to be held?
 

Yankeefan33

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Heads up, a TON of people have Olympic Redshirt ability, and the list could actually grow larger.

Penn State: Nick Lee, Aaron Brooks, Brady Berge, Greg Kerkvliet
Iowa: Spencer Lee, Abe Assad, Jacob Warner, Jaydin Eierman
Michigan: Kanen Storr, Myles Amine, Logan Massa, Stevan Micic, Kurt McHenry, Will Lewan, Mason Parris
Cornell: Yianni Diakomihalis, Josh Saunders, Vito Arujau, Max Dean
Ohio State: Gavin Hoffman, Tate Orndorff

Those are just Top 8 or so teams with multiple guys. Something to watch out for if the season is postponed/up in the air.
 

bdhof

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WIN came out with their PS poll a few days ago. I'm on vacation with the grandkids so I don't know how much time I'll have to mess with it (but it is raining today). But, the top 10 have IOWA as a runaway favorite to no one's surprise and tOSU at T7th in a group that is pretty tightly bunched in a battle for 2nd. And PSU is 9th. I think both tOSU and PSU will emerge as a threat for 2nd but there is a lot of parity beyond IOWA. WIN doesn't have Kharch or Echemedia ranked, which will change a lot. Likewise for some of the young guns at PSU and other teams.
 
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WIN
1. IOWA 114
2. MICH 72.5
3. CORN 68
4. OKST 56
5. NEB 52.5
6. IWOA ST 48.5
T7. tOSO 41.5
T7. NCST 41.5
9. PSU 40
10. VT 36.5
 

bdhof

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And, as mentioned before, we don't know who's taking a RS, OLY/RS, or if there'll even be a season.
 

bdhof

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Notes 2020 NCAA seeds I think

WIN projected AAs

125

1. Spencer Lee Iowa 18-0 1st Senior
2. Pat Glory Princeton 24-0 2nd Junior
3. Vito Arujau Cornell – RS Sophomore
4. Rayvon Foley Michigan State – RS Junior
5. Devin Schroder Purdue 26-5 5th Senior
6. Drew Hildebrandt Central Michigan 31-3 6th Senior
7. Michael DeAugustino Northwestern 21-8 8th Sophomore
8. Brandon Paetzell Lehigh 21-3 7th Senior

133
1. Nick Suriano Rutgers – RS Junior
2. Daton Fix Oklahoma State – RS Sophomore
3. Stevan Micic Michigan – RS Senior
4. Roman Bravo-Young Penn State 19-2 5th Junior
5. Austin DeSanto Iowa 17-4 6th Senior
6. Mickey Phillippi Pittsburgh 25-1 4th Junior
7. Ridge Lovett Nebraska 17-8 14th Sophomore
8. Austin Gomez Iowa State – RS Junior

141
1. Yianni Diakomihalis Cornell – RS Junior
2. Jaydin Eierman Iowa (Missouri transfer) – RS Senior
3. Nick Lee Penn State 20-1 2nd Senior
4. Sebastian Rivera Rutgers/ transfer Northwestern 13-2 1st/133 Senior
5. Real Woods Stanford 19-1 3rd Sophomore
6. Ian Parker Iowa State 22-3 4th Senior
7 Chad Red Jr. Nebraska 19-7 6th Senior
8. Dom Demas Oklahoma 26-4 5th Junior

To be continued...
 
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WIN projected AAs continued

149

1. Austin O`Connor North Carolina 25-1 2nd Junior
2. Sammy Sasso Ohio State 24-3 3rd Sophomore
3. Brock Mauller Missouri 29-1 4th Junior
4. Boo Lewallen Oklahoma State 21-2 5th Senior
5. Brayton Lee Minnesota 25-6 7th Sophomore
6. Jarrett Degen Iowa State 16-4 8th Senior
7. Kanen Storr Michigan 17-5 10th Senior
8. Andrew Alirez Northern Colorado 24-4 14th Sophomore

157
1. Ryan Deakin Northwestern 21-0 1st Senior
2. Hayden Hidlay NC State 28-1 2nd Senior
3. David Carr Iowa State 18-1 3rd Sophomore
4. Jesse Dellavecchia Rider 30-2 4th Grad
5. Quincy Monday Princeton 24-4 5th Junior
6. Kendall Coleman Purdue 29-8 6th Sophomore
7. Josh Humphreys Lehigh 20-5 7th Junior
8. Wyatt Sheets Oklahoma State 19-12 11th Junior

165
1. Mehki Lewis Virginia Tech – RS Sophomore
2. Alex Marinelli Iowa 20-1 1st Senior
3. Shane Griffith Stanford 28-0 3rd Sophomore
4. Travis Wittlake Oklahoma State 27-2 4th Sophomore
5. Anthony Valencia Arizona State 22-6 8th/174 Senior
6. Tanner Skidgel Navy 20-4 9th Senior
7. Thomas Bullard NC State 23-6 10th Senior
8. Jake Wentzel Pittsburgh 18-7 11th Senior
9. Ethan Smith Ohio State 19-13 12th Junior

174

1. Michael Kemerer Iowa 15-1 2nd Senior
2. Logan Massa Michigan – RS Senior
3. Mikey Labriola Nebraska 20-10 10th Junior
4. Kaleb Romero Ohio State 19-7 6th Junior
5. Anthony Mantanona Oklahoma 21-7 9th Junior
6. Demetrius Romero Utah Valley — Inj. Senior
7. Samuel Colbray Iowa State 18-9 13th Senior
8. Anthony Montalvo Oklahoma State 25-6 9th/184 Sophomore

184
1. Max Dean Cornell — RS Junior
2. Myles Amine Michigan – RS Grad
3. Hunter Bolen Virginia Tech 24-2 2nd Junior
4. Aaron Brooks Penn State 15-1 3rd Sophomore
5 Trent Hidlay NC State 23-4 5th Sophomore
6. Lou Deprez Binghamton 26-5 4th Junior
7. Nino Bonaccorsi Pittsburgh 23-5 10th Junior
8. Taylor Venz Nebraska 20-8 7th Senior
12. Rocky Jordan Ohio State 29-9 14th Sophomore

197

1. Noah Adams West Virginia 32-0 2nd Junior
2. Eric Schultz Nebraska 23-4 3rd Senior
3. Ben Darmstadt Cornell 28-6 4th Junior
4. Jacob Warner Iowa 20-4 5th Junior
5. Jay Aiello Virginia 27-4 7th Senior
6. Cameron Caffey Michigan State 27-7 6th/184 Junior
7. Kordell Norfleet Arizona State 14-3 9th Junior
8. Greg Bulsak Clarion 27-5 10th Senior

285
1. Gable Steveson Minnesota 15-0 1st Junior
2. Mason Parris Michigan 28-1 2nd Junior
3. Tony Cassioppi Iowa 20-3 3rd Sophomore
4. Matt Stencel Central Michigan 30-4 5th Senior
5. Trent Hillger Wisconsin 23-6 6th Junior
6. Tate Orndorff Ohio State (Utah Valley transfer) 18-4 8th Junior
7. Zach Elam Missouri — RS Sophomore
8. Yaraslau Slavikouski Harvard 30-8 10th Sophomore
 

bdhof

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I'm not sure how Singletary got left out of the 197s - not even in top 20. I think he'll be pretty good base on U23s.
 

bdhof

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I don't have stuff archived from last year, but I think tOSU was in the 5-7 range PS and ended up a strong favorite for #3. And they actually had a shot at PSU for #2 heading into NCAAs.
 
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