A lot of those other public's who are smaller are open enrollment or flat out recruit like crazy. That evens it out because mentor does neitherPublic school or not, it’s not other school districts problem whether Mentor fills out their schedule. Quite honestly you should be playing the Catholics, they’re some of the only schools that can match Mentors enrollment.
Looking at the list of D1 publics with week one openings, several schools on the list seem to be in the same boat. A few that caught my eyes other than Mentor are Colerain, Davidson, Pick North.A lot of those other public's who are smaller are open enrollment or flat out recruit like crazy. That evens it out because mentor does neither
St Eds actually has a mid tier d1 enrollment. Maybe some public's should schedule them
Brunswick has 10 less boys than us. They have no issues scheduling. There are like 8 public's bigger than us and they have no issues. It's not an enrollment issue. It's because mentor is good and a victim of their own success.
Columbus schools really don't like to travel up here. We've tried a ton in the past. They just don't want to play up here out of conference vs us.Looking at the list of D1 publics with week one openings, several schools on the list seem to be in the same boat. A few that caught my eyes other than Mentor are Colerain, Davidson, Pick North.
Mentor has played home and home with multiple private schools from cincy in Moeller and x. So yes it's pretty obvious they would play public's from half that distance away which is Columbus compared to cincyA few of you mention that other public schools “don’t want to schedule Mentor” or “Columbus schools don’t want to travel up to Mentor” - is Mentor willing to play a home & away two game series or do a one year deal (away game only)? Columbus schools would have travel cost and perhaps want to play on a Saturday providing it doesn’t interfere with the Ohio State game. Maybe Mentor should offer some $$$ to get a Columbus team to travel 3 hours up I71. There are several Columbus public schools so scheduling isn’t as difficult, especially for school districts with multiple high schools (Dublin, Hilliard & Westerville have 3 each, Olentangy has 4). These schools often play one another in OOC games if they are not in the same league. Also, per the last enrollment #’s for males grades 9 thru 11, Mentor is a bit bigger than most Columbus D1 schools. Most Columbus D1 schools have around 750 boys or less compared to Mentor’s 937. I believe Pickerington Central has played an out of state team for the last 3 years or so, I would think they would be willing.
You are changing what you said. You asked in the previous post if Mentor is willing to play a home and home. I give you examples showing they will and you change your narrativeYes, Mentor is willing to travel because they have to as do the big Cincy Catholic schools. Most of the Columbus public’s (excluding Pickeringtin Central) do not have to travel to find OOC games. Why would say a Westerville South want to travel 3 hours one way to play, giving up a whole Saturday & getting back home at 1am-ish, renting 3+ travel buses (team & band), most likely taking a loss and having maybe 300 people in the visitor stands when they could play say Westerville Central or North, have a 10 minute drive, have at least a 50% chance at a win, not have overage $$$ in your travel budget and have 1,500 people on the stands. So again, what is Mentor $$$$$ doing/offering to teams to come 3 hrs north to play? I assume Mentor is paying something to get the Canadian team to play them.
We are offering a home game for each team. Mentor isn't going to play a one off in Columbus especially vs many of the teams that haven't done as much as Mentor. Also yes we pay Canada something but instead of doing that with cbus we offerthem a home game as well. Canada is paid because they get no home gameI think I said the same thing in both post - what is Mentor doing to encourage the Columbus schools to play them? If Mentor doesn’t have a problem with scheduling, then why care if they schedule a Columbus public? I agree with you that at some point a smaller public will run into either a big Catholic or big public school in the playoffs but for regular season scheduling purposes they appear to be doing what they feel is best for their program. I would guess with a new head coach and losing a couple of OSU caliber players to graduation that Mentor is probably ok with playing a Canadian team in week 1. You do what’s best for your program.
Mentor in the 80s and 90s still played Canton McKinley and Solon and other schools. We were worse than them.Back to my Westerville South example - why should they do it when it will cost them more $$$ to play Mentor than a cross town rival? Mentor could offer that $$$ to a less established, less successful Ohio public instead of a Canadian team for Mentor home game only. Also, it’s a bit easier for Mentor to “sack up” and play, Mentor has had a very nice 20 year run and they are currently one of the big boys of Ohio football. Now the Mentor of say the 1980’s or 90’s would probably need to schedule a bit differently.
I agree with you, it would be nice to see more regular season games especially between the better central Ohio teams and teams from Cincinnati & Cleveland Regarding D1, the big Catholics and the big public’s (Colerain, Pickeringtin Central, Mentor, etc) those extra 200+ kids they have do provide extra depth which allows them to schedule extremely tough games week to week if they so choose to do. The Dublin & Hilliard schools are very competitive but if you reduced those districts from 3 high schools to just 2, I think they would make a difference.
Any public school worth a damn that will play us.Who do you think Mentor should play?
Why would we play a private school out of state when we play 2 in state already ?So if I’m to make a quick review of this thread, it goes something like this. Every Public D1 school in the area needs to play Mentor or they’re SOFT. You owe it to Mentor to help them fill their schedule or you’re SOFT. Mentor has a few hundred boys more then most D1 schools BUT they don’t recruit so play them, even if it doesn’t make sense for your school or you’re SCARED.
I have an idea why doesn’t Mentor call up Bishop Gorman and go out to Vegas and see where they stack up.
So the 2016 6-4 Mentor team that didn’t make the playoffs would have beaten the 13-2 Pickerington Central team? The 2015 PC team was 11-1 as well.Why would we play a private school out of state when we play 2 in state already ?
When's the last time your school played anybody like that. ..
There's a reason Mentor is playing 2 privates and team canada out of conference. It's because none of your schools will play us.
The enrollment stuff is bs. There are 7 (corrected from 8) public's bigger than Mentor. Others like west Clermont , Brunswick and a few more have 22 or less boys than us. And we don't recruit at all or have any open enrollment. So I don't want to hear it.
And yes Mentor has called all of the Columbus schools in the past including pick Central. Mentor played St x after they clobbered us 27-0 in a title game. They don't shy from teams that have beaten them once or twice. Before 2017 Mentor would have beaten pick Central the majority of the time. Things go in cycles
Pretty confident our 2011-2014 teams would ...So the 2016 6-4 Mentor team that didn’t make the playoffs would have beaten the 13-2 Pickerington Central team? The 2015 PC team was 11-1 as well.
Didn't say ducking. But you guys chose to try to get Euclid on your schedule over mentor for last year. Then Euclid pulled out.I also find it hard to believe that Mentor asked PC to play and we refused. Last year we went to Atlanta and Indiana in back to back weeks. We travel to Toledo and played Cass Tech a few years ago. In 2014 we played 10-1 Goose Creek South Carolina. In 2016 we played Elder down in Cincinnati. None of these games came with a return home game. So to insinuate that PC is ducking Mentor is ludicrous.
I am cocky? Maybe but I am not the one complaining about everyone being afraid to play us. If PC isn’t a powerhouse then who is? Two D1 State Championships in 3 years is pretty good. And just to be clear, PC played without their leading RB in 2017 and their best player played through an injury this year that required surgery as soon as the season ended. This significantly limited his touches. I agree the game was close, Mentor is a great team no doubt. Maybe we will play again in November.Pretty confident our 2011-2014 teams would ...
Also I know you are cocky and think pick is some powerhouse but the game this year was a one score game. That's with a bs interception you guys were awarded and our QB getting hurt as we were driving to tie at the end of the game.
Mentor played St x after 27-0 as I said. They would play pc after 28-21....
Last time around you guys tried to play Euclid instead of mentor. Then Euclid pulled out to play McKinley
Talk about PC in your thread. This is the mentor thread. If I want to complain about teams ducking us in OUR thread I will ...I am cocky? Maybe but I am not the one complaining about everyone being afraid to play us. If PC isn’t a powerhouse then who is? Two D1 State Championships in 3 years is pretty good. And just to be clear, PC played without their leading RB in 2017 and their best player played through an injury this year that required surgery as soon as the season ended. This significantly limited his touches. I agree the game was close, Mentor is a great team no doubt. Maybe we will play again in November.
You are correct, 2014 was 11-1Didn't say ducking. But you guys chose to try to get Euclid on your schedule over mentor for last year. Then Euclid pulled out.
I do think pick Central would be an option down the line. But they are one of the few. Most public's do duck Mentor which was my point.
Now you can leave the thread and make one about pick Central if you want the focus on them
PS you guys went 12-2 not 13_2 in 2016. And in 2015 you went 8-2 then lost in round one. So not sure how you got 11_1