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Big time HS football isn't cheap and Massie has apparently woefully mismanaged funding the past few years. It might be catching up.
 
Millennium Falcon said:
They need someone with a brain. You can't run the ball every down and expect to beat a rich team like Indian hill. They're playing 1920s football in 2024.
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1920s football is successful. The formula for playoff success in Ohio is running the ball. State champions every year pound the ball overall. There are anomalies but overall the boring offenses are more successful.
 
Millennium Falcon said:
They need someone with a brain. You can't run the ball every down and expect to beat a rich team like Indian hill. They're playing 1920s football in 2024.
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It was a 16-13 overtime loss in the second round of the playoffs, so maybe isn't the end of the world. How many State Championships does Indian Hill have in the last 20 years? Clinton-Massie has 3(2012,2013,2021) and Indian Hill has 0 so maybe 1920s football isn't so bad.
 
OldSchoolDC said:
It was a 16-13 overtime loss in the second round of the playoffs, so maybe isn't the end of the world. How many State Championships does Indian Hill have in the last 20 years? Clinton-Massie has 3(2012,2013,2021) and Indian Hill has 0 so maybe 1920s football isn't so bad.
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I predict Indian hill could become a power house this decade. They have the money to hire the personell. Word on the street is Mike Norvell will interview with them in the off season.
 
kyles_mom said:
From their league website, Massie had 11 passing TD's on 44 pass attempts this season. Does that qualify as a little bit?
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As long as it's not a statistical anomaly where they only throw in the 4th quarter trying to come back. I'm basing my observation on watching them live and seeing 1 passing attempt in a 10 point loss. If that's the exception and not the rule that's fine
 
Change ? maybe Adapt ? absolutely - the game is no longer played on worn down grass dirt mud unlevel pastures- These new playing fields have made the game faster - chip blocks and slide don't create the crease needed with 10 defensive players in the box. The 3 state titles were because Massie had exceptional talent those years
 
It’s funny, every year during the regular season we listen about the greatness and dominance of Massie. Then they get bounced in the playoffs, and it’s time to fire the coach and change is needed.
 
I know. I’ve heard the same thing about coach domsitz. Seems silly to me. Both mcsurley and domsitz are great coaches with multiple state championships. Both are loyal to their school because im sure they both could have left for bigger jobs. I would be willing to bet there are a lot of games that both of them wish they could have back but I bet both would say they wouldn’t change a thing about the way they run their programs. Obviously they still have a lot to offer and a passion for the game or they wouldn’t be there.
 
It blows my mind that Massie people want McSurely out because he doesn't throw it. They haven't won in any other sport at Massie besides the ones he's coached. Wrestling is WAY down from when McSurely ran it. Maybe he doesn't open it up and throw because that's not what is best for his team. He's done nothing but win and people want to complain about his X's and O's, unreal to me.
 
I haven't been in tune w/ Massie and their recent seasons so I looked it up, I really expected to see they had missed the playoffs or something... lol was I wrong. Let me get this straight:
2024 - 9-3 OT loss in the 2nd Round
2023 - 12-1 Loss in 3rd round to State Runner Up
2022 - 7-6, worst year, and they lost in the 3rd round to eventual state runner up.
2021 - 14-1 State Title


Yes, this is a logical thread, please fire this coach we can all hope to be suffering from this kind of success. This is the same kind of stuff I hear whenever I sit in the stands and hear the "RUN THE BALL" "THROW THE BALL" Dad's. :rolleyes:
 
CMorris_99 said:
I know. I’ve heard the same thing about coach domsitz. Seems silly to me. Both mcsurley and domsitz are great coaches with multiple state championships. Both are loyal to their school because im sure they both could have left for bigger jobs. I would be willing to bet there are a lot of games that both of them wish they could have back but I bet both would say they wouldn’t change a thing about the way they run their programs. Obviously they still have a lot to offer and a passion for the game or they wouldn’t be there.
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Just a little history, Domsitz is in his second stint at Alter. he did leave previously for Northmont finishing with a 53-55 record there before returning to Alter in the late 90's. So, I guess you could say he did leave for a bigger job, but found his way back. Coach Domsitz will also throw the ball when his personnel dictates it. Malik Zaire and Austin Boucher both finished just shy of 2,000 yards passing in their senior seasons. All that being said, you're right many of the criticisms are the same.
 
kyles_mom said:
From their league website, Massie had 11 passing TD's on 44 pass attempts this season. Does that qualify as a little bit?
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They play a weak league. The only time they throw is when they are playing weak opponents. Until they fix than situation they will continue to fall short in the postseason.
 
The only change CM really needs is to open up the playbook more. I think they can still win running the ball 100%, but their QBs need to also be comfortable throwing the ball when it comes to crunch time and they need big plays. Other than that CM needs no change, before McSurely got their CM was pretty bad. Firing him would be insane. He will leave coaching when he's ready.

Also yes the SBAAC American as a whole isn't the best, but the schools in that league (Batavia and Wilmington especially) are getting better. CM really has no other option for a new league if they do decide to leave. Also CM is a great fit in the SBAAC in almost every other sport. Them and Wilmington leaving the SBAAC for say the SWBL would be a really bad move imo, and while I use to like that idea, I hate it now. As long as CM continues to play a difficult non conference schedule I think they will be more than ready come playoff time. Also, they had early exits in 2018 and 2019 as well and ended up winning state in 2021, I think they will be just fine.
 
1498Falcon said:
They play a weak league. The only time they throw is when they are playing weak opponents. Until they fix than situation they will continue to fall short in the postseason.
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Continue to fall short in the postseason? They won it all just three years ago! Three State Championships in the last 12 years including back to back titles is far from falling short. As someone stated earlier a majority of schools in Ohio will never see that type of success. Do you expect them to win a state championship every year?
 
1498Falcon said:
They play a weak league. The only time they throw is when they are playing weak opponents. Until they fix than situation they will continue to fall short in the postseason.
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Outside of Kirtland and ML, Massie has had as much as if not more success than any other program across the state in the last 10-15 years. You have to be a disgruntled parent or something. This might be the worst take on Yappi and that is saying something...................
 
From what I've been hearing the last thing people should be concerned about is football. The entire district is in the ditch and football is the only thing that is positive right now. Weird community.
 
covidsucks said:
From what I've been hearing the last thing people should be concerned about is football. The entire district is in the ditch and football is the only thing that is positive right now. Weird community.
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Unfortunately, their latest levy went down earlier this month. It's failed a couple of times now, but they were able to raise the funds to fix the stadium turf earlier this year.
 
BeaverAchiever said:
Unfortunately, their latest levy went down earlier this month. It's failed a couple of times now, but they were able to raise the funds to fix the stadium turf earlier this year.
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If I remember correctly earlier this year I thought that the district was trying to save funds and they were going to cut McSurelys teaching position, but they were going to work around it and keep him as the Head football coach, which they obviously have done, but there was a lot of buzz that McSurely might resign back then. I wonder what’s going on financially at CM. Whatever it is can not be good.
 
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