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Did the two players really get kicked off the team for carrying the flags on 9/11?
Did the two players really get kicked off the team for carrying the flags on 9/11?
Football players suspended from team for carrying Thin Blue, Thin Red lines flags at game
MORROW, Ohio (WKRC) — Some local high school football players are finding that their support for first responders is coming at a huge cost. The boys are now suspended from their team after not heeding a warning to leave the Thin Blue Line and Thin Red Line flags that represent fallen...local12.com
It appears the primary crux is the students had asked permission to carry them, they were told “no” and did it anyways.
I think on 9/11 of all days, the boys should have absolutely been allowed to run out with those flags. However they were told not to by the administration and did it anyways. For that they should face consequences.
I think most people can agree that a suspension is pretty outsized for what was done, and that LM isn’t handling this that well. It probably would’ve been best for LM to let them run onto the field with the flags, and note that it was a students’ request related to a particular event with the district deciding for themselves if they endorse/don’t endorse the flags.And we see who the communities siding with. Superintendent probably should've thought this through a little better.
This really is a case of (likely) well-meaning administration officials not having any consciousness or expedience on how to handle expression topics as it relates to messaging viewed to be ‘polarizing.’
It was a tradition to specifically honor FDNY and NYPD, not making 9/11 a reason to carry “the Thin Blue Line.“It's disheartening to see a well paid administrator make such a stupid decision. First not letting the kids carry the flag out was wrong. Honoring police & firefighters around 9/11 has become a tradition. What the hell has happened to change that?
...you’re who brought it up? LOLAnd don' tell me "George Floyd" the two are not and should not be related.
It was a tradition to specifically honor FDNY and NYPD, not making 9/11 a reason to carry “the Thin Blue Line.“
...you’re who brought it up? LOL
I think of this like an HOA. Recently someone put a bunch of signs up saying thanks to the local police department in my HOA. Many of us called and stated that if we let these signs stay up...what next? It isn't the message but the long term consequences. Also many students these days just don't listen to authority and I'm glad the administration put their foot down.
Football players suspended from team for carrying Thin Blue, Thin Red lines flags at game
MORROW, Ohio (WKRC) — Some local high school football players are finding that their support for first responders is coming at a huge cost. The boys are now suspended from their team after not heeding a warning to leave the Thin Blue Line and Thin Red Line flags that represent fallen...local12.com
It appears the primary crux is the students had asked permission to carry them, they were told “no” and did it anyways.
The school has to protect itself from chaos. Allowing these students to bring in flags would have opened the door for people of all different interests to bring in flags for organizations that they support. The easiest way to manage it is to just limit it to the american flag and the school flags. Sounds like the school took this step and even informed the young men that they were not to bring the flags but they did it anyway, thus there are consequences. Not sure what the actual penalty was but they made a choice and our choices have consequences. Hopefully the consequences are not too harsh.This sounds a little similar to Chardon. Although I cant remember what punishment, if any, that the Chardon players received. But you gotta look at the bigger picture IMO. What if the team decided to bring out a gay pride flag on the anniversary of the Pulse nightclub shooting? Would everybody be ok with that? How about an African red, black and green flag during the national anthem on MLK Day? All senseless tragedies with innocent victims. But if you do for one you gotta do for all. That's why these administrators dont want to open that door.
The school has to protect itself from chaos. Allowing these students to bring in flags would have opened the door for people of all different interests to bring in flags for organizations that they support. The easiest way to manage it is to just limit it to the american flag and the school flags. Sounds like the school took this step and even informed the young men that they were not to bring the flags but they did it anyway, thus there are consequences. Not sure what the actual penalty was but they made a choice and our choices have consequences. Hopefully the consequences are not too harsh.
Sure seems like, from the article, they are limiting any flags that could be considered to create issues or divisiveness. Rather than pick and choose what is allowed they just said no to all flags that aren't school based. If this is not the case, then this situation gets very hairy, very quickly. Let's be honest, school admin are going to say no because they don't want to deal with the phone calls and complaints about allowing it.
Now, they deserve a punishment but kicked off the team or a season long suspension seems excessive.
This sounds a little similar to Chardon. Although I cant remember what punishment, if any, that the Chardon players received. But you gotta look at the bigger picture IMO. What if the team decided to bring out a gay pride flag on the anniversary of the Pulse nightclub shooting? Would everybody be ok with that? How about an African red, black and green flag during the national anthem on MLK Day? All senseless tragedies with innocent victims. But if you do for one you gotta do for all. That's why these administrators dont want to open that door.
I live in the district and the administration is getting dragged across the various neighborhood groups on social media. Some calling for the superintendent's job. Some calling for others to vote NO on the levy in November (it is a crucial levy, too).
Look, Little Miami has to take the action they did. There are plenty of legal outcomes involving school districts, including Supreme Court cases, that were ruled a certain way because a precedent was already set. Very few people in this community seem to understand that. They interpret the punishment as an anti-police and firefighters stance. It's a pretty conservative community, so... you can imagine.
I've followed college football and basketball closely enough to read about plenty of "indefinite suspensions". I haven't seen a news source confirm it, but the discussion is saying they are suspended from the team and not school. Honestly, the punishment sounds like CYA window dressing. There absolutely would come a point where if the suspension isn't lifted, it becomes excessive. IMO, anything more than one game is way too much.