Impeachment hearings not going well for Trump

gneiss rocks

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This whole thing is a joke ran by the corrupt liberals and the fake media. Its a bunch of the every kid gets a trophy generation that can't handle that fact Trump won the election. They have been trying to impeach Trump since day one. For all you democrats out there, what have the democrats in office done for you lately? Is the country not doing better now than when Obama was President. This is nothing but a sham ran by a lying crook named Adam Schiff. Grow up and move on, its almost 2020.
Trump is draining the swamp and this is just a bunch of disgusting slimy creatures flopping around in the mud due to loss of habitat... of course they are disgruntled.
 

cabezadecaballo

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First, you don’t need first hand knowledge. Circumstantial evidence conflicts plenty of criminals. Second, even though the White House is blocking many with first hand knowledge, there are several witnesses next week that are ignoring the block and will testify who spoke directly with Trump or heard him directly. That excuse will be moot when that happens.
In order to actually get the Senators on board in adequate numbers ? You could not be more wrong.
 

gneiss rocks

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Whatever the case, he IS under attack, he IS getting treated unfairly by most of the media, and he IS coming out on top over and over with most people.
This is why Yovanovitch was fired, turning a blind eye to media and Ukrainian election melding. She is part of the coup attempt.
Watching Jordan expose these rats is awesome. Great comeback to Schiff...

 

Indiandad

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First, you don’t need first hand knowledge. Circumstantial evidence conflicts plenty of criminals. Second, even though the White House is blocking many with first hand knowledge, there are several witnesses next week that are ignoring the block and will testify who spoke directly with Trump or heard him directly. That excuse will be moot when that happens.
The left has lost its damn mind!

We don't need actual evidence.... Rumors are good enough for a conviction!

Loonies!
 

gneiss rocks

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First, you don’t need first hand knowledge. Circumstantial evidence conflicts plenty of criminals. Second, even though the White House is blocking many with first hand knowledge, there are several witnesses next week that are ignoring the block and will testify who spoke directly with Trump or heard him directly. That excuse will be moot when that happens.
That is just dumb.
This is the President and the will of the people of our country we are talking about!
90% of DC and 95% of the media is against Trump...you would think they could find a first hand turncoat.
Why hide the whistle-blower and lie about knowing him when you coached him?
Think logically.
Almost all that have first hand knowledge are not allowed to testify???
Why would they change the rules and norms to let Adam Schiff be the only person who can approve his hand picked witnesses to testify?
Meanwhile in the real world Trump is being the most transparent president ever, releasing the transcripts and blowing away the lies.
 

ProV1

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That is just dumb.
This is the President and the will of the people of our country we are talking about!
90% of DC and 95% of the media is against Trump...you would think they could find a first hand turncoat.
Why hide the whistle-blower and lie about knowing him when you coached him?
Think logically.
Almost all that have first hand knowledge are not allowed to testify???
Why would they change the rules and norms to let Adam Schiff be the only person who can approve his hand picked witnesses to testify?
Meanwhile in the real world Trump is being the most transparent president ever, releasing the transcripts and blowing away the lies.
Now that is funny. Most transparent president yet? Both were transcripts were incomplete and/or omitted content. More important, the White House has refused every subpoena for documents and tried to block every witness. The only reason there are any witnesses, is because they have defied the White House.
 

Indiandad

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Now that is funny. Most transparent president yet? Both were transcripts were incomplete and/or omitted content. More important, the White House has refused every subpoena for documents and tried to block every witness. The only reason there are any witnesses, is because they have defied the White House.
They aren't witnesses. They haven't witnessed anything. They are rumor mongers.
 

ProV1

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So Trump is definitely impeached this time?
I think it is fairly certain that he will be impeached in the House. The Senate will either not take it up or if they do, they will fall short of 67 votes needed for conviction.
 

Irwin20

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I think these guys get fired up by the Sunday morning news shows and their
Slanted takes. How often have they jumped the shark? Prov is likely correct House will impeach, they were going to without a minute of hearings. When IG and Barr investigation are released the pendulum will swing the other way. It’s still a long way from Nov 2020.
 

zeeman

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It’s all desperation as RBG is failing fast, no other reason to shoot their wad so far before the election. The funny thing is if they are successful how conservative will Pence be when picking for SCOTUS?
 

Gulliotine

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It’s all desperation as RBG is failing fast, no other reason to shoot their wad so far before the election. The funny thing is if they are successful how conservative will Pence be when picking for SCOTUS?
Word from the Moonbats this morning is that Pence and his cadre are never-trumpers.

Expect the President to fire them.
 

Happygoluckky

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Does not appear Sondland is willing to go down with the ship...he is leaking to WSJ

Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the EU, briefed senior administration officials on efforts to get Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden ahead of President Trump's July 25 call with the Ukrainian leader, the Wall Street Journal reports.
Why it matters: Emails allegedly sent by Sondland that were obtained by the WSJ indicate that several other officials can confirm what some witnesses have testified to already about a Trump administration request to investigate Burisma, a gas company with ties to Biden's son.
  • Sondland will be a key witness at this week's impeachment hearings as he previously testified that he told a top Ukraine official that military aid to the country wouldn't be released until officials agreed to investigate Burisma.
What's new: Per the WSJ, Sondland kept officials including acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and Energy Secretary Rick Perry informed via email of developments in the push to get Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce an investigation into the Bidens.
What's next: Axios' Alayna Treene notes that Republicans plan to say Sondland "only talked to the president a handful of times about Ukraine, and he was eager to please Trump."
  • "They'll also focus on the idea that Sondland's knowledge was 'presumed' and the president never directly linked the two," Treene writes.
Go deeper: Trump-Ukraine scandal: All the key players, dates and documents

 

ProV1

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Does not appear Sondland is willing to go down with the ship...he is leaking to WSJ

Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the EU, briefed senior administration officials on efforts to get Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden ahead of President Trump's July 25 call with the Ukrainian leader, the Wall Street Journal reports.
Why it matters: Emails allegedly sent by Sondland that were obtained by the WSJ indicate that several other officials can confirm what some witnesses have testified to already about a Trump administration request to investigate Burisma, a gas company with ties to Biden's son.
  • Sondland will be a key witness at this week's impeachment hearings as he previously testified that he told a top Ukraine official that military aid to the country wouldn't be released until officials agreed to investigate Burisma.
What's new: Per the WSJ, Sondland kept officials including acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and Energy Secretary Rick Perry informed via email of developments in the push to get Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce an investigation into the Bidens.
What's next: Axios' Alayna Treene notes that Republicans plan to say Sondland "only talked to the president a handful of times about Ukraine, and he was eager to please Trump."
  • "They'll also focus on the idea that Sondland's knowledge was 'presumed' and the president never directly linked the two," Treene writes.
Go deeper: Trump-Ukraine scandal: All the key players, dates and documents

The defense will shift from “hearsay”and no direct evidence to Sondland doesn’t know what he is talking about. The criticism of him will continually escalate until he is labeled a deep stater who Trump does not know.
 
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