You want the state final to be against Perry who you guys have dominated now 17-2?
It's called a level playing field, PERIOD!
You want the state final to be against Perry who you guys have dominated now 17-2?
What is the most over used word by Massillon posters on yappi?
Really missed the point. What will it take to be competitive with theses teams? Are they having a hard time filling a schedule and should they be placed in a different division?
Again, coming from someone who has watched their team get clearly out matched? Massillon should be be D1
Why can other public schools beat the all star teams to win titles and Massillon can't?I guess you don't understand hypocrisy. Posters who follow teams that openly recruit, attacking others as if they don't. Don't let me stop you from attacking my posts and ignoring the facts.
After six state finals losses, isn't it clear what it will take to win a state championship and should changes be made, to put these teams, in a different division?
The physical discrepancy is so great that teams aren't beat, they are physically beat up.
Yet, most posters ignore what these teams do to completive balance and only marvel at their talent and performance!
As I said other public schools can win in many sports against these all star teams, yet Massillon can't do it in the only sport they focus on.Try focusing on the REAL problem and how some schools have played the rules, to draw from multiple states and counties and what that has done to competitive balance.
No, it's easier to attack Massillon's playoff record, in a weak attempt to destroy their tradition and state championships!
Ok DB, I get your frustration. Not so long ago I watched Perry drop to a loaded LaSalle team in 15 & 16. Yappi is definitely for the rabid nutcases like us! We made it in 15 with only 2 D1 prospects! In 16 only one was left. I would froth at the mouth with what you guys have had the last few years! I most definitely feel your pain brother! Hope for the best, good luck next year! On a side note, is #25 interested in running the rock more? LolMassillon has upgraded their schedule to be competitive in the playoffs with the all-star teams in DII!
What is the typical response when you can't deal with the truth and attack the messenger, instead?
I view it as almost like a cult. It permeates the town.They live in a bubble, they can't see the whole picture,
The truth is Massillon lost last night. Perry and North Canton have nothing to do with that.
Wow, talk about delusions. Massillon is 2-2 vs Hoban & Lasalle the past 2 years, I'd say that's pretty damn good. Did you whine about winning those 2 games? You do realize Massillon runs their football program just like a strong private school program, right? I have no problem with it, I think kids should be able to go to school wherever they want & have the opportunity. But don't play the poor us card, Massillon has more resources & better facilities than just about anybody in OH, and they use them to build their roster the same way any other private does. That's the world & philosophy Moore came from. Did the Chardon folks start a thread tonight about all the advantages Desales has on them? Oh, that's right, they beat Desales. The whining is tired, and nobody cares, especially from a program that has what Massillon has.Try focusing on the REAL problem and how some schools have played the rules, to draw from multiple states and counties and what that has done to competitive balance.
No, it's easier to attack Massillon's playoff record, in a weak attempt to destroy their tradition and state championships!
Solid pointWow, talk about delusions. Massillon is 2-2 vs Hoban & Lasalle the past 2 years, I'd say that's pretty damn good. Did you whine about winning those 2 games? You do realize Massillon runs their football program just like a strong private school program, right? I have no problem with it, I think kids should be able to go to school wherever they want & have the opportunity. But don't play the poor us card, Massillon has more resources & better facilities than just about anybody in OH, and they use them to build their roster the same way any other private does. That's the world & philosophy Moore came from. Did the Chardon folks start a thread tonight about all the advantages Desales has on them? Oh, that's right, they beat Desales. The whining is tired, and nobody cares, especially from a program that has what Massillon has.
Hey Gris, I don't think anyone in this particular thread has called for a separation. So many variables here, which way to go? I will go in this direction, if they pulled out of the OHSAA then what? Travel nationwide to play? IMO maybe the CB numbers need to be adjusted? Massillon, Hoban and LaSalle are clearly the big dogs of D2 as of the last 3 years, (Hoban & LaSalle the last 6) Take those 3 away then you are left with maybe the 2 Avon teams a possible Hudson team and maybe a Perry/Hoover team ( probably many more I just am not familiar with them). In 2017 Perry to the best of my knowledge was the largest D2 school and CB bumped them up to D1 that year, they paid the piper, 1 and done. I'm thinking that CB needs adjusting because clearly something is out of whack. For whatever reason D2 is an enigma, D2 for the last 6 years has been thought to be the best in the state! Make it happen then, time to readjust the CB balance. Just my 2 cents worth ( No affiliation with the famous poster, Lol!)Here's a little secret. If you separate the privates they're likely to leave OHSAA. Outside of the OHSAA, they'll have no rules and it will be full open season on all Ohio high school athletes to the further detriment of the publics. They won't have to be shady about it or have kids sit five games. They'll be able to directly approach and recruit kids.
I'm not saying the system isn't broken but one needs to consider all the repercussions of the proposed solutions before jumping into one of them.
Hey Gris, I don't think anyone in this particular thread has called for a separation. So many variables here, which way to go? I will go in this direction, if they pulled out of the OHSAA then what? Travel nationwide to play? IMO maybe the CB numbers need to be adjusted? Massillon, Hoban and LaSalle are clearly the big dogs of D2 as of the last 3 years, (Hoban & LaSalle the last 6) Take those 3 away then you are left with maybe the 2 Avon teams a possible Hudson team and maybe a Perry/Hoover team ( probably many more I just am not familiar with them). In 2017 Perry to the best of my knowledge was the largest D2 school and CB bumped them up to D1 that year, they paid the piper, 1 and done. I'm thinking that CB needs adjusting because clearly something is out of whack. For whatever reason D2 is an enigma, D2 for the last 6 years has been thought to be the best in the state! Make it happen then, time to readjust the CB balance. Just my 2 cents worth ( No affiliation with the famous poster, Lol!)
What’s there schedule look like next year? Same as this year?Massillon has upgraded their schedule to be competitive in the playoffs with the all-star teams in DII!
I personally don't believe any rules are being broken.I may have misinterpreted DB's reference to a "different division" for these "All-Star" teams.
At this juncture, if there are to be changes it needs to start at OHSAA. I haven't seen any hard proof that any team is breaking or skirting the rules. That means that, if indeed there is a problem, the rules in place are not being enforced through adequate investigation or that the present rules are inadequate.
I CAN'T SEE VERY WELL. HARD FOR ME TO READ LOWER CASE. A PHYSICAL LIMITATION.stop shouting!
Since everyone else uses lower case and you already know what you're typing, there's no reason not to use the lower case.I CAN'T SEE VERY WELL. HARD FOR ME TO READ LOWER CASE. A PHYSICAL LIMITATION.
most over used would be TIG ?What is the most over used word by Massillon posters on yappi?
And band .... the band was great!!0-49...nice stadium and uniforms though.
Maybe every game with Massilon shoud be started 7-0 in Massillon's favor based on the quality of Massillon's band.And band .... the band was great!!