The 10 events listed since 2012 were murder using the AR-15. Address that. You want to cloud the issue, as I said earlier, with gang war stats. Address the crazies killing 20-30 people at a time with semi automatic weapons.
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Hammerdrill
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You can't get around the fact that all rifles kill very few people, even when you include the shootings you are referring to.
I read where only one shooter was brought down in the last 28 mass shooting by a guy carrying a weapon. Regardless, vigilantism isn’t the answer. We’re any of the shooters in those ten events criminals before they carried out their horrific crime?
Allsports12 where are you. There is some language on hear that needs moderating.
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Yeah, I would like semi automatic handguns outlawed also. That would put a dent in the type of violence that you continue to fixate on. But, it’s not gang bangers who are carrying out the events I listed. How about addressing just that. What’s your solution to that?
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You seem miserable. Take some time off. You seem to dish it out but can't handle it. Read a book for a while
MentorGrad2002
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Hard drugs are illegal. People still get them. School zones are gun free zones. Going by your stupid attempt at logic , that would deter criminals.
The criminals will still get any gun that you make illegal. You ignored this point repeatedly
Clearly you know nothing at all about guns. Just another gun grabber liberal talking about something he knows zero about. Whenever someone talks about an AR 15 being a big scary gun , you know it's just a pansy liberal going with news propaganda while knowing nothing about guns. My sister shot that gun hot pink ear protection and all at age 7 or 8....
The real issue here is mental health along with the politically correct and woke crowd who are giving all these future killers the leeway to build up to a mass shooting.
How many times do you have neighbors and students talking about warning signs with these school shooters after the fact ? They don't come forward for fear of being wrong and being called racist or prejudice or any other ism by the liberal crowd who make everything racist and dividing to get votes.
Improving mental health and getting people to come forward instead of being scared to do so because of the ism crowd would do a lot more than banning inanimate objects from law abiding citizens
The criminals will still get any gun that you make illegal. You ignored this point repeatedly
Clearly you know nothing at all about guns. Just another gun grabber liberal talking about something he knows zero about. Whenever someone talks about an AR 15 being a big scary gun , you know it's just a pansy liberal going with news propaganda while knowing nothing about guns. My sister shot that gun hot pink ear protection and all at age 7 or 8....
The real issue here is mental health along with the politically correct and woke crowd who are giving all these future killers the leeway to build up to a mass shooting.
How many times do you have neighbors and students talking about warning signs with these school shooters after the fact ? They don't come forward for fear of being wrong and being called racist or prejudice or any other ism by the liberal crowd who make everything racist and dividing to get votes.
Improving mental health and getting people to come forward instead of being scared to do so because of the ism crowd would do a lot more than banning inanimate objects from law abiding citizens
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zeeman
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Because you only listed the ones using AR15’s ? the Sandy Hook crazy could have used a hand gun with equal effect in that closed location. The Las Vegas one, you’re correct that the type of weapon used caused more deaths because it was from distance. I own all kinds of guns and have yet seen them go off by themselves ??
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The Vegas shooter uses an IED instead and more casualties happen.
https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing
Sand Hook shooter decides to use the Bath method. More children die
Bath Massacre
On May 18, 1927, the small town of Bath, Michigan, was forever changed when Andrew Kehoe set off a cache of explosives concealed in the basement of the local school. Thirty-eight children and six adults were dead, among them Kehoe, who had literally blown himself to bits by setting off a dynamite...
Then let include the Truck method
Terror Attack Kills 8 and Injures 11 in Manhattan (Published 2017)
Officials said a motorist drove a truck as many as 20 blocks down a bike path, striking pedestrians, before he jumped out and was shot by the police.
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Hammerdrill
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I don’t have a solution, but I can assure you taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens isn’t going to solve anything.
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BLM doesn't care about Black Lives. Period!
Yup...just give their money to another plantation owner.Donations are about to pick up.
Armed officers suggest Black Army lieutenant would face execution during traffic stop: Lawsuit
Footage shows the lieutenant tell the armed officers, "I'm honestly afraid to get out." One of them responded, "Yeah, you should be!"abc7.com
So why not support increased background checks specifically aimed at mental health and red flag laws? By the way your not talking to a liberal pansy, and only a true dumb$$ associates owning a gun with bravery.
y2h
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You obviously dont understand the intent of the 2nd Amendment.
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Your username is about to expire. Relax big fella
y2h
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So you were never a Boy Scout...always be prepared.
y2h
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Sounds like socialist Bernie SandersIt gets even worse
Report: Marxist Black Lives Matter Co-founder Bought Four Homes since 2016
Patrisse Khan-Cullors, a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement and a "trained Marxist," is reported to have bought four homes.www.breitbart.com
y2h
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You expose your ignorance on this topic quite often.
y2h
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There's a reason they call it ChiraqI'll take your list representing the last TEN YEARS and raise you what happened in 2020 in just Chicago:
Chicago Crime, Murder & Mayhem | Criminal Infographics | HeyJackass!
Illustrating the Chicago Values of Crime, Murder & Mayhem with comprehensive charts, precise graphs and exhaustive data sets of Chicago stupidity.heyjackass.com
For 2020:
Shot & Killed = 719
Shot & Wounded = 3455
Hell there are wars with less casualties.
y2h
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You are like the protesters who said just give us Chief Wahoo we'll leave the name Indians alone. You arent calling for handguns...yet. say you get rid of the big scary rifles and people are shooting up schools and grocery stores with handguns. Well then of course they'll have to go too. You do realize handguns are semi auto as well right?
As for fear, are you really that naive? There are bad people out there...including many in government. Look how this pandemic nonsense has dragged on, always a new excuse (the variants!) or impossible benchmark to justify maintaining control. Government is not your friend, that's the purpose of the Constitution to protect us from it....especially the 2nd Amendment.
MentorGrad2002
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Owning or not owning a gun has nothing to do with bravery. I can see by your posts overall that you are a liberal sissy. You also know nothing about guns and are just going with liberal propaganda on them.
Red flag laws don't work for most of these cases. Criminals don't care about them. Kids who are mentally unstable are often clean in terms of record and get them legally or steal them from someone else to do the crime. Red flag laws don't prevent any of that
This is the big boy board.... I'm sorry if I offended you by asking a question. Take my hand and I'll help you across the street.... Have a great day.
AllSports12
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Yes, my background has allowed me to experience first-hand, the phenomena of message board courage.
I'm a bit taken aback at your question, being that you have all those advanced degrees and 45 years of work experience..... but, because the answer will make you look like the fool that you have exhibited to be, I'll happily answer for you.....
About 7 1/2 years ago Yappi opened up a "Ask The Ref" thread in the football forum. After a short time, it became apparent that the person answering the questions was less than prepared to answer them correctly. At that point I offered my background tp Yappi and he granted me moderator status to monitor the four ATR threads he created (FB,BB GBK, BBK...... there's one in wrestling that was already established).
My condition for this was, I would only moderate those four threads. I gave him my word that I would not get involved in the moderation of any other thread on his board. The reason was simple.....I did not desire to be involved moderating his other topics. I already do that on a number of other boards and groups and simply don't want to take on any more.
Being a man of my word, in those 7 1/2 years, I have never gotten involved in a thread outside of the ATR threads and I'm not going to start now.
If you want to be a moderator, PM Yappi, I'm sure he'll take a serious look at your credentials.
Moral of story.....
Don't assume
I don’t call the ten most deadly mass shootings in the last 8-10 years ago cherry-picking. Trying to cloud the issue with hand gun violence is very disingenuous. The point is mass shootings. Not even a good try.
SayMyName
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And mass shootings can happen with hand guns, you seem to be flailing a bit....
I’ll bet you’re one of those referees who think they’re part of the show. You know the guys that think the fans come to watch them. I now understand your thought process.Yes, my background has allowed me to experience first-hand, the phenomena of message board courage.
I'm a bit taken aback at your question, being that you have all those advanced degrees and 45 years of work experience..... but, because the answer will make you look like the fool that you have exhibited to be, I'll happily answer for you.....
About 7 1/2 years ago Yappi opened up a "Ask The Ref" thread in the football forum. After a short time, it became apparent that the person answering the questions was less than prepared to answer them correctly. At that point I offered my background tp Yappi and he granted me moderator status to monitor the four ATR threads he created (FB,BB GBK, BBK...... there's one in wrestling that was already established).
My condition for this was, I would only moderate those four threads. I gave him my word that I would not get involved in the moderation of any other thread on his board. The reason was simple.....I did not desire to be involved moderating his other topics. I already do that on a number of other boards and groups and simply don't want to take on any more.
Being a man of my word, in those 7 1/2 years, I have never gotten involved in a thread outside of the ATR threads and I'm not going to start now.
If you want to be a moderator, PM Yappi, I'm sure he'll take a serious look at your credentials.
Moral of story.....
Don't assume
SayMyName
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Ouch, I bet he's reeling after that zinger....
Those listed weren’t with handguns were they? And they were the largest and most violent.
I’m not surprised that you wouldn’t understand. The high school basketball world is full of referees who are very impressed with themselves. He knows what I’m saying even if you don’t.
SayMyName
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Ok but more are killed with handguns annually than with other guns, so which are you going to continue to flail about?