Orin Swift
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TCU
Iām a certified Michigan hater but Iāll cheer for anyone over blatantly bad officiating.I still think Michigan comes back to win. Shouldāve taken point on the first drive then turn around and throw a pick 6. Sucks feeling like I should root for them lol.
If it were players I'd agree. Right now, the way I'm seeing it, it's coaching, play calls. He never had the ball but it's also 4 or 5 times I've seen the ball slip out of a michigan's player's hands.I still think Michigan comes back to win. Shouldāve taken point on the first drive then turn around and throw a pick 6. Sucks feeling like I should root for them lol.
Iām a certified Michigan hater but Iāll cheer for anyone over blatantly bad officiating.
Going to be tough to overcome that momentum shift of losing the touchdown then the ball, but itās still early.If it were players I'd agree. Right now, the way I'm seeing it, it's coaching, play calls.
YesWrong guy get the Heisman?
Not a chance.Wrong guy get the Heisman?
Ok, so here's my thoughts on the games tomorrow.
TCU over Michigan - yes, my premise is that Michigan And Ohio State simply are not that good. They were given high rankings early in the season and as we know, unless you lose, you don't drop. The big ten was horrendously trash this season, even worse than normal. Outside of the Ohio State game, Michigan's best win is at home vs. Penn State, who I've questioned all season. TCU has more quality wins than anyone in the country. The big 12 gets knocked for being weak, but that league is better top to bottom than the big ten, and it's not close.
Georgia over Ohio State - Part of me sees this as a 2015 Buckeye season, where they got an invite to the playoffs that I feel wasn't deserved, but they upset Alabama in the semis and won it all a week later. But Georgia's been so solid all year. Since the Buckeyes ripped Iowa in October, it's been a struggle for them, other than the Indiana game and they are just horrible. I just think while it may be close for a quarter, or possibly to half, Georgia's consistency and balance on both sides will prevail. Somehow, Stetson Bennett continues to get overlooked but all he does is win. Georgia's going to have to commit some turnovers for Ohio State to win this game.
Sorry, but your summary doesnāt match the events at all. You predicted blowouts, as if Michigan and Ohio State couldnāt hang. Both had chances to win in the end, so your narrative is false. The B1G, even with the two losses yesterday, looks strong this postseason. Underrated this year. The Big 12 looks bad, with TCU rescuing them from a total disaster and the SEC is having a mediocre bowl season, though they will probably have a team win another natty next week. So no mic drop. Now bows. Your analysis of the B1G isnāt even close.
We already agreed yesterday that you canāt judge a conference based on Bowl results. I mean, why even account for games where teams like UK and Oklahoma State are using new QBs because their big-time QBs are going pro or transferring? Itās a foolās errand.The B1G, even with the two losses yesterday, looks strong this postseason. Underrated this year.
I'll give you that with the Buckeyes/ Bulldogs game. But again let's look at this. Buckeyes were only a 7 point underdog, you see some of the rants from Buckeye nation yesterday the "everyone said we didn't belong" rhetoric....huh??? Almost all week, all I heard from Cowherd/ Klatt and the other 100's of "experts" is that the Buckeyes would likely make it a close game if not win.Sorry, but your summary doesnāt match the events at all. You predicted blowouts, as if Michigan and Ohio State couldnāt hang. Both had chances to win in the end, so your narrative is false. The B1G, even with the two losses yesterday, looks strong this postseason. Underrated this year. The Big 12 looks bad, with TCU rescuing them from a total disaster and the SEC is having a mediocre bowl season, though they will probably have a team win another natty next week. So no mic drop. Now bows. Your analysis of the B1G isnāt even close.
Kevin Warren going to the Bears wouldn't be a bad thing for the big ten.A day that began dreaming of the Big Ten having a pair of teams in the national title game ended with the league going empty handed. The league's focus goes from the anticipatory euphoria of the conference's first national title since 2014 to the leadership questions hovering over the league, with Commissioner Kevin Warren having interviewed to become the president of the Chicago Bears. It only took one minute into 2023 for the Big Ten's issues to be ushered to the forefront.
179 points, two epic playoff games and one great day of college football
Underdog TCU took down Michigan in a thriller, and Georgia survived Ohio State in an instant classic, making this the best set of CFP semifinal games yet.www.espn.com
So after Michigan beat Ohio State by 22 in the horseshoe you're going to put them in the playoff?? Based on what? Look, you have to make the events of the season account for something. Alabama may be one of the best 4, but they lost two games and you just can't put teams into playoffs because you "think" they are better. TCU is a scrappy, tough rugged team that has more top 25 wins than anyone else. Their ceiling isn't as high and I fully expect Georgia to win by 17-21 points next Monday, but TCU definitely belongs.The playoffs had four college football teams seeded 1 through 4. You know the list.
If I were to pick the best four teams in college football this year I would go with (alphabetically) Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State and Tennessee.
Sorry, never bought into TCU or the Big 12 this year. And no, not Michigan either. Thatās why it was so frustrating to watch OSU lose to them with the idiot DC playing the run like Eric Dickerson and Earl Campbell were in the backfield and making mediocre McCarthy look like Dan Fouts.
Iām not talking about the playoffs, or who should be in the playoffs. Iām just stating who I feel are the best four teams this season. TCU can change my mind next week, but so far I go with OSU and the three SEC teams.So after Michigan beat Ohio State by 22 in the horseshoe you're going to put them in the playoff?? Based on what? Look, you have to make the events of the season account for something. Alabama may be one of the best 4, but they lost two games and you just can't put teams into playoffs because you "think" they are better. TCU is a scrappy, tough rugged team that has more top 25 wins than anyone else. Their ceiling isn't as high and I fully expect Georgia to win by 17-21 points next Monday, but TCU definitely belongs.
The Will Levis that threw for under 100 yards and 3 picks against a terrible Tennessee pass defense...and who couldn't get off the bench competing against Sean Clifford at Penn State? That Will Levis? I'm sorry, but he's not very good and UK probably still loses. He might be the most overrated player in college football.Stop looking at the bowl season overall, most of the non-playoff schools have many key guys opt out - which I wholeheartedly disagree with - but it's the new reality. You really think Kentucky loses to Iowa with Will Levis at QB??? C'mon Man!
They arenāt. Nor is any team in the Big 10 West so it doesnāt really help their argument.We already agreed yesterday that you canāt judge a conference based on Bowl results. I mean, why even account for games where teams like UK and Oklahoma State are using new QBs because their big-time QBs are going pro or transferring? Itās a foolās errand.
Look at in-season results and itās a far less rosy picture for the Big Ten:
Big Ten West champ Purdue lost to Syracuse, who @Orin Swift has repeatedly said isnāt good.
Iowa lost to Big 12 doormat Iowa State.
Nebraska lost to Georgia Southern.
Michigan State got pounded by Washington.
Washington State humbled Wisconsin in Madison.
Northwestern lost to Duke, Miami (OH) and Southern Illinois.
Michigan played zero relevant non-conference opponents.
The positive side of the Big Ten ledger doesnāt go very far beyond Ohio State surviving against Notre Dame at home and Penn State destroying an Auburn team that was in disarray.
Itās more than fair to say the Big Ten was terrible this year once you get past the top two, and also itās fair to argue that the top two werenāt adequately challenged enough to put two Big Ten teams in the playoff.
Itās true, itās true. Trust me ā¦
No, Iām just tired of the lazy āthey lost to Marshallā crack and haters acting like Notre Dame isnāt a good team.
Itās true, itās true. Trust me ā¦
Not to mention Iowa also started a new QB. Both QBās were making their first start.The Will Levis that threw for under 100 yards and 3 picks against a terrible Tennessee pass defense...and who couldn't get off the bench competing against Sean Clifford at Penn State? That Will Levis? I'm sorry, but he's not very good and UK probably still loses. He might be the most overrated player in college football.
Someone always gets saddled with the Group of Five champion. I would have no interest in playing that opponent since thereās no juice to a game like that. I bet USC fans werenāt thrilled that their bowl game is a yawner vs. Tulane.USC gets Tulane. Lol.
The B10 draws fans so they usually get some unfairly tilted bowl match-ups (Purdue vs LSU for instance).
When was the last time OSU or UM played someone like Tulane in a bowl game. What a joke.
USC and LSU would have made a great match-up and Tulane and Purdue seem more fitting in my book.
A central commissioner should choose all the bowl matchups. No more Conference tie-ins with bowl games or having the bowl organizer sending out invites.I think bowl setup needs reexamined when new playoff starts