First off and most importantly, I certainly do not want to see what you have up your wazoo.
We are saying essentially the same thing but I am doing a poor job of communicating that. I am trying to say T&FN uses marks outside of the season that many others do not. Do they use the August 31st deadline for class records? Could a soph set a soph record in September? That's how I see this, outside of the designated parameters.
I see CC, indoor track, and outdoor track as seasons. Would you be okay with a CC record in April? I would not only because it is different in many ways, just as I would not be okay with the years the Ohio outdoor state meet held the PV indoor as an indoor record. I respect if someone sees it differently especially those keeping records. If the Lakota West coach sees this as a school record it is his perogative, but the next coach may strike it from the records. Everyone seems to bend things for their current athletes and maybe that is proper.
I also do not see how many schools are involved has anything to do with it. What is the cut-off? 8? 6? Can we throw in 3 11:00 kids to add schools? The difference to me is a time trial is done for no other reason than time. This time trial was not on a long standing schedule. It does not qualify for anything or win any championship. The pressure is off and athletes can concentrate on themselves and splits and might even be coaxing each other along. That is much different than a race especially a championship race.
I respect the record keepers decisions but for me this would be the end of CC season 3200 meter time trial record.
Touche' on the wazoo comment. I didn't see that one coming, so I enjoyed that
Regarding the marks set at this 3200m, technically while set in 2020, they would be listed as 2021 scholastic marks as they are clearly within the 2020-21 calendar school year. Exactly the same as indoor performances of the 2020-21 indoor t&f season set in December meets. No difference whatsoever. As was remarked, we are clearly in unique times, historically-speaking. Everybody has been scrambling for competitions this year, and fortunately, their efforts have been & should be rewarded. Tomorrow is guaranteed to no man or woman, so we have to live today as if it were the last. Also, performances would reflect the class to which kid belonged to at the time of the performance (school calendar year), not to the physical calendar year in question.
Regarding those rare occasions when the HJ & PV have been held within French Fieldhouse after being moved inside due to heavy outdoor rains @ the State meet, technically-speaking, they ARE indoor performances, regardless of whether they are associated with an outdoor meet. I had the same thing happen to me personally at the 1988 Miami U. decathlon in early April of '88. The pole vault portion of the decathlon had to be held inside of Millett Hall ( that was an experience! - the pits were up against the railing - mats were draped over the railing in case you drifted too far left
- reminded me of vaulting @ Welcome Stadium along the backstretch when it was up against the railing. ). Still part of an outdoor meet, but an indoor performance. I saw the same thing happen at the 1988 U.S. Olympic Trials decathlon - Day 1, the HJ was moved indoors due to heavy rains. Still part of an outdoor meet, but clearly an indoor performance. All statisticians worldwide adhere to this interpretation. Clearly you do not, but performances are not limited to artificial seasons, just to locale & legitimacy of the field & track surface in question.
My whole conversation is based around legitimacy of the performances as being done by U.S.-based, HS-aged athletes, not around whether OHSAA or any other state affiliation would recognize them or not. That is of no consequence to me as a statistician. I follow international guidelines for T&F statisticians almost to a "T", differing only in that HS tracks are almost invariably not certified venues, so issues of track/radius lengths, and levelness of surfaces are almost never measured or certified. I have, however, noted on Cincinnati-area based district records when performances in the shot/discus have been made at facilities with clearly downhill slopes in the landing area. This has happened, and those records are denoted with an "s" to note the sloped surfaces. Pete Miller of Hilliard was denied a national HS record in the discus back in 1967 when his 199' 10" performance was made on a facility with a downhill slope.
Anyway, OHSAA has their thing, and T&F statisticians & everyone else has their criteria-based standards, as you clearly noted.
Hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving.