2024 Cincinnati Area Open Jobs

Carl Rick said:
There are no other leagues for the GCL South.
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Currently, probably.

But conference alignment can change in the future. And even if they can't find a conference, they probably become more dominant as an independent. Will be interesting how LaSalle views all of this as they are the true outlier. The other three are fine competing in D1.
 
PikeCo23 said:
I disagree on the LaSalle job perception. I think its a great job right now. They are D3 and on the upper end of D3. They can compete and play tough competition all season long and then go and make a run in the D3 tournament.
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LaSalle is not a good job right now and that is the perception around a lot of coaching circles in the city
 
Doublehelix said:
Currently, probably.

But conference alignment can change in the future. And even if they can't find a conference, they probably become more dominant as an independent. Will be interesting how LaSalle views all of this as they are the true outlier. The other three are fine competing in D1.
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An Independent? No League Title to play for?
 
Doublehelix said:
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying it will be official this week when they refuse to move up to D1, because the daddy ball guys want trophies over competition. There's no way Elder should be in D2.
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ElderMackStud said:
We are getting off topic but Daddy ball or not, if the referendum passes this week, I have heard from Elder coaches that they plan to elect to play D1.

If LaSalle drops out of the conference, the remaining schools really should look to go to another conference. A 3 team league is just foolish - the all league teams are already watered down.
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Just asking why should they move up to D1? If all they have to go through is WW to get to a final 4 I'd take my chances there
 
cincinnatieng82 said:
Just asking why should they move up to D1? If all they have to go through is WW to get to a final 4 I'd take my chances there
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Because they are capable of competing at high level D1. They've been doing it for 100 years. I do agree they don't have the athletes anymore to compete at the highest of the highest levels, like St Eds - but they are more than capable of competing at the D1 level.

Teams should play where they are most competitive. They will dominate D2 until they reach the final handful of teams.
 
ElderMackStud said:
We are getting off topic but Daddy ball or not, if the referendum passes this week, I have heard from Elder coaches that they plan to elect to play D1.

If LaSalle drops out of the conference, the remaining schools really should look to go to another conference. A 3 team league is just foolish - the all league teams are already watered down.
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"All League" 2024 = "Everybody gets a trophy"..........See Basketball (4 Teams x 5 starters = 20 starters. Number of "All League = ?!)
 
Per the school's X page Hamilton will be looking for a coach to replace Kevin Higgins. Thanks @Bill Wennington for the assist!

Current Openings-------------------Previous Coach
CHCA -------------------------—------Scott Rooks/Ross Sferra (interim)
Madeira--------------------------------Rick Rockwell
Depaul Cristo Rey---------------------Brandon Elliott
Norwood------------------------------Jason Bose
LaSalle—————————————Pat Goedde
Hamilton-------------------------------Kevin Higgins

Filled:
Roger Bacon——————————-Mike Nozska
Talawanda-----------------------------Rodney Barrett
Clinton Massie------------------------Dustin Eads
Lynchburg-Clay-----------------------Kyle Pertuset
West Clermont------------------------Brandon Grammer
Middletown Christian-----------------Ryan Fairchild
 
bball15133 said:
Per the school's X page Hamilton will be looking for a coach to replace Kevin Higgins. Thanks @Bill Wennington for the assist!

Current Openings-------------------Previous Coach
CHCA -------------------------—------Scott Rooks/Ross Sferra (interim)
Madeira--------------------------------Rick Rockwell
Depaul Cristo Rey---------------------Brandon Elliott
Norwood------------------------------Jason Bose
LaSalle—————————————Pat Goedde
Hamilton-------------------------------Kevin Higgins

Filled:
Roger Bacon——————————-Mike Nozska
Talawanda-----------------------------Rodney Barrett
Clinton Massie------------------------Dustin Eads
Lynchburg-Clay-----------------------Kyle Pertuset
West Clermont------------------------Brandon Grammer
Middletown Christian-----------------Ryan Fairchild
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Filled:

Madeira - kellett
Norwood- not official, but look for Ty Cass
Lasalle - Higgins
 
Doublehelix said:
Because they are capable of competing at high level D1. They've been doing it for 100 years. I do agree they don't have the athletes anymore to compete at the highest of the highest levels, like St Eds - but they are more than capable of competing at the D1 level.

Teams should play where they are most competitive. They will dominate D2 until they reach the final handful of teams.
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Competing and contending for a state championship are two different things, they have a chance to compete for state title in D2 then they should do that, hopefully that'll attract the athletes like their competitors and then they can move up then
 
If CHCA landed Andrews and LaSalle Higgins then they came out better than many would have anticipated a week ago.
 
cincinnatieng82 said:
Competing and contending for a state championship are two different things, they have a chance to compete for state title in D2 then they should do that, hopefully that'll attract the athletes like their competitors and then they can move up then
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They have a chance to contend in D1 - it's just not a layup. These paths should be hard.

That's my point. Do you change just for the layup path to probably the final four in every major sport? I think you lose alot of interest that way because you're playing teams fans have zero interest in watching. Not that many people are going to care, outside of parents and entitled daddy ballers, about running through a bracket of teams that are very mediocre. It absolutely diminishes the feat, especially for a team that has had major success in D1 in pretty much every major sport.

They haven't competed at the highest of highs lately because they refuse to change, not because the kids got worse. They could 100% challenge for D1 titles with a few minor tweaks. But they won't, because those rosters spots are accounted for. Been saying it for 10+ years, and you can't come to any other conclusion than this. They don't want to evolve and get better, so they're moving down a division. That's weak as hell.

They have ALL OF THE tools and resources to make it happen. That's what drives me nuts.
 
Doublehelix said:
They have a chance to contend in D1 - it's just not a layup. These paths should be hard.

That's my point. Do you change just for the layup path to probably the final four in every major sport? I think you lose alot of interest that way because you're playing teams fans have zero interest in watching. Not that many people are going to care, outside of parents and entitled daddy ballers, about running through a bracket of teams that are very mediocre. It absolutely diminishes the feat, especially for a team that has had major success in D1 in pretty much every major sport.

They haven't competed at the highest of highs lately because they refuse to change, not because the kids got worse. They could 100% challenge for D1 titles with a few minor tweaks. But they won't, because those rosters spots are accounted for. Been saying it for 10+ years, and you can't come to any other conclusion than this. They don't want to evolve and get better, so they're moving down a division. That's weak as hell.

They have ALL OF THE tools and resources to make it happen. That's what drives me nuts.
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Understandable I don't know much about the others in the school but what I have seen is their best chance to win ad D1 level graduated the last two years and the classes coming behind are not close to the level of teams and athletes they had
 
cincinnatieng82 said:
Understandable I don't know much about the others in the school but what I have seen is their best chance to win ad D1 level graduated the last two years and the classes coming behind are not close to the level of teams and athletes they had
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You're right - the talent is way down. And it's because people have caught on to how they do things. Top talented basketball players don't seek out Elder because they know how controlled it is. It's literally almost 100% feeder kids from feeder programs from 3rd grade on, because all of the daddies control it that way. They hand pick the teams, and those are the kids that make the picked teams in 7th and 8th grade, and make the rosters when they get to Elder. It's been that way for 20+ years. All controlled by past players and their buddies. They NEVER open it up city-wide because they know it would mean half the team could lose their entitled spots.

Football gets some periodically, and kids know Elder football is a great program that will teach them alot. There's not nearly as much legacy entitled nonsense with the football program. Ramsey can't get away with that with the schedule he plays.
 
Doublehelix said:
They have a chance to contend in D1 - it's just not a layup. These paths should be hard.

That's my point. Do you change just for the layup path to probably the final four in every major sport? I think you lose alot of interest that way because you're playing teams fans have zero interest in watching. Not that many people are going to care, outside of parents and entitled daddy ballers, about running through a bracket of teams that are very mediocre. It absolutely diminishes the feat, especially for a team that has had major success in D1 in pretty much every major sport.

They haven't competed at the highest of highs lately because they refuse to change, not because the kids got worse. They could 100% challenge for D1 titles with a few minor tweaks. But they won't, because those rosters spots are accounted for. Been saying it for 10+ years, and you can't come to any other conclusion than this. They don't want to evolve and get better, so they're moving down a division. That's weak as hell.

They have ALL OF THE tools and resources to make it happen. That's what drives me nuts.
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Elder had some down years10-20 yrs ago and I would argue that changed when they started the little panther program. Seems like they have been ranked top ten in the state for like 8 straight years now, including a #1 ranking a couple years ago.
Elder also has had kids from 4-6 school districts with tons of deep talent on their roster almost every season, unlike most schools. Their basketball program, including the little panthers, is a model of success!
 
Bill Wennington said:
Can I pat myself on the back though?
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You sure can. You called it 1-2 weeks ago with conviction.

Wasn't all this "I heard from someone who heard from someone" - you can always tell who's really in the know. It's not the guys that whine about opponents and refs cheating and disruptive music during games. Those guys are just looking for drama and controversy.
 
cincinnatieng82 said:
LaSalle is not a good job right now and that is the perception around a lot of coaching circles in the city
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Interesting that folks on here seem to indicate LaSalle is not a good job and Hamilton is a good job.

Yet the Hamilton Coach jumps from a D1 GMC job to a DIII or DIV GCL job? Thoughts on why?
 
PURPLE REIGN said:
Interesting that folks on here seem to indicate LaSalle is not a good job and Hamilton is a good job.

Yet the Hamilton Coach jumps from a D1 GMC job to a DIII or DIV GCL job? Thoughts on why?
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His son will be an 8th grader next year and goes to private grade school. Don’t think he was ever going to send his son to Hamilton. Now he’ll get a chance to coach his son at LaSalle. I’m not saying one job is better than the other, but I’m sure his family situation was the major factor.
 
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