2023 St. Ignatius Football

Through 7 games:

Pts scored - 61
Pts. allowed - 217

No changes necessary?

FYI - J-V ( 4-2) : Pts scored - 94 Pts allowed - 109

Freshmen ( 5-2): Pts scored - 195 Pts. allowed - 96
 
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This team struggles to get 1st downs yet they come out in the same formations.

Defense is small and slow. Future is dark.
 
Pulling the seniors in favor of sophomores when the sophomores are actually worse is the most pathetic coaching decision I've seen. It says that they are trying to blame the struggles on talent when really this level of debacle is clearly coaching-related. Also, that message is one of defeat and will not give the team a good character in the future of the program. Chico had lost his edge towards the end as all legends do but this staff has none. They are bumbling idiots. I talked with one senior who said the team felt like the coaches quit on the team early in the season and since then there's been no effort by the team in practice and kids just don't care because the coaches don't care. The seniors have tried to motivate their teammates but once the coaches quit it was a disaster in the locker room. I think what we've seen on the field and the decisions to bench seniors and punt it away in must-have-it situations all year is a clear indicator of the poor level of leadership and the complete inability to motivate a team as well as an ignorance of how the game of football actually works. Franzinger may have been a good defensive coordinator but I think that's what he is. The head coach is a different animal and it's pretty clear he is not competent at it and if the coaches have quit that does not bode well for years to come. Without changes, this program will be trash for years no matter how much talent they have.
 
Yes the coaching has been awful. No argument there.

I don’t see all of this talent that others do, but yes this looks like what we can expect in the coming years.
 
I thought the game was at 4, so, I turned it on with 2 minutes left or so. I saw the score, and sadly, wasn't surprised. 7 points again? SEVEN?

Tell me again why we don't have a good chance to lose to Canada?
 
Pulling the seniors in favor of sophomores when the sophomores are actually worse is the most pathetic coaching decision I've seen. It says that they are trying to blame the struggles on talent when really this level of debacle is clearly coaching-related. Also, that message is one of defeat and will not give the team a good character in the future of the program. Chico had lost his edge towards the end as all legends do but this staff has none. They are bumbling idiots. I talked with one senior who said the team felt like the coaches quit on the team early in the season and since then there's been no effort by the team in practice and kids just don't care because the coaches don't care. The seniors have tried to motivate their teammates but once the coaches quit it was a disaster in the locker room. I think what we've seen on the field and the decisions to bench seniors and punt it away in must-have-it situations all year is a clear indicator of the poor level of leadership and the complete inability to motivate a team as well as an ignorance of how the game of football actually works. Franzinger may have been a good defensive coordinator but I think that's what he is. The head coach is a different animal and it's pretty clear he is not competent at it and if the coaches have quit that does not bode well for years to come. Without changes, this program will be trash for years no matter how much talent they have.
If the facts are true (I'm not saying they arent), it is damning
 
Yes the coaching has been awful. No argument there.

I don’t see all of this talent that others do, but yes this looks like what we can expect in the coming years.
They look small, slow and not athletic. I'm trying to think of a good parochial school football comparison from the past
 
47-7. The running tab is now : Pts scored 68.....Pts allowed 264.

Is there a realistic chance that they can break 100pts scored for the season? Just two games left.
 
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I thought the game was at 4, so, I turned it on with 2 minutes left or so. I saw the score, and sadly, wasn't surprised. 7 points again? SEVEN?

Tell me again why we don't have a good chance to lose to Canada?
If Football North plays as well as they've played against Eds so far they will beat Ignatius.
 
47-7. The running tab is now : Pts scored 68.....Pts allowed 264.

Is there a realistic chance that they can break 100pts scored for the season? Just two games left.
Very doubtful. I'm oddly hopeful that maybe 3 of the 1 win teams can win another to avoid a week 11 running clock
 
I would play no starters against Football North; it's just an exhibition, which means nothing. Some might say it wouldn't make a difference, that the playoffs will just be another loss. Or that the seniors deserve to play their last home game. Let the kids who never got as chance to play extensive game experience. The starters have had their chance.
 
I would play no starters against Football North; it's just an exhibition, which means nothing. Some might say it wouldn't make a difference, that the playoffs will just be another loss. Or that the seniors deserve to play their last home game. Let the kids who never got as chance to play extensive game experience. The starters have had their chance.
There was no reason to ever even schedule that game. Give them the option if they want to call it a year after next week. Sounds like they would just be fitting in if they call it a year on those who are supposed to lead and have clearly mailed it in. Let Normandy or someone take the beating week 11
 
I would play no starters against Football North; it's just an exhibition, which means nothing. Some might say it wouldn't make a difference, that the playoffs will just be another loss. Or that the seniors deserve to play their last home game. Let the kids who never got as chance to play extensive game experience. The starters have had their chance.

Not really an option with the youth movement you guys have made. You play your young starters as many live varsity game reps as you can.
 
Worst defeats in the 112 year history of St. Ignatius football include 7 games in excess of 45 point differentials, all prior to 1935. Now we've had three at 40 or more in the past season and a half.
 
Not really an option with the youth movement you guys have made. You play your young starters as many live varsity game reps as you can.
That's what will happen, but not what should happen. The youth has played all season. In an exhibition game ( which was totally unnecessary considering the pounding the players have taken all season with this schedule), let them sit and let those who have come to practice every day have their time. But, the starters will play, as you have suggested.
 
Doesn’t look like there has been a bit of progress, all season, youth movement or not.

And watching the QB run back and forth through the OC while the play clock winds down is maddening.
 
I would bet that the same coordinators return next year, unless one of them resigns.
Unfortunately, he won't resign. It is beginning to look like coaching incompetence. When 5 of last 6 weeks are 6, 0, 0, 7, 7, the finger points in the right place. It is not normal to be this terrible even with this bad of a record. That Fitch "competitive" game looks like a blip, unless that was the result that led to giving up.
 
My question wasn’t for your thoughts ,it was if you had a football player or an incredible wrestler. Would you allow them to choose St Ed’s?
Your an ignatius hawk. I know it wouldn’t change your views of returning. But if you had a son coming up that was incredible wrestler or football player. Would you consider it?
If he was incredible soccer or baseball or rugby player no need to consider. Ignatius is the right school for that. I never thought my son would go to St Ed’s but he loved football. And he wanted to try and see if he could compete at the highest level. I gave him other schools to choose from .
He chose Ed’s. And we are both happy he did.
I was willing to move districts to get him into a better football school. With better opportunities to win and compete. But it was easier to just pay then to move. So making that highschool decision is not easy. We do things for our children to give them the best opportunities. And right now St Ed’s is the best Catholic ,football ,wrestling program in northeast Ohio.
I can't speak for Wildcat97, but I infer from his response that he'd choose St. Ignatius over St. Edward, not for sports, but, for the Catholic education. As the father of a junior high student, I can see why. From what I've heard and read about St. Ed., they can't seem to decide if they're still a Catholic school. Their embrace of DEI, and apparent pride in that fact, is a huge red flag for someone who wants his son to receive a Catholic education. I know this is a topic for another forum, but if you're implementing DEI programs, you're, at the very least, doubting your ability to teach the Catholic faith. You can't have both perspectives; you need to pick one.

Yes, St. Ignatius has made the dubious decision to hire a VP of DEI. Why any Catholic high school would ever do that is a mystery to me. Fortunately, St. Ignatius appears to be focusing on the Welsh Academy, and they see that as "DEI" work. It's unfortunate they use "DEI" terminology instead of just stating that they're trying to give local kids from less affluent families an academic and values-related boost in order to increase their odds of success in an academically rigorous high school program. Fortunately, their DEI VP doesn't appear to have much influence over the high school - at least not yet. That's a very positive thing. Multiple parents of current students - with whom I've discussed this - didn't even know St. Ignatius has a DEI VP. However, once I told them, they weren't happy about it. Two of them said something like "well, that DEI stuff is everywhere, you just have to accept it and make sure you teach the right values at home." I disagree. There's no reason to accept that at a Catholic high school.

DEI's focus on immutable characteristics and groups is in direct conflict with Catholic teachings about treating every individual with dignity and respect. If St. Edward, or any other Catholic high school thinks having a DEI program is a selling point to Catholic families, they're sadly mistaken. Maybe some parents turn a blind eye to it because they think the other positives outweigh this one negative. I guess I take this more seriously than some other parents. At this point, it's doubtful my son will shadow at St. Ed. We already skipped the open house. I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars per year at a Catholic high school that actively undermines the very reasons we would choose a Catholic high school.
 
I can't speak for Wildcat97, but I infer from his response that he'd choose St. Ignatius over St. Edward, not for sports, but, for the Catholic education. As the father of a junior high student, I can see why. From what I've heard and read about St. Ed., they can't seem to decide if they're still a Catholic school. Their embrace of DEI, and apparent pride in that fact, is a huge red flag for someone who wants his son to receive a Catholic education. I know this is a topic for another forum, but if you're implementing DEI programs, you're, at the very least, doubting your ability to teach the Catholic faith. You can't have both perspectives; you need to pick one.

Yes, St. Ignatius has made the dubious decision to hire a VP of DEI. Why any Catholic high school would ever do that is a mystery to me. Fortunately, St. Ignatius appears to be focusing on the Welsh Academy, and they see that as "DEI" work. It's unfortunate they use "DEI" terminology instead of just stating that they're trying to give local kids from less affluent families an academic and values-related boost in order to increase their odds of success in an academically rigorous high school program. Fortunately, their DEI VP doesn't appear to have much influence over the high school - at least not yet. That's a very positive thing. Multiple parents of current students - with whom I've discussed this - didn't even know St. Ignatius has a DEI VP. However, once I told them, they weren't happy about it. Two of them said something like "well, that DEI stuff is everywhere, you just have to accept it and make sure you teach the right values at home." I disagree. There's no reason to accept that at a Catholic high school.

DEI's focus on immutable characteristics and groups is in direct conflict with Catholic teachings about treating every individual with dignity and respect. If St. Edward, or any other Catholic high school thinks having a DEI program is a selling point to Catholic families, they're sadly mistaken. Maybe some parents turn a blind eye to it because they think the other positives outweigh this one negative. I guess I take this more seriously than some other parents. At this point, it's doubtful my son will shadow at St. Ed. We already skipped the open house. I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars per year at a Catholic high school that actively undermines the very reasons we would choose a Catholic high school.

So, how about that Canadian team?
 
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